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  1. There has been a lot of discussion on metal detectors vs each other lately, and brands being discussed in less than positive ways. I wanted to get a gauge of just how popular certain brands really are in the big wide world with the general public not just hard core enthusiasts that tend to use forums, so the best way I could come up with that is not an "opinion" was to check out how many people like each particular brand on Facebook as an indication of how popular brands are, and how large their official users groups are. I know quite a few of the people here don't use Facebook so may find this information informative as it's something they may not see otherwise. To make it simple I just searched for the brand name, and am basing it on the search results which gives the Official group along with the first three private groups that show up under it on the search results. Starting with Garrett, one of the older players in the game. Garrett seems to be doing pretty well there, 39,000 people like their business and the non-official group second in the search with 27,000 members. Hardly small fry. Next up is Minelab and a result there surprised me, I'm not sure what Facebook uses to order the groups, be it the last one to get a post or who knows, but that's not overly the point, the point is the popularity of the actual companies in question and if something looked odd I searched for the product individually to make sure it wasn't missing anything important, the main point is the company popularity overall anyway, not individual models from each company. Minelab didn't show the Equinox in the search results so to keep it complete I've added that in from pressing the see all to show it up, I know it's something people would have some interest in seeing how it compares. There are many Equinox groups, but this seemed to be the top one. As you can see, 335,000 people like Minelab, the groups that show up surprised me with the CTX being there but not the Equinox, again I have no idea how Facebook chooses the order of the groups under the official group it displays. Interestingly with Minelab the VLF groups overall in numbers combined are far more popular overall than the PI/GPZ gold groups, it might be why Minelab stated in their annual report they were now trying to greatly increase their market share in the coin/jewellery type detectors over the coming years with new releases, a big market where they can gain numbers quickly. Next up, XP. I had to edit this one as the new Deus 2 group didn't show up in the search listing so I just found it manually and added it on the bottom to be more fair seeing it's their new hit product. Although XP overall only has 19,000 likes for the official company page the interesting thing is how quickly the XP Deus 2 Group gained numbers, 11k already, that's great going for a small amount of time, obviously a lot of interest in it. Next up is First Texas, this was a challenge as they go by so many sub-brands so I had to search for brands individually too. You'll note there are no private groups showing up for First Texas, just the main group with 1600 members and 8 posts a month. Quite a quiet group. Next was a direct search for Teknetics, very small numbers, the Eurotek Pro more popular than the T2 for members but only 10 posts a year vs 2 posts a week on the T2. The search for Fisher was a surprise, I expected to see some Gold Bug in there, and the F75 but zip, nada, nothing! The Fisher family whoever they are seem to almost be as popular as the detectors. The Impulse has rather large numbers considering it's very limited awkward release. And last but not least was Bounty Hunter, I guess no surprise they're their most popular brand being the cheapest and likely best selling detectors in their lineup. That's more like it, 3100 members and 4 posts a week, people are out there using Bounty Hunters. Getting to the less mainstream brands, my search for Rutus came up a disappointment, I really thought it would be more popular in the European region. Unfortunately for them Garrett takes the first position on their search, with Minelab coming third when I used "Rutus metal detectors" for the search term, with "Rutus" alone I found nothing to do with metal detectors. The Aussie QED has quite a good following, far more people following it than actual QED's exist. Now for Nokta Makro, I'm not sure why their official page doesn't say how many people like it, rather odd, maybe a setting they can disable? As I was so surprised not to see the Simplex mentioned I clicked the see it all to see what else pops up The numbers once again were far lower than I expected. I honestly though the Legend would be far higher than 2500 in one group and 1000 in another, when people from one group are likely to also be in the other, but even combined only approximately 3500 members compared to the XP Deus at 11,000. I honestly expected the other way around with the XP being far more expensive and what I assumed was a less popular brand, I was clearly wrong. Tesoro has quite the following with approx 2000 likes. According to their Facebook page they still exist as a business. šŸ™‚ If it wasn't for Bounty Hunter Tesoro are more popular than First Texas detectors. And last but not least another dead company Whites, I was surprised how popular they are/were as I'm a relatively new comer to detecting and didn't know much about their models. Garrett takes their top search position being the new owner I guess. I'll end it there, sorry if I forgot any brand someones interested in, I just did the main ones I could think of. I hope someone finds this interesting, I sure did. Based on these rudimentary results the list of popularity with Facebook users goes Minelab by a country mile. Garrett a distant second a few laps behind XP a lap or two behind Garrett Whites on XP's tail being carted around the track on a gurney by Garrett. Nokta and First Texas crossing the line near each other Tesoro a lap behind the First Texas designs but doing well seeing it died during the race. QED doing quite well for its market share but stumbling across the line second last Rutus at the back of the pack, hopefully picking up the pace on the next race. This is by no means a performance ranking, more of a general public brand name popularity ranking based upon Facebook searches.
