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  1. Steve, How is the XP Deus working for you? Is it really a worthwile addition for a CTX owner with small 6" smart coil for unmasking? I tried the Nokta Relic. I wanted to like it but too many false signals had me digging tons of trash. Some iron gives high signals even just 2 inches down in my dirt, out of the hole it goes low signal. I don't have time for that. Coins go into the upper nineties for target ID so a nail & coin look the same. I understand it's different in other States with milder soil. I finally bought a new CTX instead. These machines work here! I never seem to be able to get away from a Minelab. (Fisher has been good as well. Accurate target ID) -Don
  2. I just ordered my first Deus and a HF coil. So can you clarify. In the parks around town should I keep the freq lower or still take advantage of the higher freq? Seems from the videos I've seen so far the higher freq make non-ferrous jump out more. So will I ever need to use the lower freq at all? I understand I am gonna use the 80khz when prospecting for nuggets but have been curious about the benefits of using the lower freq still Forgive my newb questions.
  3. Steve here was kind enough to sell me his HF coil for Deus detector. I have been testing and using this coil detecting heavily since I have received. In a nutshell, this coil chews through iron like nothing I have seen. In a few sites, they are controlled with me only using detectors.. I didn't realize the quanitity of nonferous left in these patches after using other detectors and coil combinations. Now some of this nonferrous was junk left here, but still I didn't realize. Some thing about this coil,,now Deus has never been famed for great ID of targets. And overall this is still true, but with one exception. And that is when hunting in super heavy dense iron. The elliptical coil seems to give some pretty good info meter wise on targets for such a difficult site to detect. For instance, a person can take a Deus with 9" LF coil into a site heavy with nails, and here some of the targets tonally, a lot of these same targets when swept with HF coil, will give extraordinary clear tone and decent to good ID to boot ( I call it a a good average) when sweeping. This info could be used to cherry pick targets. Also worth noting, just based on nonferrous tone alone when sweeping a target in a site loaded with nails, user may think target is more solo sitting. I was shocked to see many targets with nails, some even BIG recovered with nonferrous finds. This coil purrs like a kitten unlike the LF coils for Deus. I have experienced extremely little to no interference while using this coil. 14 hours testing - 8 hours detecting thus far, EMI vulnerability has been checked in 15 different places. Some of these areas one might expect to get some moderate at least emi interference, so far this coil does nicely. This coil when in a heavily nail ridden site, IMO if hunted previously with other good performing in nails/iron detectors,,,using frequency 28.8khz really lets the Deus show its stuff here. As far as using the highest band freq 74khz I have used, it does run quiet, but time of use still limited. This coil when installed on Deus rod does make the detector want to roll over more when placed on ground recovering targets. With the coil left in detecting position. So the remote will possible get some ground contact if installed on rod while using. This coil may not be for everyone, no Vdi normalization allowed for freq used, so the Vdi scale is compressed on the higher end. Using 14khz band does spread out some, better than the other 2 higher bands. Maybe with some more use, I can share more info about this nice coil.
