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  1. Used round HF coil today for 1.5 hours. The MI-6 performed flawless when using with detector. No hang ups with audio, coil linking, or stuck screen or any what I call unacceptable delays as far as transition when powering on or off the pinpointer. Nice performance.
  2. I know this is probably getting old for folks. A 1.5 hour hunt late this morning. But again in the same site as the Spanish bit, around 30 ft away, and depth of half dime a mere 4" deep. Agan used 28.8 kHz,,signal barely heard but better IMO than the signal on the Spanish bit I found a few days ago. Extremely hard hunted site by myself previously using other detectors and coils. Folks I see a trend with this coil. I think. Either I have become a better detectorist in the last couple months or this coil is doing something for me. I let you guess which one I think. And to think maybe a lot of folks where thinking high frequency is for lower conductors only. Well, I don't see it this way. Gotta love this coil. My rabbits foot maybe. I did use the MI-6 pin pointer this morning too. Will write some thing up about it as far as using with elliptical HF coil-- not all good either. Hard for me to lay my war horse Garrett Propointer down. Pinpointers do have their personalities too,,hard to change and feel real comfortable.
  3. I recently discovered these stick on permanent charge clip bases and I am loving it. I wondering now why XP didn't do this in the first place! Just have a direct USB port right there. So much easier to deal with all the time especially with multiple coils. If it was just molded into the coil it would be even better. But so far this seems to be working great for me. I have only found this one guy in Ukraine selling them on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/XP-Deus-Search-Coil-Charge-Clip-NEW-NEW-NEW-/170780528970?hash=item27c350114a:g:Tm8AAOSwd~RZQUzG
  4. Seems some folks already experiencing problems. http://www.findmall.com/read.php?83,2369596
  5. I have not used my MI-6 pinpointer very much at all since receiving. I am so accustomed to my Garret Propointer it is hard for me to try and get used to a new pinpointer and a new detector coil (HF elliptical) at the same time. Anyway today I used the MI-6 this morning on a 1.5 hour hunt. Tonally I like the pointer, and I like the pulse option tone wise and love how the pointer ratchets tone as the points nears metal. Now the bad. This pointer has problems when used with elliptical HF coil. I witnessed many times coil loss when turning pointer off, would have long delay to get coil linked. I even had the screen freeze up on remote when turning pinpointer off a few times, but with time (way to long IMO) the detect screen would finally appear. I had after turning pointer off, the detect screen as well as the coil linking (coil freq) shown in screen and didn't get a no coil warning,, but the detector had no audio whatsoever,,even sweeping my shovel 0 disc full tones,,,again though after long delay the audio would start being provided. Xp needs to get this fixed with update. A real pain. And if a person isn't careful, it is possible to after turning pointer off,,to sweep right over a find and get nothing tonally. I have read where some users of pointer say the pointer works as advertised using LF coils. I can't say, maybe with some time, I will get out all of my Deus coils and do some testing.
  6. Finds first: So back at the end of June I scouted a new park and potential jewelry patch but due to oppressive heat and drought conditions in July and most of August I've only been back three times since then. In addition to climate, my detecting time has severely been cut because jiu jitsu takes over our family life 4 nights a week as my kids and wife found themselves addicted to the dojo and choking people. I'm a bad influence, I guess. Two weeks ago (my last real 6 hour detecting session) I ran into another detectorist at this park working his Ace around the same goal net I worked back in June. Soon we were chatting and then kinda hunting together as he sort of followed me around, which was slightly annoying when I'm used to being alone, but that's me, not him really. Anyway, while we were hitting various spots around the park I picked up a small 10k ring at the edge of one playground. 4th hunt here and gold! 1.4 grams 10kt (unknown triangle mark) We finally got more rain and I went back to this patch a few days ago. I went to one of the softball backstops the other detectorist and I hunted around a few weeks back. I was mindlessly pulling square tabs three feet from the backstop fence, trying to reduce the trash load, when to my surprise gold #2 appeared - 7.4 grams 14kt FG mens band! Boom! 1 hour 45min into the hunt. Same tone as the older style square pull tabs and just about into bottlecap range. In fact, I dug a few square tabs that while on the surface sound and VDI the same as the ring. That's without headphones and using the module's external speaker, btw. After 5 hunts of maybe 35 hours I am pleased with the new patch so far. Almost two dozen junk jewelry, over $25 - 30 in change and one silver ring, one silver dove pin (no picture) and two gold rings. Both rings taken with Deus 4.0 11" coil, full tones, 0 discrimination, 0 notch 18khz. Thanks for peeking and good hunting to you.
