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  1. I got me a g2+ a month ago but couldn’t use it due to all the snow. I’ve been out with it 4 times now and find that it’s quite a fun and effective detector to use for my main pursuit of relic hunting, along with the Nox and Orx w/ 9” hf. I think it’s a keeper. I bought a sharpshooter coil used but as I like the stock coil I just sold it for what I paid covering fee and shipping so no loss. I’m thinking of the superfly to use as the machine with the biggest coverage profile and depth possibly, and the lightness for sure is appealing. I didn’t care for the 12”x15” equinox coil. So I’m interested in any comments related to the superfly performance especially if on the g2 but if not on the t2 or f75. Price is fair like an added $110 to the invested $ I had on the sharpshooter. It’s not a must have and I don’t do fields and big open areas very often, so the Nox w/ 11” coil is fine really. Just looking for help deciding merits
  2. Hello all, I decided to start a new post from the "Tale of Two Detectors" post, specifically for the G2+! That way, anyone else that bought one, or has one, can also post, for setup and such! I went out yesterday afternoon, seeing how it had been raining all day, and i was tired of being stuck in the house! It was perfect weather to detect, and the tide was falling! The rain made it cool enough to be fairly comfortable in the humidity! The beaches the last couple of weeks have not been good! Sand is still way to soft near the water to find much! And the renurishment sand still pollutes the beach's! But it's exercise, and gets me out of the house to work on my skills with pinky! There was one other guy working south of me, so i headed north of the pier! A walked about a mile with little to show, before i saw some promising erosion! Once getting there, some coins started here and there! But nothing that was going to break the bank! I am getting the hang of the sounds the detector makes, and could decern when to not dig much better this time out! The highlight finds were a nice fishing lure, and a small gold/ silver ring; not sure yet, as it has no discernable mark inside the band, but it cleaned up nice, and is the first ring i found with the G2+! 💍 Also of note, was low tide finger mullet running in the shallows, to avoid being eaten! I walked thru a large school, while detecting! Nature is awesome, and one of the "Treasures" you can't take home in a find's pouch!👍👍
  3. The First Texas 19 kHz series of detectors include the Fisher Gold Bug, Gold Bug Pro, F19, Teknetics G2 and G2+, and the Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro. These detectors are all designed specifically for DD coils. However, a lot of the F70/F75 coils will plug into the 19 kHz models and work, some better, some worse. You can't harm the detector doing this, but the coils may not ground balance properly, or have inaccurate target id. Others may be fine, due to the slop in coil manufacturing tolerances. From this thread we have this commentary by FT engineer Dave Johnson: 1. F75 and F70 searchcoils are interchangeable. 2. T2 coils are their own animal, will not work at all on anything else (or vice versa). 3. F5 uses the "Greek" ("Fratbros") searchcoil series. These are wired the same as the F75/70 searchcoils but are electrically different. Even though some customers have tried searchcoils from one series on a machine designed for the other series and decided that they "work", the factory is not going to say that they "work' because we know there is performance degradation whether or not the customer knows (or even cares) about that. 4. The legacy BH coil series was also used on the Fisher F2 and F4. Although these may plug into F75/70 and Greek/Fratbros machines and actually beep, performance is severely degraded. 5. The 19 kHz machines (Gold Bug and others derived from that platform) are designed specifically to use the DD searchcoils of the Greek/Fratbros series. Depending on the individual searchcoil, a concentric may work fairly well or not at all or anything in between. 6. In general, plugging the wrong searchcoil into a metal detector is not going to cause any damage to the detector although we cannot guarantee a thing like that. Long story short I have this Time Ranger Pro sitting around that I've basically done nothing with but invest in a NEL accessory coil. Back in the day I ran the 13 kHz Detech Ultimate coil and 4" x 6.5" concentric coils from my F75 on my 19 kHz Gold Bug Pro, and they seemed to work fine. But as noted above it is a crapshoot. Anyway, I got to wondering about a small concentric on the TRP, and looked into rounding up the 13 kHz 4" x 6.5" concentric for the F70/F75 to give it a go on the 19 kHz TRP. This is where I was reminded that First Texas has redesigned the housing on some older coils, including the old 4" x 6.5" elliptical. The new design replaces the old design, and it is important to note that scuff covers for the old version do not fit the old version, and vice versa. I ordered one that has a picture of the old design, but frankly I have no idea which of the two coils pictured below will show up. At some point I'll let you all know how this coil runs... or not.... on the TRP.