  4. It's a mere 114 degrees here in the Desert Southwest and I've got another bunged up knee. No stitches this time, just a bruise on the critical moving parts, but it gave me an opportunity to futz with my Deus conversion to the collapsible Golden Mask rod. The problem with the Deus HF coils is that the battery is stored in the rod tube, so you have a critical wire lead from the battery to the coil. Deus solved it by making the rod connection to the coil ears a hollow split design so that the battery wire runs straight up the rod with a curly wire section that acts like a spring to keep the wire under tension. The Golden Mask rod has a solid tip at the connection to the coil ears with no place to run the battery wire of the new Deus design. So, I got out the saw and the Dremel and started making some modifications. The first thing I had to do was cut off the Golden Mask solid connection tip that bolts to the coil ears. The tip is solid HD plastic that inserts into the carbon fiber hollow tube about 2 inches. So, I cut the carbon fiber above the insert so that I could reuse the insert. I then used the Dremel to cut a slotted path for the coil battery wire to run from the bottom of the coil ear connection insert with sufficient clearance for the wire to slide smoothly. The portion of the coil ear connection that inserts into the carbon fiber tube is more or less hollow, so I continued my wire path through the outer wall into the hollow section. That way, I could run the coil wire through the groove, then slide the wire inside the tip connection and when I re-inserted the tip section the whole mess is captured inside the tube, very close to the Deus type design. The battery pack fits squarely inside the 2nd segment of the Golden Mask collapsible tube with just enough tension to keep the wire sliding freely. I then put some black electrical tape around my grooved section to keep the wire firmly inside the groove. The only other thing was a rubber washer 5/16 X 3/4 from Lowe's hardware to shim up the coil ear connections for a tighter fit. What I end up with is a detector that weights less than 2 lbs, collapses to 24 inches and extends to a maximum of 51 inches. My goal has always been to make the Deus into a discriminating pinpointer to augment the Minelab 7000. Some of my Baja prospecting excursions have resulted in way too many deep holes to recover ferrous trash that falls off the turn of the century type drywashers the oldtimers used down there. At my age, it's all about conservation of energy. You can only dig so many 2 ft holes in 85 degree temps before your day is used up. If my new discriminating pinpointer can cut my digging time in half, I'll be thrilled. By way, I had the opportunity to compare the Deus side by side with the Gold Monster on undug targets in N. NV. I was certainly impressed with the GM target audio responses and its ability to quickly adjust to changing conditions. If I were starting out gold prospecting and could only afford VLF, I'd certainly make it the GM. I like my Deus as a supplement to my Z7000, but it is not a turn on and go machine. I think at the end of the day, GM users would cover more ground simply because it's so simple and target responses are unmistakable.
  5. Published on Aug 4, 2017 - Testing the new Deus HF elliptical coil against the Garrett AT Gold on a gold earring.
  6. http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/deus/548580-xp-deus-v4-1-beta-now-live.html
  7. This post here for folks interested in Xp Deus, new users of detector and anyone else desiring more information. Goal here is to make this more of a one stop shop for folks looking for information concerning Xp Deus. I highly encourage all to read the version 4.0 manual. It can be found online. A lot of Deus units received by folks may indeed have 3.x manuals provided with their units. After you use your new unit, go back reread portions of the manual. And again repeat this. It will take more than a few times to comprehend all. And some in field use and testing will go a long ways in understanding some of what is stated in manual. Deus is not a dead quiet running unit!!!! It will chirp, if used to detect. Don't be trying to get it not to chirp. Deus, the way it IDs targets is a break away from tradition here when compared to most other Vlf detectors. A person air testing their units, this air testing (as it relates to ID) don't paint true pic of how Deus actually works in the field. A lot of what Deus can do, how it will sound, how it will react,,,these tendencies can be mimicked a great deal with on top of the ground tests using nonferrous objects and item made of ferrous commonly found while detecting. Navigation of unit needs to be mastered. The only way to do this is to navigate, and peek around. Especially under the expert tabs. Mineralization meter. New users should heed the data this meter provides to user. It can and will affect some settings as far as performance. Ground balance User has options. KISS priinciple should be applied here. A pumping GB over clean ground to start off with. Understand the icons for pairing of devices as depicted on remote (if applicable) Understand the 2 boxes where ground phase data is supplied. Be mindful of silencer setting, this setting can be changed on its own, depending on selected reactvity setting chosen. Understand some audio volume while over deeper targets can be had with audio report levels 5 and higher. Deus disc layout is not your typical disc layout. If offers disc settings expressed in tenths with some settings. New users IMO should steer away from all metal modes of detector excluding the use of pinpoint function. Users should study the factory