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  1. Well, after updating the software and finding time for a session on the seabed to try out the new scuba program I created, although I have nothing to say about the stability in general, I have encountered a random flaw that occasionally interrupts the audio. Specifically, it happens just after an interference cancellation, or sporadically after changing something between reactivity or sensitivity. In short, you can't change the parameters much otherwise they are indigestible😂. However by rebooting I solved it. Aluminum by the ton and a beach among the most desperate, but at least the conditions were perfect for diving 🙏
  2. As the title says this is a heads up for those that detect with headphones but hate having their ears covered, (that's ME), LOL I have been testing several different sets of earbuds and Bone Conduction Headphones, I love the Bone Conduction headphones but both earbuds and the bone conduction phones do not work properly when detecting with the threshold activated in the Legend every pair of Bone Conduction phones and every pair of earbuds I have tried just would not work correctly with the threshold active in the Legend, (and there is a reason they did not work correctly), but when using the supplied wireless headphones that comes in the Legend pro pack the threshold would work flawlessly, The reason being is the supplied headphones for the Legend are Aptx LL Low Latency headphone the LL is the key to the headphones working correctly. Most all earbuds and bone conduction headphones are Low Latency but they are not Aptx LL Low latency, earbuds and bone conduction phones are just standard Aptx 5.0,5.1,5.2,and the latest is 5.3 these are low latency but not LL Low Latency I have tried many pairs of earbuds at least 12 different pairs, and two pairs of Bone conduction headphones which I do like the two bone conduction headphones the best out of all I tried but, I recently tried a different type of Neck band speaker and I am quite impressed by them so I figured I would share my findings Just received my Avantree Taurus Neck Band speaker and I will say I love these things They are actually APTX Low Latency LL so when you connect them to the Legend you will see the two little LLs by the headphone icon in the Legend screen, just like the wireless headphones that came with the Legend, had no issues with them pairing with the Legend, I hate wearing headphones that cover my ears other earbuds and the bone conduction phones the two little LL is not present by the headphone Icon when connected so they are not true Low Latency LL connections, the Avantree are true Aptx LL Low Latency and work just like the factory headphones that comes with the Legend My main complaint with earbuds and even the Bone Conduction phones which I have been using never would work correctly when running the Legend with a threshold but the Avantree Taurus works great when running with the threshold activated on the Legend I have been on a search for a pair of phones that were actually Aptx Low Latency LL, and these Avantree Taurus are exactly as Avantree states. They are a little different but well worth the try,in my opinion, and yes people will hear what your detector is doing,and saying here is a link to the Avantree Taurus https://avantree.com/torus-nb05-bluetooth-wearable-speaker
  3. After snatching a couple of hours at the day off for a session, I'm back to pissed off today. The Bh-01 headset to which an earpiece had exploded was barely able to transfer sound even at volume 9. Eventually with a gentle current but a constant wave motion, I was forced to look at the screen to figure out what was going on under the coil. That said I am about to set about building a piezo headphone and end of story🙄. I kindly ask anyone who has already discussed this topic, to direct me to the post link for the male connector and positive/negative pole diagram. I saved screenshots a while back, but can't find the folder on my pc. Thank you all in advance🙏