  4. Hello Steve, I would like to share your experience with Time Ranger Pro. What is your general opinion about the detector and what are the pros and cons. Would you recommended for beach (wet and dry sand) metal detecting? Thanks.
  5. https://www.amazon.com/Teknetics-G2-Pink-Camo-Coil/dp/B00XNUG9LS/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&m=A1PO22ZENZUMS9&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1598937902&s=merchant-items&sr=1-19
  6. Hello all, So, i found myself in a very unusual position this past week of trading a detector, and buying a detector! I just want to preface this by saying, I'm not crazy (hopefully)!! Or on any mind altering substances of any kind!😂 I'm sure many of you saw Gerry of Gerrysdetectors.com looking to sell a brand new White's MXT Pro! Or trade for a used Nox 800! Well, i did the trade!😬 I'm sure there are those of you that think I'm crazy! (All comments and opinion's welcome)! Well, I'll try and answer that puzzle?! I've always liked the old school (not old) detector maker's that i grew up knowing! And I always wanted a Whites! And this was one i liked! I already had a few Bounty Hunters, and a Garrett! But due to my too long hiatus from detecting, never got around to the White's! I figured that they would still be around when i was ready! Well, we all know that story! So i was looking to add a new detector to my AT Pro, and Nox 800! Seemed easy enough, and i had been feeling out all the recent models! Than i saw Gerry's ad, and decided to take a different route! I offered to buy, or trade my 800 for the MXT Pro! He went with the trade, which I'm confident we will both be happy with!🤞 They are shipping past one another as we speak! I felt like i wasn't using the 800 to it's fullest extent! And i also knew that next year i would be selling it anyway, before the warranty ran out! So that was where my mind was at! And i knew the White's supply was drying up relatively fast; and i could always revisit a Nox at a later date! Than i saw The post about the Pinky Camo Technetics G2+!! I didn't think i would find a better price close to this, so Sold!! Another direction change! Again, I could have gotten a newer kid on the block, but again decided a tried and true alternative! That's my story for now! I welcome all comments and suggestions! Coil and accessory suggestions, etc... for both detectors! Tell me what you all think!! And if they were bad decisions, it's all Steve H's fault!! I found both of these on his forum!!😂🤣(kidding Steve)! Thanks all for your input! And to Gerry and Steve, for furthering my detector addiction! 👍👍
  7. I remember seeing in ads when these hit the scene that they had 2 processors in them. Now I do not see anything about that anymore. Does anyone remember this?
  8. I have to admit to being an elitist snob. Way back decades ago I formed the impression of Bounty Hunter as being low cost, almost junk. Plus some of their physical designs are kind of laughable. That did change over the years but it came in useful when I was a detector dealer and Walmart came to town. Bounty Hunter was the "Walmart Brand" and so when people asked about them I went with the flow. "That's just the low end Walmart stuff - you can do better than that." It worked, and mainly because lots of people thought that way. First Texas eventually purchased Bounty Hunter and has been sliding variants of some Fisher models into the Bounty Hunter lineup. I've always liked the First Texas 19 kHz models, and when the F19 showed up in new Bounty Hunter clothes at with a lower price I finally bit. There is not much to say about the detector itself, since it is just a Fisher F19 or Teknetics G2+ in a different package These are well known models with a long track record, so no need for me to do some kind of new detector review. Long story short I always wanted a F19/G2+ but thought they were overpriced, at one point costing more than an F75, and in fact many online dealers are still selling the F19 for $799. The new price lower price at $399 and the blue/black color scheme got me over the hump. Interesting note. The red bottom of the stock coil is not a coil cover, it is the actual bottom of the coil! No scuff cover is included but arm rest strap and a couple velcro coil cable straps are included. I ordered a new NEL 3.5" x 6.5" DD coil to go with the new detector. It did come with the scuff cover. I as much got this to run the coil as the detector as they are a good match in dense iron/trash. Total weight with NEL 2 lbs 9.5 ounces. The bottom line is Bounty Hunter is slowly changing and there are definitely a few of their models worth a look these days. I'm still a little amazed I own a Bounty Hunter, but fact is it's a nice little unit and I like it. If nothing else I think it's a sharp looking detector. Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro Data & Reviews Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro with stock 7" x 11" DD Time Ranger Pro with NEL 3.5" x 6.5" DD "Snake" search coil Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro Features
  9. I just noticed that bounty hunter has a newer unit out the time ranger pro. Looks like an F19 or G2. I am sure it has the same specs as the others as well.