program settings depicted toward the rear of manual. Users should learn what the term Vdi normalization means, and by turning this feature off,,,know how both means affect detector readings, and find out any advantages by using one setting or the other. Understand Deus doesn't have a depth meter per SE,,,but does offer other means to judge depth (generally on coin sized objects). Understand the notch feature. It's use and affects is not exactly what a person would think, due to the way Deus IDs targets in the field. When asking others for Deus advice,,,you should provide you soil mineral levels generally found in your sites. Like refer to mineralization index meter readings as low scale, mid scale or 3/4 scale. Deus will behave differently here depending on what the index meter says. Users should learn how to marry their components themselves. Very good chance your deus detector will arrive with all components married to one another. Pay very close attention to proper charging instructions as far as how the charging clip is connected. I think this information above. Will get a person on their way. Here is link with summary of what version 4 brings. http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/xp-deus-version-4-features Here is link with actual Deus V4 users manual. http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/telechargement/Instruction manual/DEUS_V4_MANUAL_UK.pdf Now these links, when read and studied may cause some folks to asked some questions. By all means ask. With the talent of folks that visits and or post on this forum, you'll likely get an answer. Folks will notice the Deus Lite package. This is package without remote. Here is some info shedding light on the Deus Lite package. You may see this referred to as Starter Pack. Here is what you have access to via wireless headphone module. Factory program number selection Remember some of the slots will be blank--- due to no upload Disc Sensitivity Ground balance-- only manual-- no tracking or pumping like you would have with remote Frequency Number of tones,, to include pitch and full tones Sound volume Coil selection-- in case you have more than one coil So you can see from above,,,you won't have access to the following,, remote purchase allows the following settings changes Notch Tone break setting Tone freq setting Reactivity Silencer Ground notch Iron vol adjustment Auto ground tracking Pumping GB option Vdi normalization option Xy screen option Update version option,, or downgrade version option Tx power setting Freq shift Overload setting Pinpoint function All metal mode(s) selection I think this is most of what you miss with wireless headphone module use ONLY. Additional comments here. A person purchasing a Deus package without remote. They can use another person's remote and infact update their headphone module and coil. They can by using someone's remote, actually program their setup with programs that entail making changes to the settings outlined above. (Remote only viewable/adjustable settings) If a user does this, they will not have a way to actually view (or change) these settings, but the settings will be felt by user when detecting. So a person would need to write down their settings per slot number on remote to remember which settings apply. Here's a link with multiple videos talking about Deus. http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/category/videos-xp/deus/ MI-6 pinpointer users manual http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/local/Xpmda/Frontend/assets/docs/MI-6_Manual.pdf Xp classroom and skills center videos. http://www.xp-detectors.co.uk To conclude here. Deus with latest released High Frequency coils looks to have made the Deus a better gold nugget finder. So even though this post is in the coin and relic section, gold nugget hunters may find this info useful too.
  8. The new Deus HF elliptical coil has just slightly smaller dimensions than the 10" Gold Bug 2 coil. The Gold Bug 2 coil is solid and the Deus coil is an open web design. Even more important, the GB2 coil is a concentric as are all Gold Bug 2 coils. The Deus coil is a DD coil. This means the Deus has a more complex response on small shallow targets than the GB2 coil but the DD design may have advantages in more mineralized ground over the GB2 concentric coil.
  9. https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=249660 https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=2804506#post2804506
  10. Deus 9" hf and pinpointer first impressions I got my new Deus 9" hf coil and wireless pinpointer yesterday, thank you Rob everything was perfect and the delivery was right on time. Assembly and syncing everything went smoothly, I'd watched a couple of short utube videos on setup of the new coil the day before and it's a simple (intuitive) process anyway. I didn't think I was going to like the white color of the new coil, but now that I have it it looks fine and the coil cover is black, so OK. Now all my comparisons are against my experience with the 11" standard coil, that's how I bought my original package new from the dealer. The balance is now much improved, the two coils don't feel all that much different off the main shaft in your hand, but once it's out there the new coil is much lighter and feels great, it also looks tiny in comparison to the 11". The new coil completes the startup/EMI operations faster than the standard coil, at least the flashing light indicating completion of the operation seems to cycle in about 1/2 the time of my 11" coil. The little I've run the new hf coil in some parks I'm not at all disappointed in the performance, it's smooth and manageable in all frequencies and is less bothered by