  2. Hello all, I recently saw someone state that they didn't fully understand why they sometimes get the urge to buy a certain detector! And for one reason or another, fail to pull the trigger, or asking the question of why not! I, like many here, have questioned why i would want to purchase; and have purchased, what would "technically" be an "inferior" detector! If there is such a thing; they all find stuff!! I think the reason's are as numerous as one can imagine! So i won't bore everyone with what i think their reasons are! I can only speak for myself! Probably my number one driving factor are places like this forum, and other sources for research! Once you really start to get the "bug" for detecting, you begin to understand that it can go beyond just finding treasures! In fact, my reading, and quest for information, far exceeds my actual detecting hours! Of course, there are also "real life" reasons that prevent me from getting out there as often as i would like! But instead of that being a negative; and me being bitter about it! I funnel that energy into trying to soak up more knowledge to make my actual detecting hours more productive! Many here will understand this! So, for those thay are unclear what that has to do with buying older, or less advanced detectors, i will explain! Like many, i detected a few years when i was young! Stopped for a career, and family; among other reasons! And got back to it, a few years before my retirement five years ago! Not being involved for all those years, i went with a new detector; among others i researched at the time! Now fast forward to today! I'm much more knowledgeable than seven years ago; detecting and theory wise, but have barely scratched the surface! I own several detectors for various functions! Some overlapping each other a bit in operation! A few others are just for fun, or for something i feel i missed, in my absent years! Other's were too good a deal to pass up! And I could get a good return for, if i chose to! So, to summarize! In my opinion, the longer your in it, the wider range of technology, legends, varations, etc... you are likely to buy, and try, for no very practical reason! Cost not withstanding; as you advance in this hobby! Or as some jokingly refer to it as a "sickness ", or "obsession "! šŸ¤© šŸ‘šŸ‘
  3. I looked at my old photos from Laos and there is one with a metal detector in it - a UXO team clearing a village. Would anybody know what detector they have used?
  4. hi iam looking for one of these they are made by allied and the part number is L091 i cant find them on the website
  5. Sites not loading here and their forum seems to be gone.
  6. Air Metal Detectors, a machine that uses your cell phone as a passive remote, is now a reality. It has existed in prototype form for years now, but has finally entered production and now is in the hands of some backers. Backers of its Kickstarter campaign will be first in line, so it may be months before the general public can get our hands on one. Below are some photos of an unboxing. Instantly it reminds one of the XP Deus in many ways. It also functions similarly with the main hardware stuffed in the coil while your phone replaces the remote. This unit is around 7khz if I remember correctly, so it this model is neither selectable nor multifrequency, but the inventor has said he plans for his next machine to be multifrequency. This machine faced many hurdles before the inventor was finally happy with it. So it will be interesting when the first reviews pop up. What do you think of the concept?
  7. One of the things I like most about VLF's is their target ID's. I'm amazed with detectors being able to ID targets. Where I hunt I prefer to dig as few holes as possible so I heavily rely on Target ID's. My front yard is the most difficult place around my area for coin's to ID well, it has the EMI of my house nearby, the worst seems to come from my long range wireless router, I'm also abut 100 meters away from some high voltage power lines that carry power from the nearby windmills to the town. Once away from my front yard the results of this test do not change much, the ones that shine in this test are even better away from the EMI and the ones that struggle in this test while they do improve their overall performance ranking on Target ID's doesn't really change. What I've done with this video is tweaked the detectors the best I know how to handle the EMI with as high sensitivity that keeps them stable and gives their best hope of a good ID, some run fine maxed out in sensitivity while others needed high disc to operate. If I lowered the sensitivity anymore on the ones that are struggling with the EMI they would no longer detect the deeper of the two targets so I have to allow some EMI interference to get that deeper target. I've put white rocks on the grass where the two targets are located. The target on the left side is the deepest at about 8" while the right easier target is the same coin at about 6". They've been there around 2 years. Both are NZ $1 coins. 