  10. OK new comparison and probably the last one for me. Doing this one because Monte made a comment on another forum about the Apex needing to have iron audio off in order for it to perform better on the nail board test. I thought I would throw the F19 into this video since it's in the price range of the Apex. IMO the Apex is just another choice in the $250-450 price range and it's going to come down to the features and performance you want as to which metal detector you chose. Like Steve, I feel like it's closest competition is the Vanquish 540 at $369 and to me the Apex isn't worth the extra money. Funny I should say that because I don't have the Vanquish anymore.
  11. It looks like the F19 - what I evaluate very positively ... Is there any closer information? Link to the leak. Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro metal detector - new for 2020
  12. There are three versions of the First Texas 19 kHz circuit for sale at many retailers. One is based on the original Gold Bug Pro model, sold with various coil options, and includes the now discontinued Teknetics G2. There is also a basic Gold Bug version with no manual ground balance, the bottom dollar variant. The third version is a later design that added features to the Gold Bug Pro, the result being the Fisher F19. This is now also being sold with various coil options. The F19 is also available under the Teknetics label as the G2+, and now just released under the Bounty Hunter label as the Time Ranger Pro. To reiterate, the Gold Bug Pro and G2 versions are the same circuit board, the only difference between the models are coil and rod options plus cosmetic differences. The same goes for the F19, F19 Ltd, G2+, and new Time Ranger Pro. The same circuit board with different coil and rod options. It is interesting then that the Gold Bug DP, the Gold Bug Pro with 7" x 11" coil sells for $200 more than the more capable Time Ranger Pro. "How can this be," you wonder? The power of name brand and a name, plain and simple. Fisher has a name equated with more expensive detectors, and the Gold Bug name carries it's own cachet. The Bounty Hunter name is usually for lower price models. Welcome to Marketing 101. Based on comparative capability I’d say the Gold Bug Pro is more like a $349 detector these days, so it’s fetching quite a premium. Guide To Gold Bug Versions Gold Bug Pro / G2 versus F19 / G2+ click or double click for larger versions.... Fisher Gold Bug DP and Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro Gold Bug Pro and Time Ranger Pro features comparison Gold Bug Pro and Time Ranger Pro controls
  13. This is my first post and I'm still relatively new to detecting. Wondering if the size of my nonferrous pieces is indicative that I would miss gold. This was from about 6 hours with a Fisher F19 that I got on sale. The California ground is annoying in that it needs balancing every few steps. Anything above gain 60/100 and >0 threshold would be way too chirpy, I think that indicates decently hot ground. Got a really good feel for negative rocks, though the tones with Iron sound an awful lot like everything else. Discriminate mode blocked a lot of the chatter but it made me worry some about missing targets. Note that I did pan good areas nearby and take samples, none of which had even the tiniest speck so I doubt I actually missed any. I'll need to take longer trips either north or east where the better claims are.