emi. In one area I was directly under some power lines at a school where my whites sst had been unusable and the 11" coil really struggled. Directly under the wires I did pick up some chatter, lowering the sensitivity (70) helped a lot and 10 feet away I had no problem with the emi. The depth I'm seeing seems about the same as the 11 standard, I'm picking up wheat cents and other deeply buried old clad I missed with the 11" and tiny pieces of aluminum fragments from bottle cap retainer seals. I'm still getting a feel for the target I'd numbers the 11" numbers jumped around so much they weren't very useful, these seem better more stable... the tones are also crisper and its easier to lock on to on a desirable target sound (I think anyway). Most of these things I expected to improve just by going to the smaller coil, the 11 will now be reserved for speciality hunting, beach and wide open areas. Pinpointing is very accurate both by the wiggle or pinpoint function. Speaking of the pinpointer it's easy to sync, doesn't false works perfect, very accurate tones (meaning the pitch setting), easy to adjust...I can hear it in my headphones, very nice lanyard and belt clip, it worked perfect, one time I did have to switch back to the pointer and then coil when the coil volume did not sync but the switch from pointer to coil is almost instantaneous and automatic when you press the pointer power button. I love this pointer and now could not part with it this is a must have for the Deus. I ran the coil over some tiny gold in my back yard, the Emi is really bad I have old power lines and transformers running directly across the rear of the property. I had no trouble hearing the tiny nug with the chatter from the electrical lines, I'm anxious to get up in the hills and try out the new coil next week in some trash areas in gold country and see how well it handles the iron and hot rocks. happy hunting, clark
  11. Yesterday I got my August issue of Lost treasure and here on page 44 was field test with a review by Andy on the V4.0 Deus. I'm sure Andy could have used more room to cover the Deus on what it has to offer. Time and space has control of what we do in life. I think Andy done a great job but I'll let you make your review of his review on the Deus. Chuck
  12. https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=2798220#post2798220
  13. 9"hf coil first beach detect...nice 95 id and 925 silver...
  14. has anyone played around with silencer much? Whenever I switch reactivity you know that the silencer changes with it and I usually then adjust silencer to 0 but I SHOULD try silencer where the reactivity says to... but I don't. Has anyone played around with it much to see what effects it has? thanks for all the great posts. gene
  15. I am getting a little impatient waiting for the Deus elipitical as summer starts and I find myself wanting to explore more with some discrimination while still being sensitive for tiny gold. By tiny I mean the small stuff I'm missing with the gpz, but big enough to see with my old man vision...not flakes I'd need tweezers to collect. I have the Deus with 11", so going down to a 9" coil would be great improvement in the feel of the detector, also I've been using it for a year now and am beginning to understand it a little. The reports on the 9" hf have been good as have the reports on the GM1000. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts as to how they might compair? Do I keep waiting with still no firm release date? Is it technical issues or marketing strategy delaying the release? I'm planning a drive to Colorado the end of next month and was going to bring the Deus with a hf coil, now I'm beginning to wonder if I wouldn't be better off with the GM?
  16. I've been bored on my dog sitting endeavor, so I've studied up on the Deus, and looked at a history of used sales. At least in the near term, it doesn't look like the Deus will be available in a strictly High Frequency model. So you're stuck buying the whole kit and then adding the HF coil. Retail for the whole kit is $1520.00 and then another $400.00 for the HF coil. The $1520.00 kit includes the wireless backphones and the main controller. The "puck" on the backphones can be removed and used as a standalone controller, albeit without the "expert" menus. Personally, I see no need for the backphones, the main wireless controller is really all you need and has all the "expert" menus. I've looked at buying the components individually, but you still end up paying dearly. The controller retails for $800.00, used ones on Ebay are roughly $500.00. The original (non HF) black 9" coil, retails for close to $500.00, used ones sell in the range of $300.00. The backphones retail for over $300.00, used ones sell for $200.00. A used Deus kit with backphone and controller sells for somewhere between $1000.00 and $1200.00, not very many are available though and they get snapped up quick. Rob at Rob's Detectors has a very lightly used one for sale at a good price, you'd have to check with him on actual price and shipping. So, if you assembled a Deus HF detector from components at retail, you'd spend roughly $1500.00. If you bought used rod/shaft, and controller, with a new HF coil, you're looking at just over $1000.00. Or,you could buy the whole kit and sell off the components you don't need. Better still, you get the whole kit, add a new shaft/rod assembly and end up with two detectors, one equipped with the "puck", the other with the main controller. Just random thoughts from a bored dog sitter. I'm in S. Cal right now, but sunny Yuma by the Sea will see temps of 118 to 120 this week. I'll get home just in time the catch those max temps, sweet!
