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  1. Just thinking about the possibilities, some assumptions are necessary to further the thought. Let's assume the Deus introduces the 5X9 coil as expected. We know the Deus is unique in that the coil is the detector, no control box mounted on the shaft. We know the audio and control functions are wireless and transmitted to a very small pocket sized controller or wireless headphones. The Deus seems to be very accurate on Ferrous, at what depth I can't be sure. So, other than something to function as a handle, the coil could be carried in a pouch or belt holster, brought out and switched on as needed to check the dig hole for ferrous targets and pinpoint non-ferrous. The existing 8" round coil might be a little too cumbersome for this concept, but the 5X9 would be a reasonable fit. I know there have been a few people who have fashioned the same concept with the Fisher Gold Bug machines with varying degrees of success. They still have to deal with a wired control box. I ran the Deus side by side with the GPZ the other day. All I needed was about 10 ft of separation to avoid interference between them. The Z reacted if you pointed the Deus coil at it, but otherwise they played well together, both machines switched on at the same time. Your thoughts?
  2. I've been detecting for gold for over 20 yrs and never had much interest in the coin and relic side of detecting, but I was getting bored in sunny/hot Yuma. I got interested in the XP Deus because of its potential for gold prospecting in heavy trash and started my online research. Naturally, I experienced a good deal of confirmation bias, finding all good reasons to get a new Deus and ignoring all the downsides. I'm really betting on the come with the alleged new coil with higher gold frequencies. Nevertheless, I decided to buy one and get started learning a different side of detecting. Many thanks to Rob Allison at Rob's Detectors for helpful advice and putting together a nice package deal with the Garret Carrot pinpointer. It's only 87 degrees here at sunup so gold prospecting was going to have to be short and sweet. Yesterday I took the Deus out to the PotHoles area where I met Fred this past winter. We had detected near his camping spot and found way too much trash, but a few small nuggets. I brought along a .5 gram and a 1gram nugget for testing. I detected for less than an hr before it got too hot and found no gold. I practiced with my test nuggets in some of the hotter ground and in with the trash. The Deus detected both nuggets with relative ease, the .5 gram at about 4 inches in hot ground. I would not say that it was any better on the .5 gram than the $499.00 Gold Bug, but there are some nifty things you can do by adding different tones to ferrous targets without adding depth killing discrimination. I'm still learning this process, but I'm pretty sure it will have its place in some gold areas littered with iron trash. This morning I decided to try coin/jewelry hunting in the park. Yikes, I was not prepared for cacophony of noises from the trash in parks. After a dozen flip tabs and bottle caps I decided I better learn this detector elsewhere without making a mess of the grass. I understand the whole "plug" thing and the pinpointer helps, but I was not too confident that someone might not bitch about my excavations. So then I noticed that there were 5 new volleyball courts with nice washed river sand footing. I started thinking about Steve's micro-jewelry concept and decided that was the place to learn this new detector. I could dig every target and not make a big mess. I detected the first court and found a few zinc pennies then played around with the detector settings. Since the ground was relatively clean, I ran the stock "Fast" program, but took the discrimination down to 0 and switched the tones to "Full Tones". You won't miss much in clean ground with that program. The photo shows my success in less than 2 hrs of hunting. A couple pieces of micro-jewelry. The one piece has 2 sparkly stones, doubtful they are diamonds, but I'm on the right track. Now, normally I doubt you would see me bend down to collect a zinc penny in plain sight, but with detecting it becomes part of the chase. So I collected a bunch of zinc pennies, shouldn't take me more than 3 yrs to pay off the detector as this rate.
  3. I remember a thread where Steve H. was reconsidering the Deus in light of a yet to be released new coil option that raised the possibility of its use as a VLF gold detector for high trash areas. I searched the web and everything pointed to a summer '16 release, all silent since then. Just wondering if there are any new hot rumors out there, maybe Nevada Chris can give some insight.
  4. XP had the original model Deus in 2009, followed by four updates and another coming this year. 2.0 added features 3.0 added features 3.1 fixed 3.0 3.2 fixed 3.1 4.0 pending Details and links: XP DEUS (2009) V 2.0 (2011) http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/xpforum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=72 The behavior of your DEUS remains identical but new functions are added: 4 Non-Motion modes: - PINPOINT - NON MOTION DISC with ACCEPT/REJECT meter - NON MOTION AUDIO DISC with ACCEPT/REJECT meter and audio discrimination - NON MOTION ALL METAL These Non motion modes are useful for example to locate cache inside houses, cellars. For conventional searching on fields Motion programmes are better. On the main menu: - Ground mineralization meter added - Signal strength meter featuring Accept/Reject indicator added Audio Response > Expert - Audio overload menu, to choose an overload sound when a target is close to the coil Program 7 WET BEACH > Deeper on wet areas Program 8 becomes DRY BEACH > Suitable for dry sand. V 3.0 (2013) http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/deus/360409-xp-deus-version-3-now-ready-downloding.html The highlights of the new version include: 01 – New Program N°10 – Gold Field – Gold Prospecting/Nugget Shooting 02 – Better Target Separation And Depth 03 – Finest Adjustment Of Ground Effect 04 – Now 10 Factory Programs + 8 User Programs That You Can Save 05 – Silencer More Efficient 06 – Stronger Audio Response 07 – Two New Audio Modes – 5 Tones and Full Tones 08 – Pitch Mode Adjustable 09 – Id Norm 10 – Non Motion Improved and Easier V 3.1 (2013) http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/blog-detection/en/update-deus/update-deus-3-1/ – The ground balance adjustment in non-motion mode is faster (the increment or decrement of the setting was a little slow). – The display of the mineralization strength from the main menu has been adjusted. The scale is now more representative of the mineralization level. – The display of the frequencies (4/8/12/18 kHz) on the headphone has been fixed (Previously, in some cases the headphone could display a different frequency while the real frequency was 4 kHz). – The audio volume of the headphone is now saved when you turn the unit off. – The beach mode (GB > BEACH YES) had a malfunction when changing the GB value, it is now fixed. – The SILENCER (REACTIVITY > EXPERT) is adjusted so as to follow the value of the version 2.0 in the factory programs using REACTIVITY 0, 1 or 2. V 3.2 (2013) http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/blog-detection/en/update-deus/update-deus-3-2/ V3.2 will correct slow mineralization strength reading and also battery charge lever issues that were seen on some V3.1 units, also the Notch Ground function is now off by default. V 4.0 (2017) http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/deus-update/ The new software version V4 will add include the