  14. (Here's a thread from November 2019.) They may be planning on releasing it for the 2020 Northern Hemisphere warm (spring+summer+fall) seasons. There are going to be a lot of disappointed detectorists if this doesn't meet the "under $400" category, and preferably under $300. Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro Data & Reviews Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro metal detector - new for 2020
  15. Click or double click for larger version.... NEW! from BOUNTY HUNTER Time Ranger Pro metal detector Backlit Display FeTone™, Adjustable Iron Audio Enhanced V-Break®, Tone Discrimination System Notch Mode with Adjustable Notch Width Computerized GROUND GRAB® One Touch Ground Balance with Manual Override Unmatched Target Separation in Iron and Trash Continuous Ground Condition Readout: Ground Phase value indicates type of mineralization, Fe3O4 graphic indicates amount of mineralization Ground balance all the way to Salt Static All Metal Pinpoint with Depth Indicator 19 kHz Operating Frequency Ultra-Lightweight, only 2.5 lbs. (1.1 kg) Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) $449 Internet Discount Price $399 Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro Color Flyer
  16. For the same money (roughly), similar original manufacturing date and it has all the simple features like target ID in all metal, more tones and one button mode changes that are missing on the F19/Time Ranger, I would rather have a Makro Racer 2. It has many more features that are not on any FTP detector that I know of. That's why I bought one used. I wanted to compare it to my F19 and Patriot. I do wish it was 19 kHz and had a little bigger iron range. Otherwise, it is just as sensitive on small gold with the smaller coils in all my testing as my F19 and much more sensitive than the Patriot at roughly the same frequency. Jeff
  17. Got a buddy of my son that is looking for a relic, coin detector. He has no experience and would like to stay under $500 Seems an F19 might fit the bill.... anyone used one? Pros/cons?
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    Fisher F19 Owner's Manual, 4.26 MB pdf file, 40 pages Fisher F19 Data & Reviews Fisher F19 - Steve's Review First Texas (Fisher) Forum
  19. I've wondered for years about how the F19 would compare to the Minelab 705 with the high frequency coil? Love to read anything on this topic. Thanks.
  20. Thought I'd throw this out there. I just heard about special fall pricing on the F19 and G2+ units. I followed up with a dealer about a G2+ model and got the response below. Bottom line is the pricing is too good to pass up and I bought a G2+LTD green camo unit. Your favorite dealer should be able to put a big smile on your face as the $449 is MAP pricing. I got mine from Craig at Show Me Treasure. He made me Happy Happy Happy. Anyway....this is too good not to share. You basically get a GoldBug Pro with enhanced Disc features. It is impossible to go wrong with this deal. HH Mike LIMITED TIME FALL SPECIAL! We are offering special pricing that will start Oct. 1 and run through Nov. 30. The special prices apply to our G2+ family of detectors. These offers are only for 2 months so don’t wait! We are accepting orders now. G2+ SPECIAL You can now buy all three flavors of the G2+ for the same low price! Take advantage of this amazing price before the offer expires! We have limited quantity on some camo units, first come, first served. MAP G2+ $449 G2+19LTD $449 G2+19LTD-P $449
  21. First Texas is the company that owns the Bounty Hunter, Fisher, and Teknetics metal detector brands. KInd of like Chevy and GM putting out similar models under different brands you can often find similar Fisher and Teknetic models. My choice for an affordable high performance all around VLF detector with an emphasis on gold prospecting has been and continues to be the Fisher Gold Bug Pro. Lightweight, inexpensive, hot on gold, and good and dealing with dense ferrous trash. Great for nugget detecting, plus relics, coins, jewelry, etc. Right now the Fisher Gold Bug Pro with 5" round DD coil sells for $649 online. The main problem with the Gold Bug Pro is it comes with the 5" round coil, which is a great little coil for sniping small areas, but no good for covering large areas. You can also buy the Gold Bug Pro with