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That's great!

I might be one of the few who believe air test can play a roll in comparing the same machines or testing head phones. And it can help in learning your machine I believe when it comes to settings, it really helped me on the AQ seeing how you can go from 1 to almost 8 on the ATS setting with out much difference then just a hair more it can knock out clad and small iron. And with that I learned it could knock out some gold if you go much further. And I know many other things can come into play once the targets are coming out of the ground but airtest for me have really helped in my learning and improving performance.

 

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I like Head to Head Tests under identical conditions as much as possible, either air or in ground, at least it gives an idea of how detectors compare on those particular targets in those conditions, better than having nothing but good or bad days in the field and trying to use chance as some indicator.

BTW, my Eagle 2 had performance comparable to almost any modern detector, BUT under a more limited range of ground conditions.

53 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

I’ve never disputed air tests can play an important role in detector testing. I’m also adamant that air tests reveal almost nothing about competitive performance at depth in anything but the mildest non-mineralized soils. It seems it always must be black and white about things these days, good or bad, useful or useless. Life’s a little more complicated than that. :smile:

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Knomad said:

I like Head to Head Tests under identical conditions as much as possible, either air or in ground, at least it gives an idea of how detectors compare on those particular targets in those conditions, better than having nothing but good or bad days in the field and trying to use chance as some indicator.

BTW, my Eagle 2 had performance comparable to almost any modern detector, BUT under a more limited range of ground conditions.

 

Over the years I have done a few head to heads and they can really be enlightening on many things, first.. comparing two different machines in the environment you normally hunt in and they can reveal your competition's abilities. 

I do have one lined up this summer with the Manticore and my Excalibur, I'm very interested in seeing how both fair. And it is with one of the hunters I normally hunt with, got to keep a eye on them to..😄

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Steve, your posting was a nostalgic flash back to the early days of digital detecting.  The field test report I did for "Treasure" magazine was the very first detector field test I performed. I spent a lot of time and effort trying to reconcile analog into digital. Thanks again buddy.

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On 6/18/2025 at 8:48 AM, Jim McCulloch said:

Steve, your posting was a nostalgic flash back to the early days of digital detecting.  The field test report I did for "Treasure" magazine was the very first detector field test I performed. I spent a lot of time and effort trying to reconcile analog into digital. Thanks again buddy.

I am putting too much work into getting these old engineering reports up for what is obviously almost no interest. I get it, people have moved on, think this is just ancient history. Truth is the concepts laid out clearly in the Spectrum/Vision and MXT/GMT engineering reports is a real solid foundation for anyone wanting to know how modern digital metal detectors work. I will do one more at least as these old reports deserve to be easier to find. In that regard the effort is worth it, even if only a handful of people are interested.

 

 

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I certainly appreciate having these types of material to study. They fill in knowledge gaps we don’t realize we have.

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Someone must have (for a good reason) believed in it,i mean they  were the 1st correct me if i am wrong then come Minelab with the EXPLO XS if my memory is right...

 

 

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