following: A major reason for V4.0 will be to allow for use of a new 9" round plus 9.5" x 5" elliptical coil running at one of four new frequencies 14, 30, 55, or 80 khz. There is also a new wireless pinpointer for use with the system. • Reactivity 2.5, this new reactivity level is fast and deep, offering a good compromise especially when searching new terrain. • Program No10 GOLD FIELD : Improved Audio Response and reactivity. Goldfield will give excellent results especially when combined with the new HF coils…Now difficult targets can easily be detected in mineralized ground. The Tone menu has been removed. • Lower discrimination range : For those who want more control over ferrous targets. Negative discrimination of 0 to -6.4 makes it possible to locate previously rejected ferrous items, the lower discrimination range can also enhance the signature from deep targets which may have in the past been ignored. These new options also offer a big advantage when searching for specific targets such as ceramics or even meteorites. • Ground Effects: Improved Tracking. • Improved display and signal processing compatible with the new HF 21 frequencies. The display now has the ability to handle detection frequencies up to 81 kHz (18 kHz before), now with 7 frequency offsets (compared to 3 previously). • DEUS is now compatible with a smartphone: Target information and other data can be sent by radio link to a smartphone. An app will soon be available to unlock these features. • New program No 9 "HOT" : "Pro setting" this is a find everything program, based on the Full Tone audio mode with a very low discrimination. Hot is a very interactive program offering excellent feedback and target information. • New program No 6 "DEEP": "Pro setting" for locating deep targets, with moderate discrimination and specific signal processing. • Improved Non motion / static mode: Non motion modes are now more advanced offering better overall performance, with an improved sensitivity to small targets. • New processing : Dual processing power improves navigation and a range of other parameters. remote and headset battery life has slightly decreased to 18 and 20 hours respectively. • Normalization display is now a menu feature on the WS4 and WS5 headphones. • The headset volume is now stored when switched off. • The coil name in the coil menu have gone, the serial number is now used as the coil reference. • Erasing a coil from the list is done by replacing all characters with 0. • Audio tone can now be raised up to 993 hertz • Target Normalization mode is on by default (Normalization is not active with HF coils) • When turning OFF the remote control to use only the wireless headphone, the coil restart
  5. When I got into metal detecting in 1972 it was pretty simple. No discrimination, everything went beep, just dig it all up and see what you find. Advances came rapidly however, and manufacturers focused on making detectors that could eliminate trash to the highest degree possible while find coins. Coin detecting was the big market by far, as silver coins were still relatively common in parks and other locations. So the goal was to find a silver coin while ignoring everything else. Anything smaller than a dime was generally considered a trash target, so sensitivity to small items was actually not a good thing. Low frequency detectors that handled the ground well and ignored tiny trash items ruled the day. Most detectors ran around 6 - 8 khz. Then we got multi frequency, the first and most popular being the Fisher CZ detectors running at 5 khz and 15 khz. The desire there is not what most people think. Single frequency machines do not handle a combination of conductive and magnetic properties well at the same time, the classic place being a salt water beach with a little black sand in the beach sand. Two frequencies can be used to compare signals and reduce both the salt signal and the magnetic signal simultaneously more efficiently than single frequency machines. Multi frequency machines, in particular the Minelab BBS and FBS models, excel at accurate target identification. Again, sensitivity to tiny objects has not been the goal but instead accurate discrimination and ground elimination. The culmination came with notch discrimination and the ability to pick and choose specific target ranges to accept or reject. Always, when designing the detectors, when it came to borderline targets, the engineers focused on the idea that people hate digging trash. There is an ability on borderline targets to bias the detector response. You can find more good items if you let the machine do so but in return there will be more false positives and more trash dug. or you can really try and suppress trash signals, but some good targets get rejected with them. What I am talking about is the classic "iffy" targets. Ones that are extra deep, or next to a trash item, on edge, or which for various other reasons give mixed or broken signals. The machines got real efficient at cherry picking out the easy targets, and those started to disappear. All the online discussions and books started to focus on the need to dig those iffy targets to get results in places considered "hunted out". A detector running in all metal mode reports everything going on under the coil. Detectors running in discrimination modes do not but instead eliminate signals based on various criteria. The detector "sees" what it thinks is a trash target, and instead of a signal could be set to give no signal at all. The trash items just become invisible. A problem exists when a good item is directly under or next to a trash item that has been rejected. The detector, if set to ignore the trash item, also ignores the good item directly under the trash item. This is called target masking. But it gets a lot worse than that. The detector must ignore the trash target, then the circuit must reset, and then report the next item that comes along under the coil. This actually takes time, and that time frame is called the recovery time or recovery speed. The simple test for this is to put a nail next to a dime, and sweep the coil first over the nail and then the dime. If the dime is too close to the nail, it gets ignored along with the nail. If the detector has a very slow recovery speed, the nail and the dime can be inches apart and the dime is still eliminated! The faster the recovery time, the closer the dime can be to the nail and still have the dime signal. Many things can be learned doing this. First, sweep speed matters. Going slower gives the detector time to reset so if you sweep too fast, you miss the dime. Go slower, it can sound off. Second, direction matters. Dime next to nail, if coil is swept 90 degree across the nail, the dime gets missed. Turn and sweep along the length of the nail, and now the dime appears. This is why classic coin detecting skills recommends hunting a location from multiple directions. Coil size and type matters tremendously. Big coils have more chance of both the nail and dime being under the coil at once, and both being ignored. Small coils have a better chance of separating the targets. DD coils do better yet by narrowing the detection pattern. Tuning matters. If you set the detector to aggressively ignore all nails it is more likely to ignore the dime. If you set the discrimination to just barely reject the nail, even so far as letting it produce a pip or broken response, and now the dime may very well sound off also. In general you should only set to reject medium to small ferrous trash. Tuning out bolts will really mask about everything. Then people realized setting the nail to be silent and the coin to beep caused more masking than using two tones. A low tone for