an 11" x 7" DD coil - it is the exact same detector but they call it the Gold Bug DP to indicate it comes with the larger coil. It also tacks $50 onto the price and so you see it online at $699. The problem even then is I think perhaps the best coil for all around nugget detecting with the Gold Bug Pro is the 10" x 5" elliptical. Great all around sensitivity, covers ground well, and pokes around in nooks and crannies without getting hung up like an open design coil. The problem? Fisher does not sell the Gold Bug Pro with just the 10" x 5" coil as stock. The only way to get it is as part of a dual coil package. That's fine but guess what - the price goes up another $50 and so you see the dual coil package advertised at $749 online. You can find more information on various Gold Bug versions past and present at this thread. It turns out the Gold Bug Pro is a great relic detector (Best Ever Made! according to Fisher) but the name was a problem. Overseas especially Gold Bug Pro is an odd name due to the "Bug" part not translating well, but it also says the machine is a gold prospecting detector and not a relic detector. Fisher sidestepped this initially by coming out with the Teknetics G2. This is the exact same detector as the Gold Bug DP above but with a different rod and grip assembly. OK, long lead in! Fisher took the 19 khz Gold Bug Pro and added a few features and called it the Fisher F19. This machine is marketed as a relic detector, but it is still the same 19 khz Gold Bug Pro under the hood. Extra features include: Adjustable volume, both master volume and ferrous volume. The Gold Bug Pro runs at max volume at all times. No volume control built in. The F19 adds a normal 1 - 10 volume control. It also adds a secondary 1 -10 control that only affects the ferrous 0 - 39 region of the id scale. So you can have gold nugget make a loud beep but a nail make a very soft ground. This is great when working in lots of ferrous trash as it lowers the barrages of ferrous signals. The Gold Bug Pro has a very loud external speaker, and the ability to lower the volume when working without headphones is welcome. Red meter backlight. The meter can be lit for low light conditions, with the red tone chosen to not affect your eyes low light capturing ability (same as in aircraft cockpits). The backlight is adjustable and can be turned off. Notch discriminate. A discriminate "window" can be created of variable size, and set to either "notch out" or "notch in" any certain segment of the target id scale. For instance a certain pesky pulltab reading can be individually blacked out. The Gold Bug Pro lacks this ability. But here is the big one - the F19 comes standard with the desired 10" x 5" elliptical DD coil! The catch is that the Fisher F19 normally sells for $799 though it has seen recent price reductions in some versions to $699. Still, at that price I still have in the past recommended the F19 as an option to the Gold Bug Pro due to the stock coil and extra features. Fisher Gold Bug Pro Owners Manual Fisher F19 Owners Manual First Texas just went ahead and made this all a real no-brainer. Until the end of November or until stocks run out you can now get the F19 for only $449. That is less than a Gold Bug Pro or even basic Gold Bug model sells for. For anyone interested in a Gold Bug Pro, this is a real bargain and an opportunity to pick up the extra features of the F19 at an actual savings over a Gold Bug Pro. Finally, the Teknetics G2+, which is exactly the same machine as the F19 but with a different rod assembly and coil (11" x 7" DD), can also be had now for only $449.
  22. Hello everyone.----Steve, I respect your input & opinions--always have!----Here's a couple of questions I have for you.---Considering detector performance---With the Nokta Impact running at 20 kHz and the G2+/F-19 with their 19 kHz---IYO, which one of these detectors would give the best performance for hunting for (smallish) gold?-----Also, there has been a lot said (hype?) about the Impact with its 5, 14 & 20 kHz frequencies being able to replace other detectors running in that range.---A sort of "one for all" (if you will).-----Do you feel that could truly be the case?-------I said two questions---here's another one! What is your "overall" opinion of the Nokta Impact?-------Thanks--------------Del