  7. Another hunt this morning. In a hard hunted site. Last silver to come from this side of road for me was a war nickel,,I dug with Nokta Impact using small elliptical when testing it. And the Spanish bit in the pic was dug approx 11"-14" from where I dug this war nickel back ealier in the year. There is no telling how many times I have swept this Spanish bit in the past using other detectors and coils including Deus and LF coils, and the round HF Deus coil too. Ground is drier than previous hunts here. Could have helped me find this bit. If folks would have heard this signal's tone on the Deus in full tones,,,I don't think anyone would have expected silver. Not even me.lol I was surprised. And the depth of this bit? A mere 4-4.5" deep. Site is loaded with iron and square nails. A broken signal and barely audible. Dug some other things too, but these were dug around 150 ft behind this small patch where the bit was found. Check out the washer(nonferrous) on the nail, that is how it come out of the ground. Orientation though unknown. Funny thing in this small patch I have dug 2 extremely old pocket knives previously. Could that have been a clue,,for old timers sitting around a whittling or whatever. I am really liking this coil,,,,a must have IMO for older sites,,sneaky little devil. But one has to be paying attention, not all nonferrous goes ringy dingy. Got to go back this afternoon later. Deer hunting for me, just doesn't turn me on anymore like detecting does. Little better pic of bit. f
  8. Received my MI-6 pinpointer today. A few comments. I have tested and used a little bit. Nice addition I feel to anyone operating a Deus unit. Will benefit both Deus lite package users as well as packages containing the remote unit. The pinpointer if a person has the remote, will have no problem knowing if the pinpointer is switched on or off just by glancing at the remote, not so with Deus lite package ( looking at headphone module). Unit easily pairs to actual Deus unit. Notice I said Deus Lite package above (no remote). This brings up a good question for dealers here, and I will be posting this actual thread on another forum where actual dealers sponsor. For good reason too. Folks who opt to purchase Deus lite package, if I am correct there, if a dealer will use an "in house" remote and pair the pinpointer for Deus lite purchaser,,the pinpointer can in fact be used in an actual interface fashion. And with drop shipping, yes this could be a problem. But I think if a person looks around, maybe they can find a dealer with items in stock at dealership. I do have a question for Craig (detecting Mo). If the pointer is paired using the remote of course for say a person who has Deus Lite unit, later on after this has transpired,,can the Deus lite owner operator,, can they actually unpair the pinpointer intentionally or accidentally, making pairing void, hence since the person wouldn't have a remote to re pair,,they would be SOL. Am I right here Craig with my thinking. I like the belt clip and how it rotates. I have played with the non interfaced option of using, still not ready to comment on it just yet. Will say for folks buying pinpointer,,and if a person is thinking of later upgrading or buying a Deus unit,, you might want to go the MI-6 route,, and yes it can be used it seems at least to the satisfactory level with any Vlf detector. http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/local/Xpmda/Frontend/assets/docs/MI-6_Manual.pdf More to come maybe.
  9. SO took the Deus out for the first time with the HF coil to get a feel for it. It is surprisingly sensitive, I was picking up the tiniest lead split shot out of crevices and they were screamin! Still havn't found gold but it's promising.. I think the hardest part is finding the right locations (that are accessible anyway) so many miles of known gold country is claimed and off limits I have always done relic and coin hunting, gold is somewhat new to me. Still trying to find that first nugget.
  10. So rather than spend $200 for the XP branded case I thought I could do better. So first I bought the Plano model 108442 gun rifle case for $70 shipped on Amazon
  11. The owner's manual for Deus detector recommends when components are charged to disconnect charging harness from components. I really don't know electrically what happens with say the wall charger, or even a auto charger adapter when Deus components reach full charge. So, I have this portable pack. Will show a front and back pic. It has a percentage of charge left shown in upper right corner. This thing seems will charge a Deus up a bunch. Here is where the pack may come in handy even when at home and you desire to charge your Deus,,but can't be there eyeballing it when it reaches full charge. Or maybe driving and don't want to monitor charge process. Btw other packs may operate similar,,this is only the second type I have owned,,first one didn't give info like this one does. Anyway, when Deus components (all) when connected reach full charge the pack seems to shut down,,due to no load being applied. The percentage number of power left in pack (numerical indicator) goes out when all Deus components are fully charged. Bought this one at Wally World for $28 bucks. Will pump a cell phone battery up too, tablets, etc. r
  12. Steve, How is the XP Deus working for you? Is it really a worthwile addition for a CTX owner with small 6" smart coil for unmasking? I tried the Nokta Relic. I wanted to like it but too many false signals had me digging tons of trash. Some iron gives high signals even just 2 inches down in my dirt, out of the hole it goes low signal. I don't have time for that. Coins go into the upper nineties for target ID so a nail & coin look the same. I understand it's different in other States with milder soil. I finally bought a new CTX instead. These machines work here! I never seem to be able to get away from a Minelab. (Fisher has been good as well. Accurate target ID) -Don
  13. I just ordered my first Deus and a HF coil. So can you clarify. In the parks around town should I keep the freq lower or still take advantage of the higher freq? Seems from the videos I've seen so far the higher freq make non-ferrous jump out more. So will I ever need to use the lower freq at all? I understand I am gonna use the 80khz when prospecting for nuggets but have been curious about the benefits of using the lower freq still Forgive my newb questions.