nails, and a high tone for dimes. Totally suppressing the nail is more likely to kill the signal from the dime. Letting tones flow from low to high keeps the audio circuit open and more likely to report the nail. All these tricks get combined, and so running with multiple tones, small coils, going slow, etc. all add up to more good finds being made. Now, certain machines have always excelled at this, in particular the Tesoro detectors and some older White's models. These were/are detectors with analog style single knob discrimination controls that could set a very fine point on where the discrimination point was between ferrous and non-ferrous. But as the new digital machines came online, we actually lost some of this capability because digital signals get broken down into small pieces for processing. Think old LP record versus early digital file recordings of music like MP3. An analog signal is continuous whereas a digital signal is a zillion little bits glued end to end, and just fast enough to sound continuous. It is like the frame rate on a movie file. It looks continuous to our eye but is actually distinct separate frames strung together. This digital type audio has been described as "gated audio", like a gate opening and closing, letting signals through. Analog type signals are described as "blended audio" or "bleedy signals" because the audio flows, blends, and bleeds together. With digital style audio the detector looks at a signal, decides if it is good or bad, assigns a tone (or no sound), then opens the gate and lets you hear it. Then it stops and looks at the next chunk, decides again, and opens the gate again before slamming it shut. Still with me? This is the biggie. It is this gated audio response and recovery times determined by processor speed that combine to mask targets. It gets worse. A dime right under a nail can be masked. The fun part is the deeper the dime is under the nail, the larger the area of masking is that occurs. If I sit where I am right now and hold my thumb up in front of my coffee cup, I can see the cup with my thumb in front of it. Now if I pull my thumb towards my eye and away from the cup, I can completely hide my coffee cup from view behind my thumb. Detectors actually have a similar "field of vision" effect going on, and recent surface trash can block out a lot or nearly all coins buried deeper down. Get the picture? You have a park where the surface inch or two is full of trash dropped the last thirty years. Under that are all those old silver coins you are looking for. But you have your detector set to reject all that surface trash and the coins get eliminated right along with it. There is far more silver lurking to be found than people realize. Still, all the way up to now, Fisher, Garrett, Minelab, and White's in particular have been cranking out detectors with the old "I do not want to dig trash" mindset at work, and the machines all have suffered from relatively slow recovery times and a bias against calling borderline targets good but instead calling them bad. And as a rule that has worked well enough for the U.S. market, especially because there were no alternatives and more importantly, people really had no idea what they were missing. VLF nugget detectors early on dealt with this, and the Gold Bug 2 and GMT both have ferrous id systems. However, their extreme sensitivity to tiny items and edge sensitivity to certain ferrous trash items like flat steel sections of rotted and disintegrated cans makes them impractical for most detecting outside of serious nugget hunting or perhaps micro jewelry detecting. Newer nugget machines like the Gold Bug Pro with a small coil up to now have been about as good as it gets for pulling non-ferrous targets out of ferrous trash and they are pretty darn good at it. That is why Gold Bug Pro variants like the Teknetics G2 and now the F19 and G2+ have been popular with and marketed to coin and relic hunters. The Garrett AT Gold is more popular with coin and relic hunters than nugget hunters for the same reasons. However, a detector renaissance of sorts has been taking place in Europe. They have thousands of years of ferrous trash in the ground and non-ferrous targets of all sorts scattered around in it. The very first thing that became obvious to them was that U.S. style discrimination schemes were pretty useless. The target types are too varied, so job one in Europe is to just dig all non-ferrous targets. The vast amount of trash in the ground also means recovery time is a large factor. The fields are huge and the hours long so light weight detectors are also favored. When I went to the UK for my hunt years ago I took a Fisher F75. At the time is was about the fastest swinging, fast recovery rate hot on small non-ferrous targets machine you could get in the U.S. The F75 and Tek T2 made a lot of their reputation in their ability to pull non-ferrous items out of ferrous trash. The reality is however that they still had some recovery time issues and a definite bias on borderline targets that cause non-ferrous items to be mis-identified as ferrous. The Europeans wanted something better. Some companies though simply ignored the market or figured what they had was good enough. Minelab in particular comes to mind. Where is their light weight, fast swinging, fast recovery detector? The X-Terra 705? Sorry, no. Tesoro has some good detectors but people really do want to see new detectors now and then, and they are content to just crank out twenty year old models. An opening was created, a vacuum that companies we never heard of decided to fill. Now, it just so happens all of this, everything I have described above, applies to looking for gold nuggets in trashy camp and other mining locations littered with ferrous targets. I have always kept an eye on what goes on in the relic hunting and European worlds because the needs and desires almost perfectly overlap with what nugget hunters need in trashy locations. And so a funny thing happened. Machines that work very well for nugget detecting started to appear in Europe. Names like the XP DEUS and Vista Gold entered my radar zone. One company, Nokta, suddenly appeared and targeted U.S. nugget hunters directly along with their sister company Makro. XP decided to get in on the game and added a Gold program to the DEUS. Most of this was actually driven more by the Africa market more than the U.S. market, as these days Africa is where the big bucks have been in nugget detector sales. The difference is that the DEUS in particular vastly improved the recovery time and it is now regarded as perhaps the best machine made for pulling non-ferrous targets out of ferrous trash. They did it using gated audio but with very fast and sophisticated audio processing. Nokta and Makro are doing something a bit different because their machines rely more on a circuit that almost perfectly duplicates the blended audio responses of old style analog machines but combined with digital discrimination. They also have the ability to sport much smaller coils than currently exist for the DEUS and so Nokta/Makro also have made inroads. Similar results can be obtained with either but with vastly different stylistic differences. The DEUS is the epitome of high tech wizardry, the Nokta/Makro units so far much more basic machines. DEUS is what White's could have done had they not been asleep at the wheel. All the pieces existed long ago with the XLT. And when I look at the Nokta/Makro detectors I see what could have been with Tesoro if they had not just stopped making new detectors. It is what it is however, and Euro style detectors are making waves and inroads into the U.S. markets, but almost as an afterthought as these companies