Fisher F75 LTD Vs Manticore For Prospecting/Relics - Where To Buy And Maybe Get A Teacher's Discount?

[Robert Eaton Jr]

Hi! 

Pretty busy these days delivering everybody's Amazon packages and whole food deliveries and save Mart, and then Walmart spark while I work the other 40 hours a week trying to create education management systems and stuff to help my kids which I will one day hopefully be able to release to the public. 

Anyhow, I've got my f75 LTD that I run with me from China and I love it. However, having once had a GPZ 7000 and a gold monster I long for those things. 

I'm pretty busy right now so I'm okay that I can't purchase them again yet, but looking at the manticore discounts, combined with the fact that I just got permission to metal detect in a pretty famous house built in 1938 here in Reno, I was kind of thinking about springing for a manicor actually financing one. 

When the summer comes next year or the spring, I'd like to hit some more trails around Carson City. Maybe spend some more time in Tahoe with my family. I can't go on those schools seeking dreams right now, but I'm wondering 

Is the manticore really a lot better than the f-75 LTD? 

It seems on fine gold it is. You know I stop all the time wherever I'm at w at and bring my f75 out of the car and look around. 

Sure would be nice if they had some collapsing rods for that I hate the push button thing to j disassemble the rod. 

I know the manticore is a little bit more compact. 

But is it better than the f75? 

I'm not going to do that dig I think until spring even though I'm dying to do it. 

I thought about calling the Reno you know guy and seeing if he wants to video it. 

I don't want to ruin the hunt using my f75 when I should maybe step up to the Manticore..

Well I'm looking for a place to buy one right now and use the discount depending on what everybody says about how it works compared to the f-75. I mean the Black Friday discount. 

I went to Rob's detectors and I saw they had a military discount 15%. 

I taught kids nearly 20 years and adults 

Is it only military that gets the discounts when buying metal detectors? If anybody knows of a teacher's discount let me know. 

I did a ton of searching and I can't seem to find anybody that upgraded their f75 to amanticore. 

And it seems like my f75 is a little more than a glorified pin pointer. 

Ice looking at getting the Garrett wireless headphones for it in that new 12-in coil that fisher made. 

Funny enough, my profind 35 is acting pretty weird. When I looked at the shopping cart for the $199 coil, and the headset and the pin pointer it was like five or 600 bucks really close to the price of a manticore...

Maybe I'll just buy that old coil and line my ducks up. Maybe the manticore hmmm..

Sure do love this forum

 

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2 hours ago, Robert Eaton Jr said:

Hi! 

Pretty busy these days delivering everybody's Amazon packages and whole food deliveries and save Mart, and then Walmart spark while I work the other 40 hours a week trying to create education management systems and stuff to help my kids which I will one day hopefully be able to release to the public. 

Anyhow, I've got my f75 LTD that I run with me from China and I love it. However, having once had a GPZ 7000 and a gold monster I long for those things. 

I'm pretty busy right now so I'm okay that I can't purchase them again yet, but looking at the manticore discounts, combined with the fact that I just got permission to metal detect in a pretty famous house built in 1938 here in Reno, I was kind of thinking about springing for a manicor actually financing one. 

When the summer comes next year or the spring, I'd like to hit some more trails around Carson City. Maybe spend some more time in Tahoe with my family. I can't go on those schools seeking dreams right now, but I'm wondering 

Is the manticore really a lot better than the f-75 LTD? 

It seems on fine gold it is. You know I stop all the time wherever I'm at w at and bring my f75 out of the car and look around. 

Sure would be nice if they had some collapsing rods for that I hate the push button thing to j disassemble the rod. 

I know the manticore is a little bit more compact. 

But is it better than the f75? 

I'm not going to do that dig I think until spring even though I'm dying to do it. 

I thought about calling the Reno you know guy and seeing if he wants to video it. 

I don't want to ruin the hunt using my f75 when I should maybe step up to the Manticore..

Well I'm looking for a place to buy one right now and use the discount depending on what everybody says about how it works compared to the f-75. I mean the Black Friday discount. 

I went to Rob's detectors and I saw they had a military discount 15%. 

I taught kids nearly 20 years and adults 

Is it only military that gets the discounts when buying metal detectors? If anybody knows of a teacher's discount let me know. 

I did a ton of searching and I can't seem to find anybody that upgraded their f75 to amanticore. 

And it seems like my f75 is a little more than a glorified pin pointer. 

Ice looking at getting the Garrett wireless headphones for it in that new 12-in coil that fisher made. 

Funny enough, my profind 35 is acting pretty weird. When I looked at the shopping cart for the $199 coil, and the headset and the pin pointer it was like five or 600 bucks really close to the price of a manticore...

Maybe I'll just buy that old coil and line my ducks up. Maybe the manticore hmmm..

Sure do love this forum

 

I can't speak to the direct comparison you seek. But, in 2009-2010, I owned both the Fisher F75 and the Minelab Etrac (which I still have). On my best relic site (hundreds of keepers from here), the Etrac was the clear winner for both ID and depth. This was also true at turf parks with deep silver. As much as I enjoyed the weight and speed of the F75, I'd never go back. Good luck on you site.