  14. Steve here was kind enough to sell me his HF coil for Deus detector. I have been testing and using this coil detecting heavily since I have received. In a nutshell, this coil chews through iron like nothing I have seen. In a few sites, they are controlled with me only using detectors.. I didn't realize the quanitity of nonferous left in these patches after using other detectors and coil combinations. Now some of this nonferrous was junk left here, but still I didn't realize. Some thing about this coil,,now Deus has never been famed for great ID of targets. And overall this is still true, but with one exception. And that is when hunting in super heavy dense iron. The elliptical coil seems to give some pretty good info meter wise on targets for such a difficult site to detect. For instance, a person can take a Deus with 9" LF coil into a site heavy with nails, and here some of the targets tonally, a lot of these same targets when swept with HF coil, will give extraordinary clear tone and decent to good ID to boot ( I call it a a good average) when sweeping. This info could be used to cherry pick targets. Also worth noting, just based on nonferrous tone alone when sweeping a target in a site loaded with nails, user may think target is more solo sitting. I was shocked to see many targets with nails, some even BIG recovered with nonferrous finds. This coil purrs like a kitten unlike the LF coils for Deus. I have experienced extremely little to no interference while using this coil. 14 hours testing - 8 hours detecting thus far, EMI vulnerability has been checked in 15 different places. Some of these areas one might expect to get some moderate at least emi interference, so far this coil does nicely. This coil when in a heavily nail ridden site, IMO if hunted previously with other good performing in nails/iron detectors,,,using frequency 28.8khz really lets the Deus show its stuff here. As far as using the highest band freq 74khz I have used, it does run quiet, but time of use still limited. This coil when installed on Deus rod does make the detector want to roll over more when placed on ground recovering targets. With the coil left in detecting position. So the remote will possible get some ground contact if installed on rod while using. This coil may not be for everyone, no Vdi normalization allowed for freq used, so the Vdi scale is compressed on the higher end. Using 14khz band does spread out some, better than the other 2 higher bands. Maybe with some more use, I can share more info about this nice coil.
  15. It's a mere 114 degrees here in the Desert Southwest and I've got another bunged up knee. No stitches this time, just a bruise on the critical moving parts, but it gave me an opportunity to futz with my Deus conversion to the collapsible Golden Mask rod. The problem with the Deus HF coils is that the battery is stored in the rod tube, so you have a critical wire lead from the battery to the coil. Deus solved it by making the rod connection to the coil ears a hollow split design so that the battery wire runs straight up the rod with a curly wire section that acts like a spring to keep the wire under tension. The Golden Mask rod has a solid tip at the connection to the coil ears with no place to run the battery wire of the new Deus design. So, I got out the saw and the Dremel and started making some modifications. The first thing I had to do was cut off the Golden Mask solid connection tip that bolts to the coil ears. The tip is solid HD plastic that inserts into the carbon fiber hollow tube about 2 inches. So, I cut the carbon fiber above the insert so that I could reuse the insert. I then used the Dremel to cut a slotted path for the coil battery wire to run from the bottom of the coil ear connection insert with sufficient clearance for the wire to slide smoothly. The portion of the coil ear connection that inserts into the carbon fiber tube is more or less hollow, so I continued my wire path through the outer wall into the hollow section. That way, I could run the coil wire through the groove, then slide the wire inside the tip connection and when I re-inserted the tip section the whole mess is captured inside the tube, very close to the Deus type design. The battery pack fits squarely inside the 2nd segment of the Golden Mask collapsible tube with just enough tension to keep the wire sliding freely. I then put some black electrical tape around my grooved section to keep the wire firmly inside the groove. The only other thing was a rubber washer 5/16 X 3/4 from Lowe's hardware to shim up the coil ear connections for a tighter fit. What I end up with is a detector that weights less than 2 lbs, collapses to 24 inches and extends to a maximum of 51 inches. My goal has always been to make the Deus into a discriminating pinpointer to augment the Minelab 7000. Some of my Baja prospecting excursions have resulted in way too many deep holes to recover ferrous trash that falls off the turn of the century type drywashers the oldtimers used down there. At my age, it's all about conservation of energy. You can only dig so many 2 ft holes in 85 degree temps before your day is used up. If my new discriminating pinpointer can cut my digging time in half, I'll be thrilled. By way, I had the opportunity to compare the Deus side by side with the Gold Monster on undug targets in N. NV. I was certainly impressed with the GM target audio responses and its ability to quickly adjust to changing conditions. If I were starting out gold prospecting and could only afford VLF, I'd certainly make it the GM. I like my Deus as a supplement to my Z7000, but it is not a turn on and go machine. I think at the end of the day, GM users would cover more ground simply because it's so simple and target responses are unmistakable.