target Europe and Africa. This long post all came about because I was out comparing a truck load of detectors again in the field, and the simple basic fact once again was right there before my very eyes. It all kind of boils down to two very broad classes of machines aimed at two very different end users. End user type one is common in the United States. The park or turf hunter. Park hunting requires sensitivity to outside factors, number one being that you just can't go crazy and dig holes everywhere. People like machines with high levels of accurate discrimination that deliver few false positives. In other words machines that focus on not digging a hole just to recover a trash item. The Minelab BBS and FBS machines like the Explorers and CTX 3030 are famous in this regard. They really are not the deepest detecting machines around by a long shot, but what they deliver is accurate discrimination results to depths beyond what most if any other machines deliver. I have a White's V3i that never really sees any use outside of parks because I like its incredible visual and audio discrimination customization features. The Euro machines do get criticism because while they are extremely good at telling ferrous from non-ferrous, they by design do allow for more false positives. A deep borderline coin in bad ground that my F75 will identify as ferrous a Euro machine will call good and have me dig it. What they really do not tell you is that the Euro machines do not tend to separate out different categories of non-ferrous targets very well, and so you find yourself digging all sorts of things like pull tabs because they end up sounding like a coin. And even a nail now and then. What I am trying to say with all this is that Euro style machines are really, really great for relic hunters and nugget hunters, or anyone who simply wants to recover all possible non-ferrous targets out of the middle of ferrous trash, or are willing to dig all non-ferrous targets in parks and other locations. What they really are not so great at is cherry picking certain types and categories of targets, and in general you will just dig more trash with the Euro machines than what I am calling the U.S. style machines even though that includes Minelab, an Australian company. Now you will get people who say they can cherry pick with a DEUS or FORS CoRe, and people who will say they can pull goodies out of thick ferrous trash with their Minelab Explorer, and of course that is true. I just think you are fighting the true underlying nature of the machines. This article is for the newer people out there who are confused by it all and looking for a little honest guidance. My advice boils down to this. If you simply want to dig all non-ferrous targets, machines made by Nokta, Makro, Tesoro, and XP excel at this task. If you really hate digging any trash at all and want to focus on certain targets only, like U.S. coins, then machines made by First Texas, Garrett, Minelab, and White's tend to focus more on what I would call "turf hunting" or hunting parks, schoolyards, etc where a high degree of discrimination is paramount to reduce needless digging. There are of course other companies but I have to keep things limited to the larger and more visible ones because things are already too complicated as it is. No matter which detector you use however, even the best cannot change the basic facts of target masking. There is stuff out there hidden under trash targets, and the only way to find those items is to remove the trash item first. The trashier the site, the more likely there are good items hidden away waiting to be found. There is no such thing as recovery time or target masking in all metal mode. In places where high value items are very likely to exist, nothing can be done but to dig it all if you want to be sure and not miss that once in a lifetime find. Beneath The Mask by Thomas Dankowski
  6. I've been on the hunt lately for a reasonably priced New VLF Detector that I can use primarily for the beach and prospecting trashy areas but any other additional modes I would consider a bonus such as coin and relic modes as I know I would use those modes at times also if available. I have tried to include all the positive and negative features I could find or think of but I invite any of you, especially those of you who have used one or more of these 3 machines for your opinion positive or negative. If you know of a better machine you feel I should look at please feel free to advise me. I highly regard your input. In short I've narrowed down the selection to the following 3 detectors as they all 3 seem to have the features I'm looking for, at least in the mid-priced range. I have also considered the CTX-3030 and the Garrett Pro as the Garret seems pretty solidly based but there is some uncertainty about it's salt water ability. The CTX- 3030 looks awesome just not sure I can go the steep price and a single freq machine I'm thinking would do as well or better in mineralized ground for my prospecting needs. XP Deus Plus Features: Selectable (4 Frequency 4, 8, 12, & 18 Khz), Very Fast Recovery speed, Ultra Light weight, breaks down easily, No wires to deal with. Has beach and goldfield modes notch Disc, Iron level, Multi-tone, motion and 4 non - motion modes, 10 pre-configured factory programs, 8 user programs that can be saved, ground tracking and grab ground balance, 5 yr Warranty, wireless digital, Rainproof, Backlight, low power consumption, lithium batteries, 20 hr life, 2 hr charge time, offset Freq. Negative Features: Coils very expensive, very small selection of coils, 1. Each component has it's own battery that needs recharge, Battery in coil is only factory replaceable. Makro Racer 2 Fast Recovery speed, handles mineralized ground well (ISAT), Has beach and deep mode. great price per feature economy, great selection of coils, notch filter, Auto or manual ground balance, remembers settings, threshhold, Iron audio, Volume control, uses common batteries (4AA), screen backlight, vibration, frequency offset Negative Features: Single Freq (14Khz), not waterproof, Good target ID's bunched together in the 80's, Whites MX Sport Pluses: Waterproof, 6 modes, Beach, prospecting, Relic, coin, all metal etc, Volume and threshold control, Ground grab, V/SAT, 20 hours on a charge,screen backlight, adjustable notch disc, Tone ID, frequency offset, Negatives: 4lbs, 8 AA batteries, 1/4 headphone via adapter, only 2 optional available coils so far, Single Frequency (13.8 Khz), New model, not fully tested by a large group, Terry
  7. I have put up info pages on the White's V3i at White's V3i Details & Review Page and XP DEUS V4 at XP DEUS V4 Details & Review Page
  8. Hey guys, I'm and european metaldector searcher who is searching with my XP Deus I especially like to try to search in highly mineralized and/or magnetic soils. As far as I know, these types of soils/grounds are found in parts of the USA and particularly in Western Australia and other parts of Australia. Unfortunately, I have never visited these sides in the USA and Australia yet... Hopefully it will be soon! I´m really curious what ID numbers you guys get while you are groundbalancing on this difficult soils with your XP Deus. Greetings! Roberto
  9. Recent trip decided to carry the Deus at rear through belt, comfortable and no drama carrying, remote in pocket (off). But on turn on of GPZ, very unstable lots of "EMI" could not tune it out. Took Deus off and walked away 20 yards. EMI gone GPZ back to brilliant norm. Guess I should have expected it as the Deus coil is constantly on standby looking for its remote, thought it would be a ideal pinpointer, certainly put paid to that senior moment in no time.