1 dollar coin specifications Alloy Diameter (mm) Weight (g) Edge thickness (mm) Edge treatment Aluminium-bronze 23 8.00 2.74 Intermittent milling Not all detectors are running equal coils, this is part of the equation of course on how well they perform. While the bigger coils get more depth and can accurately get ID's often better than the littler coils they do suffer more from EMI and also on the deeper target they're often more affected by the nail that is about 4" in front of the deeper of the two coins. The entire area of lawn is covered in roofing nails from when the roof was replaced some years ago. The roofers just throw nails down all over the place while removing the old roof. So this test wasn't to say some detectors are bad or good, it was just showing why I like certain detectors for hunting in my conditions around here, and why I think some excel over others in these conditions with the coils that I have for them. Each have the coil I find best out of the coils I own to suit this test. If I put smaller coils on some of the detectors they are unable to detect the deeper left target at all for example the 6" coil won't see the left target on the Nox at all. If I had to rank these detectors out of which will give me the best target ID's in the soils around here I would rank them as follows: #1 Vanquish so very close in performance to the CTX/Nox but just that tiny bit better as the Vanquish handles EMI the best. #2 Equinox / CTX 3030 are so close in performance I'd say they're about the same, although I have very limited CTX knowledge so far being very new to it. #3 Ace 300i (In this video it suffers the most from EMI but get it 100 meters away from my house and it shines with good depth and ID's ONLY with the Tornado coil giving it the #3 ranking) #4 Gold Bug Pro / Detech Ultimate combo, change back to any other coil I own and it's performance drops a bit. The AT Gold, and Teknetics T2 come in at the bottom, I'm not yet sure if the AT Gold is due to the smaller coil size or not, I only have that one coil for it, the T2 is a depth monster but it's ID's are poor by comparison I think, and the smaller coils on the Vanquish and Equinox easily give more accurate ID's on the shallower of the two targets than the AT Pro and even in the best conditions its ID's are nowhere near as accurate as some others when targets get deeper. Now please don't read into this in any way that I'm bagging out certain detectors or something, that's not my intention and while the T2 might be at the bottom perhaps in other conditions it might be on the top, I do not know. The AT Gold I only have the standard coil for so it's instantly at a disadvantage. What I'm doing is showing why I prefer the detectors that I do for the conditions I hunt in for my coin hunting where I rely on Target ID's for dig decisions. This video really shows why I like the Vanquish so much around here for coin hunts. I'm looking forward to learning more about the CTX it seems very promising and is doing well on silver coins in my local spots so far. Sorry for the Ace section, at 1:05 I switch to the deeper target, I was too close to the screen with the video so it is hard to tell when I switch targets, especially with the Ace giving similar ID performance on both targets. What stands out to me is I could tell a local person hunting in my area if they just wanted to find a bunch of coins and some rings or something without spending much money they could easily just buy a Vanquish or an Ace and do quite well, and not really be left miles behind over someone with something like a CTX, keeping in mind once you're away from my yard junk levels go down to next to nothing, iron junk is very rare in our parks and sports areas around here, with the main junk being bottle tops and pull tabs, and low value coins šŸ™‚ Obviously this changes for people with very high trash or different soils or whatever variable makes it invalid.
  8. It looks like C-Scope has something new on the Horizon. What I found interesting was that twice in the linked video they make a point of showing the coil in saltwater, the second shot shows it being moved quite vigorously apparently to emphasize resistance to fals-ing. Could this be a Multi-Freq or PI?
  9. This woman goes detecting in high heels šŸ™‚ The article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/31/style/metal-detectorists-ring-finders.html Below is a segment of the article so you can decide if you want to click on the link to read the rest People have been metal detecting since 1881, when Alexander Graham Bell invented a device to find the bullet lodged in President James Garfield. But it took several more decades for recreational metal detectors ā€” devices that resemble ā€œsort of a skillet on the end of a pole,ā€ as one newspaper put it in 1927 ā€” to develop a serious cult following. Now, that cult following is growing. Detector makers are reporting record sales. According to an annual report from one brand, Minelab, in 2020 the company sold 30 percent more detectors than the previous year, which had climbed 18 percent the year before that. And we are in a bit of a detectorist media moment. New York magazine is making listicles of the best metal detector models. Drew Barrymore is giving them away on her show. The teenage sketch comedian Parker James is wielding one before his six million TikTok followers. In England, Carey Mulligan is making it mainstream; on Nantucket, millennials are making it fashion; and in the gaming industry, a romantic thriller-meets-metal detecting video game will be released this summer.
  10. Hello everyone, I would like your opinion and comments about ā€œGolden Maskā€ metal detectors. They are made in Bulgaria, but I do not know something about their performance. How they are performed compared with some other brands, e.g., minelab, nokta, teknetics etc. Do you have any information or have you purchased that metal detector? Are they good or not? Would you buy that brand or not? Thanks.
