Popular Post phrunt Posted July 12, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2024 Algoforce is an ever-evolving detector, the Algoforce team are constantly improving it and the latest firmware is no exception. This one is something those of us that have mild soil parks and fields are really going to appreciate, along with those that intend to use the unit as a beach detector, it has a new ZeroGB mode that adds significant depth in milder soils, and a new beach mode that uses the same ZeroGB method to enhance beach detecting depth while ignoring the salt even with the coil submerged in salt water. I really like this new update; it benefits me a lot with my coin and jewellery detecting. The detector has evolved from a gold only machine to a very capable coin and jewellery detector for parks and beaches, and by having Target ID it makes that even better than you would think with a PI. I did a really basic video when I first tried it out by using my Algoforce on 16 sensitivity seeing I was in my front yard which has a lot of EMI, the maximum sensitivity is 30, the coin is a New Zealand $1 coin, and the buried depth is approximately 20 to 25 cm, 8 to 10 inches and I'm only using a little 10x6" bundle wound mono X-coil. I really have no idea how deep the coin is now as it's been there for years but it was initially buried about 20cm so I'm estimating 25 as with the soils here coins sink and sink deep. The Length of a pinpointer is about the average depth I find coins, some deeper especially the UK copper penny's which are quite large coins and tend to sink deeper. The depth of the coin doesn't overly matter for the video as the video demonstrates the difference when you're in mild soils and can switch into the new Mild soil ZeroGB mode. You'll note the pinpoint mode also benefits from the extra depth in mild soil mode, prior to switching to that mode I was unable to get a pinpoint target ID, after switching to ZeroGB the Target ID kicks in. Here's the quick video I did just after installing the firmware to try it out and see the depth increase myself. The detectors also had a hardware change to a new version 2 of the basic package with a new shaft and arm cuff with comfort cover and stand with a new battery holding method that improves upon the original release, I didn't personally find anything wrong with the original shaft package but the improved one seems great with enhancements over the original, I did point out the USA customers are going to get a very well refined unit by the time it reaches the USA market, as it's evolving quickly. You can see more on their website at www.algoforce.com.au Here is the information off their website Our team has been continuously working on improving the AlgoForce E1500. We have been developing new software with enhanced features to unlock its potential, and simultaneously designing a new shaft to further enhance its overall convenience and usability. We are excited to announce that the AlgoForce E1500 Basic Package has evolved from version 1 to version 2. Equipped with the new shaft, the E1500 Basic Package version 2 includes several improvements: a fixed coil yoke, a stable middle shaft, a protected USB cable with a right-angle connector, lighter weight, increased full extension length, and the same compact length as version 1. These enhancements boost both convenience and performance. For further details about the differences between version 1 and version 2, please refer to the product page and page 7 of the user manual. Additionally, we are releasing version 1.1.1 of our AlgoForce E1500 software. This update introduces the highly anticipated Soil Type Setting, allowing users to select between Mineralised, Mild, and Beach options to optimise detector performance in various environments. Other enhancements include increased backlight brightness, an optimised pinpoint user interface, and adjusted target ID mapping for greater consistency. What's New in V1.1.1? 1. Introduction of Soil Type Setting 1.1 What is the Soil Type Setting? The Soil Type Setting allows users to select the appropriate soil type for their detecting environment, optimising the detector's performance. The available soil types are Mineralised, Mild, and Beach. 1.2 Soil Type Options: Mineralised: This option maintains the performance of previous software versions, suitable for mineralised soils. Mild: This option utilises AlgoForce's ZeroGB technology, which disables ground balance to enhance sensitivity for nuggets, coins, and treasures of all sizes in extremely mild gold fields, parks, and fields. Users do not need to perform ground balance when using the Mild option. If the soil mineralisation indicator reads 00 or 01 when you pump the coil up and down, you can try the Mild option. However, if selecting the Mild option reduces sensitivity by 4 or more compared to the Mineralised soil type with proper ground balance, it is not suitable for the soil. In that case, please select the Mineralised soil type. Beach: This option also uses AlgoForce's ZeroGB technology, yet aggressively rejects seawater signals and provides smooth operation on dry sand, wet sand, and even with the coil submerged in seawater. This option offers high sensitivity to coins and treasures commonly found on beaches without the need for the user to perform ground balance. 