  10. Well after playing with the Deus the last four months I did find a .97 gram piece of gold with the Deus. I have found a dealer to trade the Deus for a Whites TDI-SL, or maybe the Whites SPP. As much as I love the ergonomics and no wires of the Deus, I found myself playing way to much with the settings and would have to tell myself "quit screwing with it". I bought a Gold Bug 2, what a great little detector. I have figured out I like the SOUND only, manual controls and no fancy screen stuff. Oh ya I have looked at many detectors, and would often think how nice those digital screens are, I think they are a distraction. PS: I have got this feeling that the Deus is kind of a prissy machine (don't want to hurt it) stupid ha. The Gold Bug 2 I can dig rocks with the coil, and don't feel bad, hope I don't get in to trouble for detector abuse. Ivan
  11. I ran my own company for 35 years and because of this I am sensitized to marketing and sales. I love a good idea when I see one. XP Metal Detectors makes several models of detectors, but the name has become almost synonymous with one model, the XP DEUS. This detector is a marketing dream come true. When you buy a DEUS, you think you are buying a metal detector with a wireless coil. The coil has a control that is similar to many detector pods just smaller, but can also be controlled via the headsets, though the functions are a bit more limited. There are also accessory coils available. Except not really. Each DEUS coil runs around $500 and is actually a metal detector. XP divorced the detector from the control pod but they did more than make a wireless coil. The coil is actually a metal detector less rod and control interface. This means two things. First, XP can come out with new controllers. They could introduce a color display controller if they wished that would work with the existing "coils". But the real brilliance is in selling you $500 metal detectors without you even realizing it. XP can design a whole line of new "coils" but they can pretty much do almost anything. They can run different frequencies or even multiple frequencies. The could be a PI coil. As long as the existing controller software, which is upgradeable, can interface with a new detector/coil the sky's the limit. Most manufacturers would love to sell you three or four $500 metal detectors. The genius of XP is in getting people to buy $500 detectors and you don't even get the rod or control box! You have to pay extra to get those. Makes me wonder if we will see a detector eventually that runs as a phone app. I suspect it will happen, but there needs to be a better wireless connection first as I think the current phone Bluetooth versions may not be up to the task enough for many of us. But then again it may very well be good enough for entry level people. The day is coming I am sure.
  12. I was spaced out, staring out the window with my mouth hanging open,contemplating the vagaries that occur in our lives when I was struck by a revelation. Maybe my detector isn't a P.O.S., maybe it is broken? The problem is my XP Deus is very noisy in All Metal mode. In the highly variable ground of N. California I can not get it to run quiet in AM. The ground grab function does not get an exacting enough GB so I am forced to manually GB the Deus. It will run smooth for a few feet but then start yakking at me. Re-GB and repeat the scenario ad nauseam. Auto tracking is just as noisy. I have found gold with it listening through the noise but it is mentally fatiguing to try to determine a faint target or is it noise? The Discriminate modes run quiet, the machine is a real peach for coin and relic hunting but All Metal mode just sucks and its bringing me down. I know Ray, Scott, Steve and hopefully others on here own a Deus or did. Have your machines exhibited the same behavior? What say you gentlemen? Thanks, Merton
  13. Any one seen the price on the Deus? its down like 3 hundred bucks. Wonder what that is all about? I wonder it the other high end manufactures will be dropping there prices? Deus, 1550.00 add 50 bucks for the full headphones. http://www.metaldetector.com/xp-deus-metal-detector I would like to see Garret ATX come down 300.00....... Ivan
  14. Had mine out in the pouring rain and mud the other day and the control box took a total bath for at least 2 hours strait. Despite the mud and rain she is still running perfect. I see guys buying water proof covers for the control box....I'm gonna keep running mine commando and see what happens... strick
  15. Goldbrick did a superb review of the XP DEUS and his use of it in the field at XP DEUS In The Goldfields I try to keep up with anything that might be of use for gold prospecting. I decided I wanted to be able to speak with some knowledge about the DEUS as regards prospecting, mainly to be able to add it to my Gold Nugget Detector Reviews. And the rule there is I can't review it unless I use it. There is a good lead up thread regarding this at XP DEUS For Gold Prospecting Ron (CA) makes some excellent commentary on that thread that you should take a look at. There is no doubt the XP DEUS breaks new ground in what it means to be a metal detector. Totally wireless, extremely compact, and very lightweight. It has a well deserved reputation for being able to pull good finds out of thick ferrous trash, like around an old burned down cabin. I have used the XP DEUS in downtown parks, in the goldfields, and around an old ghost town. I found some old coins with it, nothing spectacular, though I did find my first Buffalo nickel that I have seen in some time with it. In my opinion the DEUS works a lot of its magic by not only being able to see between closely spaced targets, but by also being inherently biased towards digging targets. The target VDI number accuracy ranges from just ok to very poor. Therefore almost everyone recommends just digging all targets that sound good with the DEUS. You dig more junk, but you also make more good finds. Now the DEUS is very good at what it does, but the reality is if I take any good detector and concentrate on digging all non-ferrous targets including the iffy ones, I will make more good finds, while also digging more trash. This is just good old fashioned common sense metal detecting. The DEUS is really geared towards hunting like that, and it works. Where another detector, when in doubt, might say "don't dig" the DEUS says "Dig!" Combined with its superb target recovery speed this formula brings home the goods. The problem? Not everyone wants to detect like that. I think many of the used units up for sale are by people who thought they were going to get better target id capability than they ended up getting with the DEUS. If you are expecting something with superb ability to identify targets, like the CTX 3030, than the DEUS disappoints. For urban turf detecting it will have you digging a lot of trash. You will make some great finds doing that, but target id is not this units strength, though I do believe that with enough experience and tweaking for a particular user with time that ability can be attained. But it is not going to happen quickly. I just wanted to warn people about that. Me, I love digging most everything so the DEUS way of thinking works for me and it may very well for you also. Just be aware of what you are getting into. OK, gold prospecting. The Goldfield Program is an 18 kHz single frequency VLF all metal prospecting mode. It has a neat buzzy digital sound to it I found pleasant - others may not. I did try and find a gold nugget with the DEUS and sadly I just did not get lucky in that regard. But I did dig plenty of small non-ferrous stuff like small shell casing fragments. The bottom line is I found the DEUS to be a very capable VLF gold prospecting detector, but one that strictly as a VLF nugget detector is unexceptional. It fits right in with most of the mid-frequency VLF detectors in that regard. I have a White's V3i and I just could not get over the parallel. Two very expensive highly programmable metal detectors, both with a Prospecting Mode. The truth in both cases is these detectors were not designed for prospecting. Their main market targets are coin, relic, and jewelry. Prospecting is more the "oh yeah, lets have it do that also" thing that was tossed in just to make a complete package. In the case of the DEUS it was literally added after the fact as an update to the software. What you get in both cases are really cool detectors that a person may very well want to own, and