  23. Is there any usable difference with the Teknetics G2+ when used for nugget hunting?
  24. When the Fisher F19 was first announced, the official flyer showed it in a standard black and gold color scheme. Then two "Limited Edition" camo versions were announced, green camo, and pink camo. There never yet has been an actual black and gold version you could buy. Frankly, I am not a fan of the camo. Mainly because you pay extra for it and I am not willing to pay extra just for a different paint job. So I was happy in January when Fisher announced: "The special camo used on the F19LTD was ordered in limited numbers and we are nearing the end of stock on those parts. New part number, F19 will replace the camo version and have a standard black finish with a stock white coil and be available at a lower cost. If you are a fan of the camo version, don’t wait too long, when they are gone, they are gone forever. Here are the prices for the F19: MSRP $799" That is $50 less than the camo version which has a MAP price of $799 so this black and gold version has a MAP price of $749. Only problem seems to be that the limited supply of camo units never seems to run out? I have yet to see anyone advertising the black and gold units for sale. Why do I even care? Because the F19 comes with the 10" x 5" coil stock, which you can only get as an accessory on the Gold Bug Pro. The Gold Bug Pro Dual Coil package with 5" round coil and 10" x 5" coil is $749. Now granted you get two coils, but I think you are better off getting the F19 with 10" x 5" coil instead for $749 because of the extra features like backlight, iron tone volume, notch discriminate, etc. I can't swear this makes it any better at finding gold but overall it is just a better all around detector than the Gold Bug Pro and getting rid of the camo makes the F19 at $749 the same price as the Gold Bug Pro dual coil package, also at $749. So do you want two coils, or extra features? The best way to learn the exact differences between the Gold Bug Pro and F19 is to study the owners manuals carefully. Fisher Gold Bug Pro Owners Manual Fisher F19 Owners Manual
  25. The Fisher 5x10 DD coil hasn’t been my most favorite coil because, in my mind, it always seemed to be lacking something. I have suddenly found myself owning several different higher frequency detectors, each equipped with a 5x10 or 6x10 DD coil. As a result I have decided to spend some time bench marking this particular coil size. Is the Fisher 5x10 DD coil really lacking something or is its performance in line with other brands similar size and type coils. Since my 5x10 DD coil came with my Fisher F19, I have elected to stay with higher frequency detectors for my bench marking. Nothing lower than 15 kHz. This allowed me to use comparable detectors and coils; the F19 with 5x10 DD, the Lobo SuperTraq with 5x10 DD, the DFX with 6x10 Eclipse. The targets consist of a modern nickel, a clad dime, a very thin (the band is perhaps 5/32” wide by maybe a 1/16" thick), 18K white gold ring that a penny will fit perfectly inside, and two halves of a fired .177 lead pellet. I cut the pellet in two, separating it into the solid head, and the hollow tail. All detectors were tested in Disc mode: The F19 operates at 19 kHz and fitted with the stock 5x10 DD coil. The settings were Disc at 40, no notch, Volume at default, Sensitivity maxed out at 100. At this setting there is an ongoing threshold like response at fringe depth that can be heard in air tests for a couple of more inches than what I recorded. I do not consider this to be a true audio response and I ignored this response. The responses I used to measure with were what I considered a real audio response. In other words, it approximated a beep type response rather than a threshold like response. The Lobo Supertraq operates somewhere above 18 kHz and fitted with the stock 5x10 coil. There are apparently two versions out with slightly different operating frequencies above 18 kHz. I do not know which one mine is but I am assuming it is 18.75 kHz. Settings were Disc at 2 to reject iron, Normal Soil setting, and Sensitivity at 10. I did not go into the Max Boost Range. Threshold settings play no role in Disc mode. The Lobo ST has a great audio response at fringe depth. As you review the results, keep in mind that the Lobo ST still had the availability of the Max Boost sensitivity settings available for use. Note that the dime response is a little bogus as I have the preset ground balance in Disc mode set negative but it still shows coil performance similarities. The DFX was tested in the 15 kHz single frequency Prospecting mode with the 6x10 Eclipse with Silent Search turned on to remove the threshold response. Pre-Amp Gain at 3, AC Sensitivity at 64, tone Id turned on and iron discriminated out. As with the Lobo, there is additional sensitivity available for use. The AC settings were rather tame but I wanted a rock solid response. The results of the bench marking told me that the 5x10 DD coils tested share the same basic performance and that my Fisher 5x10 DD is operating as it should be. This has increased my trust and understanding of the coil. Or should I say I feel more comfortable using the coil now. I'll add the GoldStrike 5x10 DD coil results to the mix tomorrow. HH Mike
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