2. Additional Updates in V1.1.1 2.1 Increased Backlight Brightness: Enhanced visibility with a brighter backlight. 2.2 Optimised Pinpoint User Interface: The target ID is now displayed in a larger font for better clarity and positioned separately from the mineralisation ID to avoid confusion. 2.3 Adjusted Target ID Mapping: Improved consistency of target IDs across different detection modes, regardless of which soil type is selected. Please follow the Software Upgrade Instructions on page 16 of the user manual to upgrade the software. You can also watch Simon's demonstration on YouTube. IMPORTANT: After the software upgrade, it is crucial to perform a factory reset. 15 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 It is really great to see the responsiveness of AlgoForce to user suggestions for overall improvement. This is going to be a great all around PI unit for a large number of detectorists. You can bet other manufacturers are having to revamp their plans. 2 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryinHawaii Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 I really hope that they will make the unit waterproof for at least 10 feet deep. 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phrunt Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 14 minutes ago, TerryinHawaii said: I really hope that they will make the unit waterproof for at least 10 feet deep. I think they should do a waterproof version at some point; they would have to produce their own coils for that model which they're very capable of doing as no GPX coils are properly waterproof for that sort of usage. Demand is what motivates manufacturers, if they see the demand is there, they're more likely to do it. 5 hours ago, JCR said: It is really great to see the responsiveness of AlgoForce to user suggestions for overall improvement. This is going to be a great all around PI unit for a large number of detectorists. You can bet other manufacturers are having to revamp their plans. They're amazing at implementing user requested changes and new features. Anyone can do it, you just have to come up with a viable idea suitable for the detector, contact them whereby you are speaking directly to an engineer and they discuss your idea and the best way to implement it, then they get to work, in short order they have a new firmware available with the new change or feature. The detector has undergone some pretty amazing enhancements since release, and further good changes are in the pipeline. 4 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn90403 Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 A detector with a robust computer onboard can be updated rather than wait for an upgrade or new model. I can see a point in the future where I would even pay for an update if Algo does some personal tweaking that puts more in my jar. For now they have a detector that is out and working and they are updating it with user/owner input as well as testers it seems. All good. 3 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aureous Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 The coil yoke setup on vers 1 was the only brainless thing on the whole detector. Glad to see they finally changed it. I glued mine like a rock within an hour of owning it. 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phrunt Posted July 15, 2024 Author Share Posted July 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Aureous said: The coil yoke setup on vers 1 was the only brainless thing on the whole detector. Glad to see they finally changed it. I glued mine like a rock within an hour of owning it. I haven't paid much attention to it, I change coils a lot too, did you just line it all up and glue it then it just stays in position making it easier. 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aureous Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 18 hours ago, phrunt said: I haven't paid much attention to it, I change coils a lot too, did you just line it all up and glue it then it just stays in position making it easier. Yes, the thing rotated like a top. Lining up the coil bolt holes was a nightmare! 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaseTech Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 The depth increase in the Mild vs Mineralised setting is quite notable, even with a low Sensitivity. Using Sensitivity 15, and an Aussie $2 coin here's a couple results: With a 10x5" Coiltek in Ultra mode, I'm seeing a 5cm (2 inch) improvement With a 9" Elite, in Fine mode, Mild is beating the Mineralised setting by a little over 2 inches. So it's definitely a worthwhile addition for those lucky enough to have mild ground in their area, but even for using it on dry beach sand or in a coin/relic scenario with loamy non mineralised soil. 9 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26201-algoforce-has-a-new-firmware-111-a-really-good-update-and-a-new-version-2-package/#findComment-277274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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