if you own one and apply yourself they can be used for prospecting, and will do a decent job of it. The reality though is they are massive overkill and really do nothing in the way of prospecting any better than a $499 Fisher Gold Bug. If you are shopping for a gold prospecting detector do not think that because these units cost a lot and have a zillion bells and whistles that makes them better prospecting detectors. In my opinion, they just are not. I am not saying they are no good; what I am saying is you should be buying a detector like the DEUS because you want to use it for a lot of other things besides prospecting. If that was the sole purpose in owning it, I would take a pass myself. And I have. Mine has been sold. When it comes to wanting to have a machine with tons of programmability I am happy with my V3i. Pulling good finds out of ferrous trash? Honestly, it has never been an issue for me. I have more stuff to find than I can deal with in that regard, and it is the sort of detecting I spend the least time at anyway. The detectors I normally use prospecting do well enough for me in that regard. The kicker for me personally was what everyone seems to love and rave about with the DEUS. It is totally wireless. The side effect there is everything has a built in rechargeable battery. I plugged in the charger and hooked it up to the coil, the headphones, and the control box. My preference is to be detecting out in the field, have my batteries go dead, slap in a new set of batteries, and get on with business. I am close to being totally standardized on AA batteries for all my detectors and pinpointers, GPS units, etc. The DEUS takes charging things to a whole new level, and I am not that excited by it. It is not that I mind charging stuff. It is that I do not want a dozen chargers each one different in its own way. The coils on the DEUS are literally the detector. Each one is loaded with electronics and a battery, and so they are $400 on up, and right now there are only a few options. I am partial to just unplugging a coil and plugging in another one, and not needing to keep my coils charged. I like lots of coil options for prospecting, especially very small and very large coils, and XP offers neither for the DEUS. Finally, the DEUS, for lack of a better word, just seems dainty. I want to go four wheelin in the mud, and it is like having a french made sports car. For better or worse, I really cringe at the thought of taking that pretty little thing and rubbing my grimy gloves all over the control box. I feel like I need to baby the headphones. Yeah, there are aftermarket ways around that, but the ones that come with the DEUS are - just cute as can be but not made to use and abuse like prospectors use and abuse stuff. The DEUS is very light, but so is a Gold Bug Pro at 2.5 lbs. At the end of the day, add it all up, and if you offered me both for free, I would rather have the Gold Bug for prospecting. This all seems just terrible when I read it again but it is not to take away from the XP DEUS at all as a detector. It simply is a remarkable detector with a well deserved reputation for making finds in trashy areas other detectors leave behind. But my job here is to speak to the prospecting angle, and there is just nothing here that makes me want to use the DEUS to go gold prospecting. My caveats about battery charging and perceived daintiness are personal issues only. If I was back east and this was my main machine and I was coming west for a week to hunt gold - by all means! No need to buy another machine. Or for guys like Ron that really use it for its primary purpose and appreciate its trash handling capability. And want to use it to hunt gold also. There is a real place for a machine like the DEUS. I however, will stand pat with my recommendation for people in the market for a VLF detector primarily for gold prospecting to stay under the $1000 mark. If you have to go over $1000 then start thinking PI detector. I just do not see the extra dollars spent over $1000 on a flagship VLF detector from any manufacturer to be adding anything to the nugget finding capability, and in most cases actually detracting from it. These higher priced units should be looked to first for what they are really designed to do, and only secondarily as gold nugget prospecting detectors. It was a pleasure using the XP DEUS despite how the above sounded. Just a great little detector, and I am very happy to see another entrant in the field offering new and exciting options for us. XP gets very high marks for responding to their customers desires and there are a lot of very happy DEUS owners out there. My best wishes to the people that work at DEUS and my hope is for for their continued success.
  16. Here are three detectors that offer three different ways to do multi-frequency. First up, the detector on the right, the XP DEUS. This detector allows you to choose from one of four different frequencies, and run any single one at a time. You can choose from 4, 8, 12, or 18 kHz. Second, we have the detector on the far left, the Minelab CTX 3030. This detector looks at a range of frequencies and analyzes several at once. Transmitted frequencies is a bit of marketing magic; all that matters is what a detector processes. The CTX 3030 processes two or three frequencies simultaneously, comparing the results with advanced algorithms to deliver target information. There is no option to process single frequencies. Finally, the detector in the middle, the White's V3i. This detector employs three frequencies, and is unique in that it can process and compare results from all three simultaneously, or run any one single frequency. The choices are 2.5, 7.5, and 22.5 kHz. In a nutshell low frequencies are less reactive to ground minerals and produce cleaner signals on coin size high conductive targets. Low frequencies also better discern ferrous from non-ferrous items. High frequencies are more reactive to ground mineralization and have more issues identifying ferrous trash, but respond better to small low conductive items. Frequencies under 10 kHz tend to be "coin frequencies", 10 kHz to 15 kHz is a good "all around frequency range", and over 15 kHz tends to be the realm of prospecting detectors, though higher frequencies are seeing more use now with others attempting to pull small non-ferrous items out of ferrous trash. European hunters looking for small coins and relic hunters looking for bullets and other items are leaning higher frequency these days. Usually choosing a single frequency will deliver the most power and depth. That is why you do not see multi-frequency nugget detectors, and why out of the three detectors discussed here the Deus with its 18 kHz mode and V3i with its 22.5 kHz mode offer better potential as prospecting units than the CTX 3030. Detectors that process multiple frequencies have a clear edge when running on mineralized salt water beaches. A single frequency can handle the mineralization, or the salt effect, but not both at once. Multi-frequency detectors are the preferred solution for salt water beach applications (not counting PI detectors), and so the CTX 3030 and V3i have a clear edge over the Deus in this regard. Multiple frequency analysis can offer superb discrimination capabilities. When people talk about depth on multi-frequency detectors what they are really talking about is accurate target identification at depth. Many detectors will detect deeper than the multi-frequency units, but not while delivering accurate target id results. The Minelab Explorers and CTX are generally acknowledged as being on the forefront in this regard, no doubt due to the highly secret algorithms they employ to deliver target id results. Anyway, the three detectors here have three different ways of handling the options. In theory the V3i offers the best of both worlds - the ability to run any one frequency or three at once. In practice the V3i is so complex few people ever fully master its capabilities but I do think they have the right idea. A much requested idea for the XP Deus, which is updateable via software, is the ability to run multiple frequencies. On salt water beaches at least this offers an indisputable advantage. Presumably an update to the CTX could offer the ability to run a single frequency, but so far Minelab has shown no interest in such options. It does appear that is where we are heading though - detectors that through proper design and software can become most anything the operator desires.