[Rick N. MI]

If you have mild ground I would just use the F75. I would get the newer Fisher 12" coil. Mineral ground needs SMF so the Manticore or other SMF detector will be better.

My AT Pro with 8 1/2x11 hits my 10" buried dime in my mild ground so I haven't got the D2 or Manticore.

I have SMf Legend & Triple Score plus single frequencies, Xp Orx, AT Pro, AT Gold, Tejon, Lobo ST, Tiger Shark, Sovereign XS 2 Pro, F19, 1236x2, Gold Racer and Gold Kruzer. I enjoy my single frequencies in my mild ground to.

[Chase Goldman]

7 hours ago, Rick N. MI said:

Mineral ground needs SMF so the Manticore or other SMF detector will be better.

SMF has advantages beyond handling difficult ground conditions, especially when the targets of interest have a wide range of TIDs.  SMF detectors are also more adept at properly identifying ferrous targets and if set up properly, will false less on most ferrous or mixed ferrous targets.

Also, the latest crop of detectors are mostly SMF because that feature no longer significantly drives detector cost- it has become commonplace like DD coils and Discrimination.  Also, practically all SMF detectors have single frequency modes. So there is little reason not to buy an SMF detector today, if you desire to upgrade, because it just gives you so much versatility.

But these latest detectors also have a host of other useful but not necessarily mandatory features (and also not necessarily tied to SMF) such as fast recovery speeds, enhanced tones, adjustable tone bins, tone audio customization, ability to save multiple setting customization profiles, visual target aids beyond just digital IDs, rechargeable batteries, wireless audio built in, weather and water proof, and superior weight and ergonomics (though the F75 still gives any modern detector a run for its money in the ergonomics department).

But, I agree, there is no reason to upgrade to an SMF detector unless the detectorist is concerned that targets are not getting detected or keeper targets are harder to come by due to thick ferrous or non-ferrous trash.  Detection depth is not so much the main driving feature of detectors anymore.  It is more important for detectors to be able to pick out keepers from trash and that favors detectors with fast recovery speeds and reliable audio and/or visual means to ID trash.  

If you have plenty of sites whose junk is NOT yet limiting your ability to recover keepers and you are still having fun with your F75, no reason to upgrade.  If you find yourself getting frustrated by frequently getting skunked or because you are digging too much trash, consider an upgrade.

My advice, though, is not to drop north of $1K on something like a Manticore.  I think getting something like a Nokta Legend, Triple Score, Xterra Elite, Nox 600 or 700, or the new Garrett Vortex are all better values in terms of bang for your buck than Manticore. 

For the OP who is specifically interested in gold prospecting, the Nox 600/700 and Legend of the above recommended are best for gold.  If you want the best non-PI for gold Manticore or the Garrett Goldmaster 24K (gold only) are considered top of the line with the Nox 800/900 not far behind.  (I see the 800 (discounted) as a potentially better value than the 900 or Manticore with a dedicated gold mode, but between the 900 and Manticore on sale, I would get Manticore).  You also have to consider getting the right small coil for gold.  FWIW.

[Robert Eaton Jr]

Thank you everybody for your help. I've decided to just get the new 12-inch coil from Amazon for 190, and I also picked up the 6.5 in elliptical coil it's supposed to do better with discrimination, I found my F-Pulse was still working so I don't need to buy a new one and I found some old great ghost headphones so I'll use those and not the wireless Garrett...

Picked up a Black Friday shovel a sandscoop 

Doing another delivery today at a regular customer's house that's this nice 1932 building that's never been detected, I received another permission not only did detect the yard but also their basement if I like. 

I'm going to wait till I get the new coils and go dig up my Garmin camera, and I think I'll make yet another metal detecting YouTube channel with the tiny bit of videos I might have the time to make your and there.

It's not the detector of my dreams however, I know that it worked back in 2008 and 2014 I believe. Should still be functional better than none 🙂

I'm quite sure I have not even came close to using it to its limits. 

[IBMe]

20 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

such as fast recovery speeds

Surprisingly, the F75 in FA is faster than Legend on 10 or nox600.  

[Chase Goldman]

1 hour ago, IBMe said:

Surprisingly, the F75 in FA is faster than Legend on 10 or nox600.  

I own an F75, Nox and Legend and that has not been my experience, but I have not run objective tests. Do you have objective evidence of this that you can reference?

[IBMe]

43 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

I own an F75, Nox and Legend and that has not been my experience, but I have not run objective tests. Do you have objective evidence of this that you can reference?

Just messing around, did test. Four coins a quarter apart. F75; one tone an FA. Nox 600, top speed 3. Legend = 10.

Legend couldn’t handle it. Nox and F75 close, slight edge to F75.

Tried X-Terra Pro, notably faster than all. I’m assuming this generation of Minelabs would all be faster.

[Chase Goldman]

Thanks.  That's interesting and unexpected.

I'd like to try and replicate your test.  Can you give me the Legend and the 600 mode, tone, and iron bias settings used in your test.  Did you do the test solely in single frequency or did you use SMF modes on the Legend and Nox?  What SW version were the Legend and Nox on?  Finally, did you use coins of different denominations or were they all quarters separated by a quarter's width.  Thanks again.