  4. My esteemed pal Keith Southern is a virtuoso of metal detector audio. Not only is he a highly accomplished and respected detectorist and hunter, but he deeply understands and appreciates the audio languages that they speak. I once was so inspired by his insight that I began to link it up with some very limited knowledge of information theory, dim remnants of the "Observe, Orient, Decide, Act" air combat theory as defined by John Boyd which us dumbass USAF Pilot Trainees struggled to grasp, and a couple of glasses of wine and came up with this... The purpose of a metal detectors user interface is two-fold. The first purpose is to allow user control of operating parameters. These include all the well known things like sensitivity, ground balance, discrimination, audio characteristics and visual display characteristics. The second purpose is to inform the user of what the detector is extracting from the target signal. The extremely faint electric currents induced in the target are processed in the detector and presented to the user by audio or visual means. This target feedback information - through the operator’s ears and eyes has one purpose - to cause a “Change of State” of the operator. There is no observation unless there is a change in state of the observer. The energy to change that state comes from the phenomenon being observed. The energy supplied by the phenomenon to change the state of the observer is no longer part of the phenomenon that was being observed. Keith reported that he had good results in specific circumstances with this detector due to its rich audio feedback. The energy given off by in ground targets was analyzed by the detector and presented as a complex audio signal through the headphones. The result was a “change of state” of the operator - Keith. This caused him to either dig or not dig various targets. He was pleased with the results based on his decades of experience hunting similar targets under similar circumstances. There is nothing to suggest that the largely analog single frequency circuitry resulted in inferior performance to more “advanced” machines utilizing digital signal processing instead of analog hardware signal processing. The absence of any visual user information doesn’t really have any relevance as long as the audio information is “conclusive” - that it caused the correct “change of state” of the operator. In the case of a metal detector it would mean desired targets dug, undesirable targets ID as unlikely to be worth digging. To better understand where Keith is coming from in his love of a complex audio interface have a look at his post from December 2016 titled “The Future of detector design will be Sonically aimed” [www.dankowskidetectors.com] Rick Kempf
  5. I've got a Viet Nam era veteran buddy that got Bluetooth hearing aids (very nice) from the VA. He was asking the other day about connecting his aids via Bluetooth to his "Nox 800. Is there a Bluetooth transmitter that plugs into a "normal" headphone output jack on the 'Nox? Jim
  6. I ran a title search inquiry here for “earbuds” in hope of finding low latency Aptx wireless earbuds. I read most of it from 2018 forward. It appears this item is very difficult to find. I have searched Google, ebay, Amazon. No luck. I do not want a neck band or any type of wire leading to the earbud. I am considering a new X-Terra Pro or a used Equinox 800. I want earbuds because of the heat and awareness of my surroundings. I have found multiple Aptx LL transmitters that will work on the Xterra Pro but no Aptx LL earbuds. If I go with a used 800 I can escape the proprietary Bluetooth of the Pro and the 700 and 900 but still need Aptx LL earbuds. Is there a solution for this. Something I have missed? Thanks…
  7. This topic often confuses people and because the details are hidden within specific detector threads people are not aware of nitty gritty details that can help you select the right 3rd party accessories to pair with the wireless audio capability of your detector. First post will provide a link to a great article that provides some background information on BT Audio and explains and tries to clarify some of the terminology that gets thrown around which tends confuse people when they are looking for compatible low latency wireless hardware that will work with their detector: https://www.audioreputation.com/bluetooth-audio-codecs/ This link from a manufacturer of low latency BT hardware explains latency differences associated with some common codecs: https://avantree.com/knowledge-base/general-different-bluetooth-codecs-latency/ To be continued...
  8. I am interested in changing out the headphones on my Excal. My intended use is diving down to a max of 30 ft. Would you all recommend a hardwired connection or a CTX-style connector? I can see advantages to both. With the CTX connector I can try different types of phones for underwater, but the hardwired connection may be less likely to leak. Any advice? Thank you!