  17. We had a cold snap in sunny Yuma, low 70's at sunup. Didn't reach 80 till nearly 9am. I took the Deus out for a little testing in an area we have absolutely hammered with every known detector. I didn't find any gold, but the Deus surprised me with some of its capabilities. Per our discussion on the Notch vs. Discrimination theory, I set up the machine for 3 tones, relying on tone discrimination rather than true Notch or Iron Discrimination. With the Deus software the first setpoint for Tone discrimination really becomes a null, so 3 tones becomes 2 tones. It's actually a little more complicated than that, but won't help us for this discussion. So, I set the first actual audio tone, (2nd notch) for iron ID of between 0 and 20, and made it as low an audio tone as was possible. The next Tone breakpoint takes over from an ID of 20, where the last one left off, and all out way out to the end of range in the '90s. That tone is our sweet tone, you can set it at any level your hearing prefers. During my previous outings over undug targets, gold ID'd in the mid '50s. If you recall my first outing with the new HF coil, I was underwhelmed with the audio. Over a test nugget at the time, I missed the dynamic "zip" audio of the Gold Bug II. I thought the Deus audio somewhat anemic at the time. That all changed for me today. Using the remote to access the menu functions, I upped the audio response to 6 from the preset of 4. Wow, what a difference. So much difference that the machine got a little "chattery" in some of the hotter ground. But I live by "chattery" using the Z7000, so I just went with it. I found half a dozen shotgun pellets that just screamed dig me, showing a VID between 55 and 60, the same as gold. I buried a .25 gram nugget in some of the hottest ground I could find. The machine clipped and chirped, but at about 5 inches, the audio over the nugget was bright and crisp. No mistaking that audio, everything I thought I missed about the GBII audio, was alive and well in the Deus. Over the same test nugget and same hot ground I played with the other settings. I was running Sens at 85 and upped it to 90. While the target sound was somewhat brighter, the resulting feedback from the ground would have negated it for practical use in the field. Steve H would find a way to run this machine maxed out, but for me less was better. Raising the Reactivity helped quiet the "chatteryness", but I wanted to run the machine as wide open as possible. I settled on a Reactivity of 2. I then played with the Discrimination over the same nugget in the same hole. I ran it from negative 6, to positive 10. I found no benefit in this ground to running max negative Discrim, but a sweet spot seemed to be around negative 3. The more positive discrimination above +6 starts to give the test nugget at 5 inch depth, a breaking audio, alternating from the Iron tone to a true gold tone. No bueno for real life field prospecting, although it would be enough to make you stop and investigate. The Deus has a separate control for Iron volume, but that is disabled when running negative Discrimination. So, my current working theory is running Discrimination at +1, setting the iron volume at 1, then using the (Low)Tone feature to handle the rest of ordinary Iron problems out to an ID of 20. I tried the Deus standard Goldfield Program over the same ground. It just didn't do it for me so I left off without really giving it a true workout. Maybe it works, but I wanted to fiddle with all the other features of this machine. I'm off to ranch sit, taking care of horses and dogs for the next week or so. No more moments of clarity with the Deus till I make up to CA gold country. I might make it out for some beach detecting, so who knows. Until then, keep er low and slow.
