Single Frequency At The Beach?

[bklein]

Any videos showing the Manticore using single frequency at the beach?  I don’t get out that often and have neglected trying it. On dry land it is way more effective detecting a problem gold chain of mine. 
 

Gold Chain: Beach General Multi IQ vs Gold/Prospecting 40KHz

 

[Skull diver]

11 hours ago, bklein said:

Any videos showing the Manticore using single frequency at the beach?  I don’t get out that often and have neglected trying it. On dry land it is way more effective detecting a problem gold chain of mine. 
 

Gold Chain: Beach General Multi IQ vs Gold/Prospecting 40KHz
https://youtu.be/f8Jz-xsREus

I highly doubt that in mono you can tackle the beach and the saline.
Not in the right way for efficient detection or without using a maximum of 18 kHz.
With the Deus I have obtained stunning air tests on 38kHz or so but never once could I venture on terrain to reproduce a good result.
Tons of false signal make life really difficult at the beach in mono.
However, I wonder why you use beach generals instead of beach low conductors?
I am afraid it is really the only program capable of unearthing broken and very thin material.

[bklein]

At the park, I went through most if not all modes before doing the video. Nothing as striking as switching from multi to 40khz. I often test the modes in my beach hunts but I don’t think I ever had an instance where a target doesn’t show on all modes. Sure you can run at high depth, throw in nails around the target etc. but in general most targets are heard in all modes at reasonable depth.  With chains though there is such a hard hit at 40 kHz that I wonder if we have the leeway in settings and signal to tweak them enough to pick up chains that in multi IQ we just would not hear at all. Maybe our brain has to be more involved too. Just kinda weird that there is not a video even trying SF in saltwater. I myself am guilty - until this I had not tried SF at all.

I wonder, if in the development of the MC, if gold chain detection was a priority.  I don’t notice any huge difference in performance between the modes with this problem chain. We know we are missing these. I’d say the MC has the best potential of all detectors I’ve used - but I think it can do better.  My Impulse AQ misses them too. I’ve had cases with both detectors though where a target very similar to one link of the chain is detected.

[Chase Goldman]

SF is just too unstable in salt beach (wet sand/submerged salt water).  @Steve Herschbach and others (including Skull diver above) have discussed numerous times regardless of whether you are using beach SMF modes, single frequency, or PI with salt balance, tiny gold (e.g. earring backs) or gold with low intensity induced eddy currents (open chains or bracelets w/o pendants or large clasps, broken rings, or broken, thin hoops) are very difficult to detect because they can easily fall within a detector's salt compensation/cancellation ID range or in the case of SF detectors, you have to run sensitivity so low for the sake of stability that ALL targets suffer depth loss.  SMF Gold modes on Manticore/Nox are very sensitive to such targets but are difficult to run with good sensitivity/stability on wet salt sand and submerged in salt water.  You can have success with these modes (Gold or 40 khz SF) on dry sand at salt beaches, as long as the targets actually reside there.  But for the most part, such targets are more plentiful in or near the water where people are more likely to lose their jewelry to cold water effects or wave action.

There are no free lunches and what's optimal in one environment may be non-optimal in another.  The good detectorists recognize and are able to balance these tradeoffs to set their detectors up for best possible performance for the conditions at hand.  In other words they take what the environment gives them whether it's salt stability, high soil mineralization, or high EMI and adapt accordingly to get the best performance possible, which may be a far cry from what is possible under ideal environmental conditions.

 

[MD4V.org]

In the wet saltwater sand, water, single frequency is not optimal - period. I suggest YOU do a video of the Manticore in wet saltwater sand on your chain. I would like to see it!

[bklein]

I’d probably drop my phone in the water 🙂.   But yeah I’ll try it maybe in a week from now.

[JohnnyRox]

Dry sand...have at it with Goldfield Mode in 40 Khz.  It'll detect...everything. 

Wet sand/in the water...Beach Low Conductor is best for small gold.  

[bklein]

My chain isn’t small though…

[Skull diver]

56 minutes ago, bklein said:

My chain isn’t small good though…

I own one silver necklace that I bought because of the rope shape that I am crazy about.

No detector, including Ctx and Deus2, could detect it with any possible combination of settings.

However, I can recommend you use the "Depth" audio theme when in beach LC , as it really does sound a lot like the prospecting theme and although it lacks a true treshold (which I would love to be able to hear underwater), it amplifies the signal that is really weak in other audio themes.

Keep it on simple, because otherwise enhanced or rich can only blunt the sound and is counterproductive.

Let me know if You can finally hear the thing under the coil💵...I'm editing the text cause I've seen some of your contents on YT...

With the settings I suggested You, keep in mind to stay under the 22 points in sensitivity otherwise You will play against yourself.

On a beach test You were running 31 points, maybe on the dry, and well,  with beach LC just forget it...

(You want yo stay as closer as possible to the quietest "dash dash" screen)...