  11. I put the batteries back in the old Mark 1 LTD, just to make a short demo video on this beautiful old machine. Hope ya like it! https://forums.tarsaccisales.com/forum/7/george-paynes-masterpiece-mark-1-ltd
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    Compass 1991 Full Line Catalog, 4.2 MB pdf file, 16 pages Compass Metal Detector Forum A generous file donation by Sven1 Contents: X100 Challenger XP Pro Plus XP Pro Scanner XP 350 Scanner Coin Scanner Gold Scanner Gold Scanner Pro Liberty 150 Liberty 50 Coin Hustler Two Box Locator P.S. 5 North American Gold Dredge
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    Compass 1982 Treasure Hunting Guide, 5.57 MB pdf file, 17 pages Compass Metal Detector Forum A generous file donation by Sven1 Contents: Coin Magnum Relic Magnum 7 Magnum 420 Magnum 320 Magnum 240 Judge 6 Judge 2 Automatic Compass 94B Compass 77B Coin Hustler II Coin Hustler I Pipe Seeker 5 Price List
  14. good. I think a colleague on this forum recently received an intronik. He has recorded some video testing on the air. I would like you to keep us informed about how the detector behaves in real search and if a depth test is possible?
  15. A friend offers me to buy him a bhid. 12 ", which he used once in his backyard, lost interest after using it and kept it for 5 years in the garage. It asks for $ 100, but after what I've been reading, I don't know if it will be a good deal. There are different opinions everywhere, shallow depth, floating coil, bad ground balance, bad discrimination, etc. Can anyone who has owned one give me an exact review of this detector? Something good that if I have been able to see is that there are countless coils that adapt to it, it would have to be modified but it would work.
  16. Hello to all in the name of research and other experimentations i bought a Golden Mask 4WD with 3 coils. I m not interested in any of the coils sold with the machine but i got my eyes on a 5" seems super sensitive ,i bought it from the Thames river,and hopefully it will bring me some goodies it is coming with charger ,wireless headphones and the superb telescopic stem and 2 covers(battery and control box) .Price including delivery Ā£320 hopefully if it doesnt fit my need it will be relisted on the bay of thieves..... Coils are 12" and 9" and a SEF 12"X10" Here is the video who made it click the buy it now button: RR
  17. Don't see any here in the states but looks like MARS has a dual frequency 16/48khz machine. Think it is just a selectable frequency. Curious if anyone here has tried one and what they sell for etc. http://en.marsmd.com/catalog/gaussmd/
  18. Hello all, I've always had this question in the back of my mind, but it seems to keep cropping up in various forms! So i thought that instead of trying to shoehorn this question into various threads, or categories! I would just ask in the broadest way possible! Examples only: How are the manufacturers addressing this subject? Is it just from a technology standpoint? Or is there a broader range of issues, like getting younger people into the sport? Or trying to reduce the many restrictions that have been created to limit detector use around the world! There are no wrong answers! Just stick to Steve's "Golden rules" in your responses! If nothing else, maybe the manufacturers will catch on to this idea; if they haven't already, and do more to promote the sport, and it's many benefits!! Thanks!!šŸ‘šŸ‘
  19. Looks like Kellyco is selling a new beginner machine. Anyone ever hear of them? https://strikerdetector.com/
  20. So after hunting at a Park my friend Greg and I went to a beach, first time with the Alter. Right away I was baffled by the amount of chatter. Changing freqs made minimal difference and I did find a couple of items at 4". The beach was fine sand with a very rock water line- low tide, loaded with iron trash. I realized the sensitivity was at 75, after lowering to 50 the chatter was mostly gone. I am looking for tips for beach settings from you experienced folks.
  21. Pic 1 Hair Thin Silver Unit From 12/13 Century. P Pic2 Lead Axe, 3 Silver Coins Oldest From 13 Century And Found Of A Day Silver Angular Brosh (but No Pin...)