  9. I just got a SP01 from Rob. Anyone have a favorite filter setting (1,2 or 3)or setup? I’m using it on a GPX 4500
  10. Wow, I wish I had done this sooner! I got a Garrett WR-1 wireless module for my Axiom some time back, but never seemed to get around to giving it a spin. I use the external speaker most of the time, and the rare times I needed headphones I've preferred to plug in my Sun Ray Pro Gold wired phones. Not only do the Sun Ray have better audio quality than the Garrett MS-3 wireless phones included with the Axiom, but I never need to worry if they are charged. They are always in my kit ready to go. Most importantly, I like dual volume controls due to hearing loss in my right ear. I can use phones without dual controls, but prefer them when I have them. Let's call my 150 ohm Sun Ray Pro Gold as a 10 rating for audio quality. I'd rate the 8 ohm Garrett wireless MS-3 as included with the Axiom as an 8, just very good, not bad, not great. They actually are a good match for the external speaker on the Axiom, as it is hard to really say the headphones sound much different than the speaker, other than being closer to the ear and having sound exclusion properties for background noise. So again, I prefer the external speaker for most use because it has a LOT of volume. For anything else I preferred my Sun Ray Pro Gold. The only problem there is I do want to be wireless with my headphones. Being wired to the detector is a real pain, especially when I put it on the ground. Enter the Garrett WR-1 wireless module, a quite compact receiver for the proprietary Garrett Z-Lynk audio built into the Axiom. Z-Lynk is a 17ms high speed wireless option, much faster than Bluetooth, and being proprietary to Garrett, pairs instantly. Garrett even has a wireless version of their pinpointer that works seamlessly with the system - very nice! The only issue I have seen in that like many 2.4 Ghz systems the signal does not penetrate solid objects well. If you experience audio drop out with the MS-3, pay attention to the detector positioning when it is happening. Reversing the headphone on your head may help, as will setting the detector away or more ahead of you when it is on the ground. I just gave the WR-1 a test run, and I love it! I was worried that maybe the audio quality issue with the MS-3 was related to the wireless signal itself not transmitting the full audio spectrum. Luckily that is not the case. My Sun Ray Pro Gold sound every bit as good plugged into the WR-1 as they do plugged into the detector itself. This is really good news. It means you can go wireless on the Axiom with any headphone you want. I have a couple sets of wired Bose earbuds I really like for hot weather. They work great with a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter - the WR-1 is 1/4" unlike many Bluetooth wireless modules, since it was made especially for metal detector headphone options. Best of all, the volume can be controlled by the Axiom itself since the ear buds have no volume control. Just like the Sun Ray, they sound great with the WR-1, better than the MS-3. If anyone does have issues with headphone/detector positioning and audio drops with the MS-3, this eliminates that completely since you can place the receiver box anywhere. I just stick it in my pocket, but it can go anywhere you want it that the detector cord will reach. The icing on the cake is Garrett makes a WT-1 Z-Lynk transmitter than can turn any detector into a Z-Lynk compatible detector when used with the WR-1. I am ditching my slower Bluetooth transmitter box and getting a WT-1 for use with my other detectors. It's a great system, see the details here for all the various options. And yes, the Garret wireless pinpointer will pair simultaneously to the WT-1 so you get wireless audio from both the detector and the pinpointer through your headphones of choice. I'm saving the best for last. The WR-1 with USB charging cable is only $67.95 and for anyone wanting to convert other detector to Z-Lynk, the WT-1 transmitter with 1/4" adapter and USB charging cable is also only $67.95. Both can be bought together as a package with a nice carry case for $140.95 Anyway, I am totally sold on the WR-1 with my own choice of headphones as being the only way to go, and for any detector that needs it, I will use the WT-1 also. My old White's DFX just went wireless!
  11. When I enter the salt water and the earphone plug / jack just enters the water I get a positive audio response. This is the standard 1/8-inch stereo jack that is directly connected to the pod. If there is a little wave action touching the jack on and off, it responds accordingly. It has stopped me in my tracks thinking it is a target. Once it is fully submerged, it is fine. I tried 2 different headphones T. Eisenhower and the ML Underwater phones. So, no problem with the phones. Never happened using these on the Nox. The higher I am running my sensitivity the more noticeable it is. I presented this to Tom and this was his answer... Once the plug 'wicks'........ the plug will have a film of saltwater on it. Then..................... the next time the plug gets hit with saltwater........ even only the rubber/insulation part of the plug....... it is still "saltwater electrically connected" to the metal part of the 1/8" stereojack........ and you may incur audio squawking. I seem to recall having this with a MXT. I'll look into this on the Manticore. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this? Thanks Bob K
  12. 1st of all I have tried the factory reset and that hasn't helped. The headphones are fully charged. When I try to turn them on sometimes I get a continuous flashing red light. Now when I am trying it I am getting red and blue lights flashing simultaneously. I get no sound from them except when I turn them off I hear them shut down.. Not sure what to do I sure hate to send them back to Minelab
  13. Is it possible to pair wireless earbuds directly to the Axiom for hot weather use? Or is the wr-1 and corded earbuds the only/best option?