  17. I have a new XP DEUS detector on the way that should arrive next week. I have not been terribly attracted to the unit as initially it was not really a detector with a specific prospecting mode. That changed in version 3.0 since the DEUS can be updated via software downloads and a Gold Field program was added. They are now up to version 3.2 which is getting raves from users. The main DEUS claim to fame is the ability to pull non-ferrous targets out of thick beds of nails. Like an old coin out of a burned down cabin site. Or ancient stuff out of European fields with a couple thousand years of ferrous trash in the soil. The machine was developed in France originally for the European market. But XP does appear to want it all and so have been aiming updates at what US users are looking for. The unit is totally wireless with all components having built in rechargeable batteries. Most people seem to love this but as a prospector it is not turning me on. I wish everything I had would run off AA batteries, rechargeable or otherwise. The machine is ultra light at two pounds however which is indeed very attractive and it folds up nice and compact to boot. The target id function is regarded as being lackluster at this time with many users saying the machine is in effect a very expensive "beep-dig" detector best suited for just digging all non-ferrous signals. You see what it is when you dig it up. That suits me just fine but Tesoro offers similar functionality for far less as beep-dig is their specialty. XP is getting the raves though for having what is currently regarded as the fastest processing ability currently available for working with multiple targets at once and discerning a single good one buried in a pile of bad. XP calls this reactivity which is another word for recovery time and it can be variably set anywhere from 1-5 on the detector, where 5 is so lightning fast the detector sounds like a machine gun running over targets. It is not all perfect as more reactivity/faster recovery time means less depth but it can do wonders where target masking is an issue for other detectors. But back to prospecting. From the XP Metal Detectors website at http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/xp-deus-gold-prospecting "The GOLD FIELD program uses a different detection strategy designed to handle highly mineralized ground containing targets such as gold nuggets. In these ground conditions, small, low-conductive targets are often seen as ground noise or iron, especially when they are deeply buried. To go deeper in these difficult conditions, the GOLD FIELD program uses a true All Metal mode allowing you to accept a whole zone of ground that is usually rejected (Full Range). Rather than rejecting all the ground values below the setting (as on conventional detectors), this new program rejects only the current value of the ground which you have to adjust exactly. To simplify this ground effect adjustment (which is essential in this program), the “pinpoint” touch pad allows you to quickly grab the ground value while pumping the coil to the ground. In this program a few settings are not active or are replaced by others unique to the GOLD FIELD program including: The IAR discrimination (Iron Amplitude Rejection): Adjustable from 0 to 5, IAR is applied only to strong signals (shallow). This avoids the rejection of signals from good targets further away that may sound like ferrous when they are buried in mineralized ground (pg: 10). Immediate sampling of the ground value (Grab) accomplished by simply pressing “Pinpoint” while pumping the coil to the ground. Pinpoint function is deactivated in this program (pg:18/19) Note: The target ID feature is retained when working in the All Metal mode to aid in target identification." Long story short I am working on getting one of these sent my way so I can give it a spin and add to my online review listing of prospecting detectors. The problem with that list is I demand I actually use a machine to review it (crazy idea) and so that really is the basis of all this. I need another VLF detector like I need a hole in the head right now. Sooner or later Steve is having a sale! Until it arrives, the best review I have seen yet is right here on this very forum by goldbrick at http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/104-xp-deus-in-the-goldfields/ It gives me something to look at because for me the only reason to use a VLF detector while prospecting normally is to eliminate ferrous trash. If the DEUS can do this better than existing detecting like a Gold Bug Pro then great. If not, it is a lot of money if something less expensive can do as well or better. At $1899 or $1299 in minimum configuration this is not some $500-$700 VLF. I am not saying it is not a great detector for other uses but that is a lot for a prospecting VLF so it better be special. Kind of like the White's V3i. It has a prospecting mode, but you are paying lots of money for other features you may or may not need. If you need them, great. If not, dedicated units usually serve for less. By the way, the company is XP Metal Detectors, the model is DEUS. Saying XP DEUS is like saying Garrett ATX. DEUS is pronounced day-us
  18. My brother and I took my XP Deus out to the Mojave Desert today to try out the new Goldfield program and to test the GB notch feature. We went to the worst ironstone hell hole I know of to put the Deus to the test. This location is literally carpeted with ironstone. PI's struggle there and it is not somewhere I would ever take a VLF expecting to find nuggets. After I figured out how to GB notch (not covered in the manual that I can see) I set the Deus to program 10 (Goldfield) found a clean piece of ground to GB on (it GBed at 87) then swung the detector for a few minutes around the ironstone patch. It was machine gun audio similar to swinging over a bed of nails. Now what follows is in no way a scientific test, just a couple of prospectors trying to figure out a new machines capabilities. Neither my brother or I are experts with a VLF. Your results in a different location may vary, hell they may vary if you went to the same location. I left the Deus in Factory settings, accessed the GB notch function and started notching as I was swinging above the ironstone. It started notching at GB87. Each successive push of the button adds 1 number above and 1 number below GB87. The upper end stops notching at 90 then each successive push just adds 1 to the lower end. I think it will notch from GB 60-90. When the lower number read 85 most of the signal from the ironstone was gone but there were broken tones similar to ones iron emits when it has been partially discriminated. I notched down to GB80 and the detector was relatively quiet when swinging. The next step was to see if the detector would detect gold in this configuration. Toward that end I had brought some nuggets (2, 4, 14, and 32 grain) in those little round plastic display cases. All nuggets were air tested in the display cases sitting on a granite boulder. I am not going to mention depths achieved as we had no accurate way to measure them. I will say that they roughly paralled a GB Pro with 10" elliptical coil we had brought along. My brothers Pro was set on a discrimination setting of 40 which was the minimum he required to quiet the machine when swung over this HOT ironstone. It was impossible to run it in All Metal Mode at this location. Both machines detected all the nuggets to expected depths when sitting on the granite boulder with the aforementioned settings. The problems arose when we placed the test nuggets on top of or next to the ironstone. Detection depths were drastically reduced. I found that to get better depth I needed to notch at GB 85-90. I also reduced the transmit power from a setting of 2 down to 1 (less swamping of the mineralization) which enabled me to up the sensitivity slightly. This seemed to be the best setting to use to ignore most ironstone and yet be able to best detect the nuggets. We tried all sorts of combinations (different size nuggets next to or on top of different size and/or hotness of ironstone) way to many to enumerate here. Suffice it to say we determined that it was POSSIBLE to run the XP Deus, GB notched