  22. Hello all, new member here. I recently got a Rutus Alter 71 after using an AT Pro for the past couple yrs. After much research I chose this over the Nox 800 because I can't run with the crowd and after hearing an interview with the developer I was hooked. I wanted a change because my buddy was really cleaning up with his MX Sport and for me as a musician the AT Pro tones annoyed me, particularly the iron grunt gets tiresome. I will say the AT has been good to but the Alter is another level and I really like it. The sweet sounds and tweakability makes me feel connected to the machine just as a really good guitar seems to become an extension of the music making not just a thing in my hands. The Alter arrived the day after having shoulder surgery which gave a couple of days with the manual and online videos before I gave in an assembled it.The next day I had it in the backyard to get familiar with the menus and such, man oh man it was comfortable to swing and well balanced.I have been out about 5 times with it looking goofy with one arm in a sling but got comfortable with it very quickly and have been hitting finds much quicker and more often.I have a learning curve ahead of me but I feel that this machine is a good platform to learn skills I have been reading about and makes those techniques accessible. I have questions for anyone familiar with this detector- 1- any headphone recommendations? I am putting together a bluetooth setup but may get wired ones also. 2-I setup a discrimination pattern but it appears to be a global setting,can this be setup as a user program to be recalled ? Any other tips and guidance will be welcome, I really feel good about this detector. Rutus Alter 71 metal detector
  23. Picked this V5 up from a friend in the US. One of those brand detectors I had an eye on before folks in the US got wind of them. At the time they were the V3 version. Think I was the first to post about them before someone took interest in them and decided to bring them over. Which created lots of drama for a number of years before vanishing. When offered the V5, I did not hesitate, may not get another chance as they don't seem appear on the market. Was up for the challenge see if I can get this machine to perform. --------------------------------------------------------- Using the Bliss V5 with the 7x9 coil. Took it out to my favorite soccer field with a running track this morning. Got wet a bit. Knew they had a sprinkler system, never knew it actually worked. Found out it does. Every 20 minutes another three start up and the previous three shut down. They circle the field twice. So I set the Bliss up like my bench test. Did a manual ground balance, so easy took a minute, piece of cake. Guess a 10 turn GB pot won't be needed after all. Took all of about 40 minutes to get used to it. Stable, smooth....Have to say it felt like I used this detector for a long time. Just felt like all the beep and digs I have used wrapped up into one. Just a heck of a lot deeper!!! For the most part only had to adjust threshold a bit now and then, damp and dry dirt. And at one point had some EMI, not bad but, it was there. All I did was adjust the frequency up a bit and drop the Threshold a tiny bit. I was ready to dig a lot of trash and figuring my knee was going to pay for it later. Really surprised that I found very little trash, it was there, could hear. It was easy to tell the canslaw, iron, nails from coins just listening to the duration and sharpness of the target signal. Easy to size a target. Setting the Disc level and Disc depth at the particular setting and using the three position disc toggles, really worked great. Hunt in #3, if I get a a breakup signal, will check in #2, if it double blips or breaks up, really don't have to dig it. Will now dig if its a very tight signal break up, found it could be a very deep Can. clad coin. I do switch to #2 to take another look at the target, if the signal is good in #3 and good in #2, from what was dug today, its a good target. Appears that the disc target is kind of a notching, each # has a different target acceptance width to it. In a weird way, kind of reminds me how I used the DeepTech Vista X with the two disc controls, standard and alternate in conjunction with adjustable two tone disc control. Even thou the Blisstool V5 is a single tone detector, it does give a lot of target information. Pinpointing was a little iffy at first, using the Makro PulseDiver Pinpointer was needed to zoom in on the target. Later in the hunt, was able to pinpoint with the coil almost dead center on top of the target. The PulseDive pinpointer made locating the target even easier. Couple notes about the Bliss and the pinpointer, had to keep the coil far away from it. It would cause EMI. Did not make an attempt to change the PD frequency as I was too busy having fun. Second note, the headphones I was using pretty well muffled the audio from the PD. So it was switched to vibrate mode, found I really like that mode. Hunted for about 4.5 hours this morning. the sun was out, no wind, and temps approaching high 80's F degrees. Had to stop at that point. Dug only 3 pieces of foil, foil rejection was excellent, was thinking to myself, this was just like my Mirage Pi..... Dug some very deep 7" pull tabs and most of the coins came from the 7-8" depth. This is with the Gain set at minimum. Think only three coins came from depths less than 7" to about 4". The Bliss V5 from what I saw today is an excellent Canadian clad machine. Real happy with its performance, feel and balance. Thought about acquiring another Tesoro or possibly some deeper beep and dig, no longer looking. Think the Bliss covers about all my needs and then some as a beeper. Definitely a keeper. And having the 11" and 15" coils and lots more Gain if needed, should make for a great all around relic detector. Didn't find any $1 and $2 coins today, think I already found them all using previous detectors, wasn't expecting to find any. The Blisstool is now one of those obscure machines you rarely see or hear about these days, too bad so many that bought one sold them pretty early on. Some couldn't wrap their head around how the controls function and work. Then there are those that were able to, found they were excellent detectors with lots of potential and had excellent success with them. Looking forward to using the V5 much more.
  24. Has anyone ever heard of these and if so were/are they any good?? Iā€™m guessing it was a flash in the pan otherwise a good functioning low priced PI would still be around. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F143557955352
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