  14. hi, recently got my 1st detector the nox 600, and still getting to grips with my new toy and hobby, i am having trouble with getting multiple sets of wireless headphones to show the + for the low latency, even though they are models that other users seem to have no trouble with i have now tried multiple ear buds, and just bought a set of August EP650 which are supposedly aptx-ll, I bought these after reading many threads online, and watching a few videos and the EP650 seemed a popular and financially great buy and all ive seen and read do indeed show this model headphone connected to the equinox range and have the +, so bought them i did, they pair perfectly fine as expected, but do not give the + symbol at all ,tried factory preset/default upon starting up the nox, but same outcome, i probably now have spent on multiple earbuds and headphones more than i would have to get the minelab wireless module ect haha, anyhow could someone possibly shed some light on possible reasons the EP650 just dont wanna play nice on my machine, my nox does have most upto date firmware, but unsure that could cause any issues, but as im new to this, im thinking all possible scenarios , im starting to go a little insane over it
  15. Hello fellow members. I have been looking at these for awhile now and was curious if anyone out there has tried them? Personally I am waiting for their Rattler version because I prefer situational awareness that is scheduled for release this spring to use with my Deus 1 and 2 and possibly a second pair for the NOX 800.
  16. If detector companies would offer matching earbuds with bluetooth or their own wireless technology, would you buy them? I have created some ideas in Photoshop (not real products!). See bellow.
  17. I'm looking for some advice and strategies to improve hearing those faint gold whispers in the field, missed by many nugget hunters, by using quality 150 - 300 ohm headphones vs Bose QC 20 Noise Cancelling and Etymotics earbuds. I found some limited info on this forum by searching and with improvements in technology was looking for some updated suggestions: I have mild Reverse Slope Hearing Loss in both ears and tinnitus in one ear, that starts at 1000 HZ, drops down in those lower bass frequencies and have trouble hearing whispers. I wear hearing aids that help alot for normal conversation, but don't want to wear them while detecting. I like my Sunray Gold Pro headphones alot and also have the Steelphase SP01 signal booster. I want to be prepared for an upcoming trip to Quartzsite, AZ. JP, Condor and others have recommended using earbuds, what are your thoughts & tips on how to brighten those very faint gold signals. Thanks, Bill
  18. I rarely use my Dual Field or Surf PI detectors anymore but it never fails - when I want to the rubber slider thingy's break on the ear cups. I have bought and installed replacements twice and same deal. I wonder if someone perhaps has done a 3D printer solution.
  19. This post is a mixed bag and some parts pertain to many detectors. However, I'm posting it in the Equinox sub-forum as I know all of it has relevance to the 800 model -- one which I own. Maybe it will apply to other Equinox models and the new Manticore -- we'll find out soon. Introduction: The Minelab Equinox 800 (and 600 model) has four audio output options -- 1) internal speaker, 2) 3.5 mm headphone socket, 3) Bluetooth low latency APTX transmitter, and 4) proprietary very low latency transmitter. The 800 model comes with a proprietary very low latency receiver (WM08 module) with 3.5 mm headphone socket plus the ML80 low latency APTX wireless headphones. I've used all four audio methods, option 3 only with the supplied ML80's. My strong preference is the very low latency channel with WM08 module and SunRay Pro Gold (standard headphone with 1/4" plug -- note this is not the special 'CTX3030' headphone set). Yes, I'm one of those people who claims to notice the lag in the Bluetooth LL APTX. I've used the WM08+Pro Gold combo probably 2/3 of my time with the Eqx. I have a set of Bose wired earbuds (no longer made) for summertime use and most of the remaining 1/3 of the time has been with those. Like most I prefer not to be tethered to the detector. I also don't like the muffled sound of the ML80's (nor their latency) and have used them maybe 8 hours total. Solution: I'm about set with the WM08+Pro Golds or Bose earbuds for future hunts with the Eqx 800. However I've been using a 3.5 mm male to 1/4" female adapter between the WM08 and the headphones. I think I've burned through two of those already. The first (cheapest) one sucked from the get-go. The second (moderate cost) lasted me 4 years (over 700 hours) but eventually the contact made by plugging in its 3.5 mm male into the WM08 got flaky. I still had to use shims for the 1/4" Pro Gold male to adapter's 1/4" female to get good contact there but