  16. Published on Aug 4, 2017 - Testing the new Deus HF elliptical coil against the Garrett AT Gold on a gold earring.
  17. http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/deus/548580-xp-deus-v4-1-beta-now-live.html
  18. This post here for folks interested in Xp Deus, new users of detector and anyone else desiring more information. Goal here is to make this more of a one stop shop for folks looking for information concerning Xp Deus. I highly encourage all to read the version 4.0 manual. It can be found online. A lot of Deus units received by folks may indeed have 3.x manuals provided with their units. After you use your new unit, go back reread portions of the manual. And again repeat this. It will take more than a few times to comprehend all. And some in field use and testing will go a long ways in understanding some of what is stated in manual. Deus is not a dead quiet running unit!!!! It will chirp, if used to detect. Don't be trying to get it not to chirp. Deus, the way it IDs targets is a break away from tradition here when compared to most other Vlf detectors. A person air testing their units, this air testing (as it relates to ID) don't paint true pic of how Deus actually works in the field. A lot of what Deus can do, how it will sound, how it will react,,,these tendencies can be mimicked a great deal with on top of the ground tests using nonferrous objects and item made of ferrous commonly found while detecting. Navigation of unit needs to be mastered. The only way to do this is to navigate, and peek around. Especially under the expert tabs. Mineralization meter. New users should heed the data this meter provides to user. It can and will affect some settings as far as performance. Ground balance User has options. KISS priinciple should be applied here. A pumping GB over clean ground to start off with. Understand the icons for pairing of devices as depicted on remote (if applicable) Understand the 2 boxes where ground phase data is supplied. Be mindful of silencer setting, this setting can be changed on its own, depending on selected reactvity setting chosen. Understand some audio volume while over deeper targets can be had with audio report levels 5 and higher. Deus disc layout is not your typical disc layout. If offers disc settings expressed in tenths with some settings. New users IMO should steer away from all metal modes of detector excluding the use of pinpoint function. Users should study the factory program settings depicted toward the rear of manual. Users should learn what the term Vdi normalization means, and by turning this feature off,,,know how both means affect detector readings, and find out any advantages by using one setting or the other. Understand Deus doesn't have a depth meter per SE,,,but does offer other means to judge depth (generally on coin sized objects). Understand the notch feature. It's use and affects is not exactly what a person would think, due to the way Deus IDs targets in the field. When asking others for Deus advice,,,you should provide you soil mineral levels generally found in your sites. Like refer to mineralization index meter readings as low scale, mid scale or 3/4 scale. Deus will behave differently here depending on what the index meter says. Users should learn how to marry their components themselves. Very good chance your deus detector will arrive with all components married to one another. Pay very close attention to proper charging instructions as far as how the charging clip is connected. I think this information above. Will get a person on their way. Here is link with summary of what version 4 brings. http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/xp-deus-version-4-features Here is link with actual Deus V4 users manual. http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/telechargement/Instruction manual/DEUS_V4_MANUAL_UK.pdf Now these links, when read and studied may cause some folks to asked some questions. By all means ask. With the talent of folks that visits and or post on this forum, you'll likely get an answer. Folks will notice the Deus Lite package. This is package without remote. Here is some info shedding light on the Deus Lite package. You may see this referred to as Starter Pack. Here is what you have access to via wireless headphone module. Factory program number selection Remember some of the slots will be blank--- due to no upload Disc Sensitivity Ground balance-- only manual-- no tracking or pumping like you would have with remote Frequency Number of tones,, to include pitch and full tones Sound volume Coil selection-- in case you have more than one coil So you can see from above,,,you won't have access to the following,, remote purchase allows the following settings changes Notch Tone break setting Tone freq setting Reactivity Silencer Ground notch Iron vol adjustment Auto ground tracking Pumping GB option Vdi normalization option Xy screen option Update version option,, or downgrade version option Tx power setting Freq shift Overload setting Pinpoint function All metal mode(s) selection I think this is most of what you miss with wireless headphone module use ONLY. Additional comments here. A person purchasing a Deus package without remote. They can use another person's remote and infact update their headphone module and coil. They can by using someone's remote, actually program their setup with programs that entail making changes to the settings outlined above. (Remote only viewable/adjustable settings) If a user does this, they will not have a way to actually view (or change) these settings, but the settings will be felt by user when detecting. So a person would need to write down their settings per slot number on remote to remember which settings apply. Here's a link with multiple videos talking about Deus. http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/category/videos-xp/deus/ MI-6 pinpointer users manual http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/local/Xpmda/Frontend/assets/docs/MI-6_Manual.pdf Xp classroom and skills center videos. http://www.xp-detectors.co.uk To conclude here. Deus with latest released High Frequency coils looks to have made the Deus a better gold nugget finder. So even though this post is in the coin and relic section, gold nugget hunters may find this info useful too.