at 85-90, and the GB Pro, discrimination set at 40, in this the worst ironstone locale I have ever run across even though the depths attained on the test nuggets were severly impacted. Is it the smart thing to do? Well I wouldn't if I was coming back, I would grab my GPX 4500 and leave the VLFs at home. Seeing as we were already there we decided to detect awhile. I chose a location near an old fire pit thinking no PI guy is going to come within 30' of this place and I was rewarded with about 20 targets, none gold. After we burned out on detecting the ironstone hell we headed for some cleaner dirt about a mile away. I wanted to see how the Deus performed in a more normal setting in regards to the goldfield program and GB notch effectiveness. Upon arriving at the spot I had to change the settings back to what I had settled on earlier as I had failed to save them to a custom program in one of the 8 slots provided for that. When you turn the detector off, any factory program you have tweaked resets to default. The menu tree on the Deus is well set up and very intuitive to learn. This was my 3rd time out with the detector and I have pretty much mastered it. One thing I love about this detector is you can quickly make adjustments to various settings while swinging over a target to maximize it's performance for your current location/conditions. In short order I had made the setting changes so I GBed then started detecting up a small wash. The GB notch seemed to do its job as I observed some of the hot rocks local to the area so turned the notch off/on to double check them. This technique is not "Gods Gift" to VLF prospectors but it is a useful function albeit you do get some broken tones over hotrocks on occasion but they are easily identifiable as such. What was not acceptable was the poor performance of the TID on small targets. Just as the GB Pro has TID numbers in All Metal Mode, so does the Deus. On the Deus it takes a fairly large target (in the world of nugget shooting not coin hunting) at shallow depth for the screen to show any number at all. You have to understand that this machine was not built as a gold machine. It was designed to be a top notch coin and relic machine for the plowed fields and forests of Europe. Any VLF struggles with accurate TID at depth and the designers of the Deus decided rather than provide a TID with questionable accuracy that if the machine did not have a good idea what the conductivity of the target was it would report nothing. This actually makes sense as first and foremost the Deus is a tone machine. When they created the goldfield program I imagine the software designers did not think to change the parameters for TID reporting as I doubt they are gold prospecting in the south of France. Hopefully this will be something they can change when they next upgrade the software. When you purchase a Deus all future software upgrades are free for life. I eventually got disgusted because if I want to dig every target I will bring a PI along so I went and grabbed my GB pro and went back to work. Conclusions - these were two short hunts at very different locations with a new machine that is unfamiliar to me and I am about as dumb as dumb can get when it comes to VLF metal detectors so please don't flame me. The Deus is a great detector. The light weight wireless configuration with blazing fast processor speed will rock your world when it comes to coin and relic hunting. I am impressed by the build quality and thought that went into this machine. With the advent of software version 3.2 it now has the gold field program and GB notch. This was a step in the right direction but the designers need to confer with an expert gold nugget detectorist to get the TID issue up to snuff for prospectors. Once this is taken care of I would think this detector performance wise would be close to the other mid-range hertz gold detectors. As it stands now you will dig way more small iron with the Deus. The GB notch feature could really shine in specific areas littered with hot rocks but more testing needs to be done by the experts in a scientific manner at a number of locations to prove this. The fact that there are no coil or headphone wires to snag on brush is a bonus but the lack of a small elliptical DD coil available restricts where you can use it effectively although the stock 9" round DD seems to be a good coil. This post was in no way intended as a shoot out between the XP Deus and GB Pro. They just happen to be two VLF detectors I own and am slightly familiar with. Regards, Merton XP DEUS Data & User Reviews
  19. An interesting post by Chris Porter on Findmall's Deus Forum with video of Chris recovering nuggets With the Deus.
  20. I had a few hours out with my new Deus today. Picked it up from UPS at 0830 a.m. and I was hunting dirt by noon ;-) I had read the manual 3 times, Andy's Sabsich's book once, and a lot of posts on the internet including watching videos so I had the barest grasp of what this machine will do. This part of the Mojave Desert had very few people in it up until the 1930's and not a large population after so the coin and relic possibilities are slim. I had decided to detect around an old club house that I was certain had been pounded. I am staying in the clubs RV park so I walked out the door and fired the Deus up. I was not to concerned with finding good stuff, I just wanted to learn to navigate the menu tree, settings, and the tones. I started detecting in a fairly clean area then as I familiarized myself with the machine I worked my way towards the club house and into more trash, changing settings over targets to see the effect of different combinations. I ended up only recovering one silver coin, a 1950 quarter that was almost touching a nail and about a bucks worth of clad. The education I received from the Deus was the prize of the day. I used 4 khz to discriminate iron, I did the backwards wiggle to discriminate bottlecaps and to pinpoint. I dug a lot of pulltabs since there wasn't much for coins but plenty of co-located tabs to learn on. Most of my detecting has been gold nugget hunting with PI machines. I have 3 VLF's but don't use them much. I had tried a F75 about 3 years ago and never could seem to master it, to be fair I did not use it much as I preferred my GPX 4500. If it beeps, dig it. I was a little nervous about buying the Deus for coin and relic and ending up with another machine that did not suit me. My fears were unfounded as that Deus is one sweet machine. Although I only have a few hours on it, the programs, tones, and settings all make sense to me instilling confidence that this machine will produce some finds. Regards, Merton
  21. Hi Steve, Thanks for all the excellent info you post on this forum. Your posts here and on Dankowski's forum have piqued my interest in coin and relic hunting once again. I have recently been using my GB Pro and Whites TDI as coin and relic machines around old mining camps. Not too many good finds yet but a lot of fun none the less. I have actually found my best coin with my GPX 4500 while nugget hunting. Anyway, when using the GB Pro I find that detecting in nail pits with disc 26 to 39 (per Nasa Tom's forum) I get a sore neck from watching the TID. If I am at disc 39 I can't just dig all high tones due to the massive amount of lead and brass at these sites. I have been toying with the idea of buying an XP Deus for these activities and assigning tones and/or notching for what I want to recover (site dependent) to get away from reliance on the TID. Now with the release of Version 3.2 that includes the Goldfield program( basically all metal mode and tighter ground balance?) and the ability to notch out some hot rocks in the ground balance range the urge to purchase is VERY strong. This detector since it runs at 18 KHZ, has the new goldfield program, and can GB notch hot rocks, could be a great nugget detector but there is no info on the net I can find. Steve or anyone else, do you have any input or experience hunting small gold nuggets with the XP Deus? Shouldn't it perform somewhere between an F75 and the GB Pro on gold? Regards, Merton p.s. I have a GBII so I don' t care if it recovers fly poop.
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