that never failed. (I did have to go from 3 washers to 4 at some point.) Here is a photo of that setup: Note the four nylon washers. My first goal was to eliminate this intermediary (eventually flaky) kluge by replacing the 1/4" plug with a 3.5 mm plug and doing away with the adapter and shims (washers). To give myself the option of plugging this easily into the Eqx's 3.5 mm socket (or other detectors with 3.5 mm socket on the side of backside of its control module) I chose to go with an angle plugged. Easy, right? Nope. Here are some options, all of which I tried: The one in the center was my first choice. It didn't work with the Eqx 800 control unit socket (more on that shortly). The one on the left did, but it's very difficult to implement due in part to having to bend the cable 90 degrees. Secondly, it is rather poorly made (Amazon reviews rail against it) as it is difficult to solder to without melting the inline insulators. Finally, the threaded aluminum joints are quite short and easily cross-threaded. Inevitably even if you get everything soldered correctly you end up twisting the cable attaching all the pieces, weakening the individual wires of the cable where they are soldered. I'm not the best solderer but I'm not the worst either. I suspect a 95th percentile solder expert could get this to work. That's not I. I finally settled on the less than ideal (for backside module mounting) straight jack on the right. OK, why didn't my first choice (middle device above) work? Here is a photo of that plugged into the back of the Eqx800: Note how the chrome straight shaft is contacting the metal ring of the control module's entry port. The height of that ring (and/or the depth of the active socket) prevents proper contact of the plugs three sections. No go. I only found one plug that worked (there may be more) -- the left one pictured earlier. Here an illustration of that: As mentioned, I was unable to get a satisfactory installation of this plug so I went with the straight shank option (rightmost jack ealier). Here is the finished cable end: Shown is a 3.5 mm female to 1/4" male adapter which is now required for some of my other detectors (e.g. Fisher F75 and White's TDI/SPP). Right angle versions of that adapter exist (I think I have one). These adapters seem to be more reliable than their cousins. Loose ends: There are other less than ideal solutions as well: A) buy the recently released SunRay ProGolds with 90 degree 3.5 mm plug. Well, that's another $150 to replace a headset that already works great. Further I've seen a report/rumor that the speakers in those new ones are inferior to the original's speakers. (Is that true, IDK.) That would really P me O -- to spend that kind of money for a replacement that didn't perform as well as my already existing solution headset. B) Buy Minelab's adapter. Surely it works great in both the Eqx 800 control module and in the WM08 module. Surely? And last I looked (long time ago) it had a gouging price. C) The straight plug on my final solution works just fine with the WM08 (of which I have two, BTW) so what's the problem? Well, I (hopefully) soon with have the Manticore, and it has no proprietary module like the WM08. So if I want to use the Sunray Pro Golds with it I'll need to plug directly into the control module. Maybe I'll like the new ML105's that come stock with it. But maybe I won't. Maybe I'll be satisfied with the new Bluetooth latency. But maybe I won't. D) Why not use a 3rd party very low latency proprietary transmitter+receiver such as the Garrett Z-Lynk system? Added weight, increased number of components/connections which can go flaky, etc. It's always annoying to have something that works well for you taken away. I feel like that is what ML is doing with the audio options of the Manticore -- no more very low latency proprietary option which allows for using my favorite headphones. It's not a deal breaker, just an additional annoyance to find a way to deal with.
  20. do any of you have a cochlear implant if so how does it work for you when detecting
  21. If Minelab has not locked down the Manticore/Equinox 900/700 wireless audio to 3rd party BT LE audio hardware and the low-latency LC3 codec, it looks like Sennheiser is developing Bluetooth LE audio products using the same Nordic Semiconductor BT LE SoC that is used in the ML-85/ML-105 wireless headsets based on the article below: https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/NORDIC-SEMICONDUCTOR-1413213/news/Nordic-Semiconductor-The-renowned-audio-specialist-selects-the-Nordic-nRF5340-SoC-to-develop-a-bro-37837073/?utm_content=20220210&utm_medium=RSS Sennheiser makes quality audio headsets, including a popular set of BT APTX-LL earbuds that worked well with the Nox 800/600 detectors. This also bodes well for other 3rd Party BT LE audio hardware hitting the streets, hopefully sooner rather than later.