  19. The new Deus HF elliptical coil has just slightly smaller dimensions than the 10" Gold Bug 2 coil. The Gold Bug 2 coil is solid and the Deus coil is an open web design. Even more important, the GB2 coil is a concentric as are all Gold Bug 2 coils. The Deus coil is a DD coil. This means the Deus has a more complex response on small shallow targets than the GB2 coil but the DD design may have advantages in more mineralized ground over the GB2 concentric coil.
  20. https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=249660 https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=2804506#post2804506
  21. Deus 9" hf and pinpointer first impressions I got my new Deus 9" hf coil and wireless pinpointer yesterday, thank you Rob everything was perfect and the delivery was right on time. Assembly and syncing everything went smoothly, I'd watched a couple of short utube videos on setup of the new coil the day before and it's a simple (intuitive) process anyway. I didn't think I was going to like the white color of the new coil, but now that I have it it looks fine and the coil cover is black, so OK. Now all my comparisons are against my experience with the 11" standard coil, that's how I bought my original package new from the dealer. The balance is now much improved, the two coils don't feel all that much different off the main shaft in your hand, but once it's out there the new coil is much lighter and feels great, it also looks tiny in comparison to the 11". The new coil completes the startup/EMI operations faster than the standard coil, at least the flashing light indicating completion of the operation seems to cycle in about 1/2 the time of my 11" coil. The little I've run the new hf coil in some parks I'm not at all disappointed in the performance, it's smooth and manageable in all frequencies and is less bothered by emi. In one area I was directly under some power lines at a school where my whites sst had been unusable and the 11" coil really struggled. Directly under the wires I did pick up some chatter, lowering the sensitivity (70) helped a lot and 10 feet away I had no problem with the emi. The depth I'm seeing seems about the same as the 11 standard, I'm picking up wheat cents and other deeply buried old clad I missed with the 11" and tiny pieces of aluminum fragments from bottle cap retainer seals. I'm still getting a feel for the target I'd numbers the 11" numbers jumped around so much they weren't very useful, these seem better more stable... the tones are also crisper and its easier to lock on to on a desirable target sound (I think anyway). Most of these things I expected to improve just by going to the smaller coil, the 11 will now be reserved for speciality hunting, beach and wide open areas. Pinpointing is very accurate both by the wiggle or pinpoint function. Speaking of the pinpointer it's easy to sync, doesn't false works perfect, very accurate tones (meaning the pitch setting), easy to adjust...I can hear it in my headphones, very nice lanyard and belt clip, it worked perfect, one time I did have to switch back to the pointer and then coil when the coil volume did not sync but the switch from pointer to coil is almost instantaneous and automatic when you press the pointer power button. I love this pointer and now could not part with it this is a must have for the Deus. I ran the coil over some tiny gold in my back yard, the Emi is really bad I have old power lines and transformers running directly across the rear of the property. I had no trouble hearing the tiny nug with the chatter from the electrical lines, I'm anxious to get up in the hills and try out the new coil next week in some trash areas in gold country and see how well it handles the iron and hot rocks. happy hunting, clark
  22. Yesterday I got my August issue of Lost treasure and here on page 44 was field test with a review by Andy on the V4.0 Deus. I'm sure Andy could have used more room to cover the Deus on what it has to offer. Time and space has control of what we do in life. I think Andy done a great job but I'll let you make your review of his review on the Deus. Chuck
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