  18. According to the latest post on XP's blog the frequencies of the HF coils are different than published before. The 9" round HF is now 14-30-59 KHz and the Elliptical HF, available in May 2017 is now 14-30-81 KHz. With 81KHz the Deus V4 should be even more sensitive than the GB2. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/02/10/deus-update-v4-uk/deus-update-v4-uk.pdf
  19. OK, after all the kind words and get well wishes from my incautious adventuring on Outing IV, I went back out in the wilds of Sunny Yuma. Stitches out, hand still sore, groin injury tolerable. I left for the local Colorado River area on Wed afternoon to catch a few sundown largemouth bass with plans to hike what passes for mountains down here on Thur morning. Bass fishing was great, but I just couldn't get comfortable in a kayak with a bum knee and aching hamstring. I persevered and caught a couple nice bass. I slept on the boat, not the kayak mind you, and started hiking at sunup. I set the Deus HF up a little bit different thinking there would be no trash. I used the standard "Fast" program but added "negative" Discrimination available in the V4 update, Sens at 85, Freq 54, Reactivity 2. Right away I hit a couple ferrous trash targets that easily registered between 2 and 4 on the VID. Both modern type nails but the VID was spot on. Next I hit an old .22 shell casing with a VID of 74. I then hit the first nugget, the smallest of the two. It showed a solid VID of 58 and weighs .28 gram. Great start for the morning. I then hit a few more ferrous targets registering in the 2 to 4 VID and I didn't bother to dig. Next came the bigger nugget just shy of 1 gram. It was probably 4 to 6 inches deep and showed a solid VID of 55. When I rounded the next bend in the wash I found a small section of old drywash tailings up on the shoulder of the wash. Full of 1950's era trash, nails, screws and wire, apparently the source of the trash in the wash. One thing fooled me though, a deep tobacco tin registering in the high 60's and mid 70's on the VID. By then 2 hrs on, it was getting hot, mid 80's temps and I had a long walk back. I decided to take a short-cut, over the top of the mountains. Rarely a good idea, especially with an already bum knee and sore hamstring. Nevertheless I packed the Deus in my pack and broke out the trekking poles for the hike. I ended up finding a decent Mountain Sheep trail that wound me through the hills and out to within a 1/2 mile of my destination. When I got home and unpacked my gear I realized that I am a "Maroon" (Nurse Paul/Nevada Chris saying) and had left the Deus Control Unit and Earphones laying on a rock ledge while I packed the pack for the trek back. So tomorrow I'm headed back out there, although I think I'll take the GPZ 7000 and look for some deeper nuggets. I think I'm really getting the hang of this Deus. There is no threshold and over hot ground it clips and chirps. I'm sure that would affect depth ultimately, but it does what is expected for discriminating the ferrous trash. I think, although I can't be certain, the "negative" Discrimination makes the targets much more reactive on the VID screen. The "Horseshoe" screen was useless at these settings, however the VID was quite helpful. This machine is not bump sensitive and weighs next to nothing, after dragging that Z around, no kidding. I'm sure the Minelab Monster is going to be a great unit, but I'm sticking with this Deus. It's ultimately packable and reasonably forgiving on its settings. A great addition for the kind of detecting I do. Until the next time kids, Condor out.
  20. At least one Australian dealer is selling what is being called the XP Deus "GoldField" High Frequency Gold Package. This is a fairly normal Deus setup but with the 9" round high frequency coil. Items included: XP Deus Full Featured Remote control Unit. (Ten Built in Programs including Gold field with one touch ground balancing.) XP Deus 9 Inch (22.5cm) HIGH Frequency coil - The white one. (15, 30 and 55 kHz + 7 Shifts for each, 21 frequencies total) S-Shaped Telescopic shaft. 240V Charger with 3 way cable Arm Band 2 sets of coil connecting hardware User manual Hip Mount case for Remote control 5 Year Warranty FREE FX-02 Wired Backphones Priced at $1899 Australian (US$1415.00) I do not know if this is going to be a standard package or is just something the Aussie dealer put together, but it would make sense for XP to offer HF coil package options since they do it for other coils. There may end up being an elliptical coil version and possibly even a version like the Depar DPR 600 Even at $1400 the HF Deus is a lot more money than something like the Minelab Gold Monster but the DPR 600 would be much more price competitive with dedicated nugget detectors should XP choose to market it outside Africa. September 2018 - New XP ORX announced.
  21. I am going to update this thread/post with links to any reviews of the Deus HF coils I can find as they appear. Remember, the high frequency (HF) coils only work with V4. Andy Sabisch 9" HF Coil Review Condor - First Impressions 9" HF Coil Condor - Second Outing 9" HF Coil Condor - Third Outing 9" HF Coil Aussie Detectorist Gives 9" HF Coil A Go Paul(CA) Tries The 9" HF Coil In Thick Iron Trash Mccrorysjewelry2 Report
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