  22. During early mornings hunts I usually have the beach to myself, but during the school holidays people turn up well before sunrise.. I hate being a performing monkey and only a few people watching is enough for me to call it a day or find a more isolated beach.. The main thing I dread about being observed is people's curiosity, as inevitably someone will come over to ask if I've found any treasure.. It's not that I don't like people.. In fact I love them, their dropped coins are my bread and butter.. It's just that I can't stand people hovering over me expecting a treasure chest to be hauled out of the sand at any moment.. And what if I did? In these days of instant video my find would be all over the internet in seconds.. Yesterday morning I was wearing my headphones as the sea was up at the island's most popular bays.. It was then I discovered my headphones have magic powers.. Even though there were quite a few people on the beach already, they all gave me a very wide berth.. There was something about my headphones that prevented them from coming close.. The headphones were somehow activating the politeness part of people's brains causing them to respectfully stay out of my way, even when I found something.. It was only when I took them off at the end of the hunt that a lady came over to ask if I found any treasure.. Windy or not, for the rest of the school holidays I'll be wearing my magic headphones.. It's actually quite enjoyable to have people wait patiently until I'm done, especially to watch their faces drop when I show them a handful of rusty bottle tops.. 'Nah, no treasure today'.. 😮
  23. Here is all the latest along with the new instructional video.... Video Review... Specifications and pricing.... Garrett has released a new set of headphones with built in proprietary wireless capability, the Garrett MS-3 headphone. These headphones can interface directly with new Garrett models with built in wireless, like the new Garrett AT Max. They will not work with anything other than Garrett Z-Lynk compatible detectors and accessories. Garrett MS-3 Z-Lynk™ Wireless Headphones PN: 1627710 MSRP $119.95 Built-in Z-Lynk receiver. High-fidelity audio. Volume control. Adjust signal levels to suit individual hearing requirements and to enhance weak signals. Comfortable headband and ear cushions. Folds down for easy storage. USB charging cable included. Speaker impedance: 8 ohms Frequency response: 30-18,000 Hz. The new headphones can be purchased alone or as part of a system with a transmitter box that can work with any detector. Garrett MS-3 Z-Lynk™ Wireless Kit PN: 1627720 MSRP $189.95 Includes: Garrett MS-3 Z-Lynk Wireless Headphones WT-1 wireless transmitter 2-pin AT connector to Micro USB cable—connects AT detector to transmitter ¼" Jack to Micro USB cable—connects detector with ¼" jack to transmitter USB charging cable Mounting band For any style metal detector with 2-pin AT connector or ¼" headphone jack Garrett Wireless Pro Pointer AT Information
  24. I have been testing some wireless Bone conduction Headphones with the Legend Bluetooth wireless connection and with the Garrett's 24K For anyone that does not know what bone conduction headphones are rather then go over your ears or in your ears like earbuds they set by your ears on a bone kind of on your jaw bone just in front of your ears, they leave your ears open so you can hear things that are going on around you while still being able to hear your detector. The brand I have been testing are made by a company called Inductivv,I have to say these have been working great for me, I use them with the Legend and the Garrett 24K, with the 24K i had to add a wireless transmitter which the headphones connect to, The tones and threshold come through nice and clear through these bone conduction headphones, the volume on the bone conduction headphones works off the volume control on the detector, I have had no issues with being able to hear targets through these the targets are nice and clear, I also have had no issues with lag on target response they seem to be just a great set of alternative headphones when you want to be able to hear targets and hear what is going on around you while detecting I would highly recommend them to anyone that wants an alternative headphone for your detector,I have severe tinnitus in both ears with four different sounds going 24/7 in both ears with these bone conduction headphones they help when detecting to lessen the affects of the tinnitus
  25. I might write an iPhone app to filter noisy metal detector signals. Is this a big problem, or is the problem just my old GPX4500? The basic idea is to repeatedly swing across an area, and the app would add all the signals together. Random signals would cancel each other out, and a valid signal would be reinforced. The oil companies call it "stacking", and it has been extremely successful. Any other ideas for an app for nugget hunters would be very welcome.
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