1515Art Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 I have wondered about this for years, researched as much as I know how, but doubt I’ll ever solve the mystery on my own. So I figured I’d go public on the off hand chance some new information comes into the light. A lot of speculation but again a lot of things seem to fit. Anyway I’m hoping some super sleuth can connect enough dots to solve the puzzle one way or the other… who knows? Link to Treasure net https://www.treasurenet.com/threads/lost-gold.699588/ 3 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dig4gold Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 I wish you luck. Man, there are some a...holes in this world. Gold brings the worst out of many people. D4G 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1515Art Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 I don’t know one way or the other, obviously I think it’s possible and I’d doubt the finders story even if I wasn’t chasing a dream I absolutely don’t think they found it on their property. They acted nervous the day they found it and I think they have been nervous ever since trying to protect their secret. Wikipedia says they are no longer together so I see cracks in the concrete, I just need one big enough to fit a little pry bar in… maybe then I’ll get a view of what lies Beneath. If it’s still out there, maybe I started a treasure hunt but if it was found in Jackson then I’d at least know what happened and the mystery wold be solved. Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 For starters, his attempt to tie his great grandfather's gold to the Saddle Ridge Hoard doesn't add confidence in his credibility. Jackson is ESE of Sacramento. According to the Wikipedia article I just linked the Saddle Ridge Hoard was found in the Shasta Cascade Region -- significantly North of Sacramento (an hour's drive to its southern border). There are more issues with this claim, particularly its size (in face value), but let's leave it at that. The more one has to twist a story, particularly settling on lies, the harder it gets to accept. Hoards are really tough and research is probably more important for this form of treasure hunting than any other. Did the hoard exist? If so, has it already been recovered? If not, is it even in a recoverable location? The list of 'gotchas' is considerably longer than this. If someone is going to take this tale and have even a slim chance of success, s/he is going to need to do a lot more objective research than this person has presented. 2 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1515Art Posted July 13, 2024 Author Share Posted July 13, 2024 8 hours ago, GB_Amateur said: For starters, his attempt to tie his great grandfather's gold to the Saddle Ridge Hoard doesn't add confidence in his credibility. Jackson is ESE of Sacramento. According to the Wikipedia article I just linked the Saddle Ridge Hoard was found in the Shasta Cascade Region -- significantly North of Sacramento (an hour's drive to its southern border). There are more issues with this claim, particularly its size (in face value), but let's leave it at that. The more one has to twist a story, particularly settling on lies, the harder it gets to accept. Hoards are really tough and research is probably more important for this form of treasure hunting than any other. Did the hoard exist? If so, has it already been recovered? If not, is it even in a recoverable location? The list of 'gotchas' is considerably longer than this. If someone is going to take this tale and have even a slim chance of success, s/he is going to need to do a lot more objective research than this person has presented. Haha, this person is me… I’m not saying anything more than because everything is kept secret I can’t rule it out, there are things described and I know the basic location in Jackson where a hoard was lost that could fit. Wikipedia is conjecture like the rumor it was found in Auburn. As far as I know 3 people actually know the location and they haven’t talked, where ever the information came from about the finders location I can’t locate or validate a source fact is almost everything posted about this from the couple that found it could be just smoke. my grandmother told this story often, her dad doted on her playing with the jars of gold coins never wavered. How much did he make? How much can you make mining the miners, food and lodging in a large boarding house, serving food and drink running the theater restaurant, bootlegging and running a brothel? there were a lot of girls, my grandmother collected perfume bottles and ribbons from the ladies and these are just the business I know of. I can’t say how much he made but those business can be lucrative I think? im posting because I come to the conclusion I’ll never find it but I’m pretty sure you can draw a fairly small circle around the area and if we can rule out saddle ridge there is a really good chance it’s still out there, I always thought he would have gone south on Jackson creek someplace but that’s ranch land private property but the major area that is unchanged from 1901. everything I posted is backed up from direct knowledge from someone that was there, newspaper articles and county records. But I don’t have pictures and video, some will only believe that and it’s their right to feel any way they wish. 3 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 5 hours ago, 1515Art said: Haha, this person is me… Sounds like you have a good story worth writing up, but since we've lost the treasure magazines most of us grew up really looking forward to devouring each month, I don't know where that would be. 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1515Art Posted July 13, 2024 Author Share Posted July 13, 2024 2 hours ago, GB_Amateur said: Sounds like you have a good story worth writing up, but since we've lost the treasure magazines most of us grew up really looking forward to devouring each month, I don't know where that would be. Your comments were actually great observations a lot of viewers im sure are skeptical and if my story can’t stand up against those questions it’s not a good story, all comments unfiltered provide a more complete picture. when posting this one of my tests was what to expect in negative comments, I really didn’t know but a little before my post someone paid to be a charter member and then posted his story on the lost Dutchman mine… it was brutal, they even kept the thread up because everyone was having so much fun, lol. So far around 500 views and not many comments but no negative ones, a good sign? 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 I think we're conditioned to be skeptical of lost treasure stories, in no small part because so many over the years have been pure fiction, but presented as otherwise. Speaking of the Lost Dutchman Mine, there was recently a History's Greatest Mysteries episode on History Channel about it. It was a good review, IMO, of the story's checkered history. Like most that are based upon some truth, it can be tough to filter through all the pieces, figuring what is likely reliable and what could be fabricated. The easy route is to "throw the baby out with the bathwater", and that seems to be the action many readers/viewers take. The Victorio Peak Treasure is even a more difficult one to come to grips with, IMO. There are so many rumored connections to the Army' activities and motives as well as the Federal Government claims (Nixon administration involvement). Doc Noss's questionable integrity is another big monkey wrench tossed into the gears. 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardPack Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 There still is an old boarding house with a restaurant on Jackson Gate Road that served the needs of miners. Many mother lode cathouses were not shut down until 1964 by direction of then governor Edmund Pat Brown in opposition of both ranch hand and logger. Most of the miners hired for the day were paid off at the end of their underground shift. The wages were barely enough to cover the daily cost of living, the real money was made by high grading up one’s arse. Merchants traveling from their place of business to their residence were often relieved of their day’s receipts by a transient day worker not happy with a career as mucker. The business owners who did not reside in or over their place of business often had tunnels drifted from the basement to basement to avoid the side streets. Cathouse madams did not travel far from their cut of the take. A covey hole cut between the floor joists hidden under her bed would allow her to at least identify the thief. Folks with gold in any form would not be incline to hide it out of sight or reach, wherever under the residence or in the yard. Where was the Jackson family home? 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/26208-family-story-of-lost-gold/#findComment-277127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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