Manticore Strikes Again

[Rivers rat]

Hello to all ,strange tide on the Thames today i thought it was going to be lower,went to another spot who doesnt produce much and thought to give it a go as my manti skills are improving ,same settings 16 sens ,m8 coil,reac 6 and dug every signal with a bit of voume shall i day.The best was the 13th century token hard to define was it is depicting that will go to the museum for ID.When i use the manti now i turn myself into a prospector,slow low and focussed.The ring is a cheap ring Ex Pluribus Unu,the orange bit who look llike a biscuit is also medieval didnt have time to search the design

 

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[JCR]

That token is really neat. Good detail also.

[F350Platinum]

Great find RR! Love your posts. Sure wish we had that arrangement for old stuff here. 🤔

[TheDeepseeker]

On 6/19/2025 at 1:22 AM, Rivers rat said:

Hello to all ,strange tide on the Thames today i thought it was going to be lower,went to another spot who doesnt produce much and thought to give it a go as my manti skills are improving ,same settings 16 sens ,m8 coil,reac 6 and dug every signal with a bit of voume shall i day.The best was the 13th century token hard to define was it is depicting that will go to the museum for ID.When i use the manti now i turn myself into a prospector,slow low and focussed.The ring is a cheap ring Ex Pluribus Unu,the orange bit who look llike a biscuit is also medieval didnt have time to search the design

 

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That "Token" may be older than you think Rivers Rat. I was born on Canvey Island in the mouth of the Thames Estuary (came to Oz with my family when I was seven). I spent a couple of icy cold winters with my dad fishing in the Thames estuary for Cod. You've probably found some of our homemade spoon sinkers from the 1960's, and wire fishing traces and booms made from the tops of potato sacks. In the Benfleet creek mud there they once found the remains of a Viking ship, apparently part of the Battle of Benfleet in 894AD, between the Saxons (my ancestors) and the Vikings (the other English people from up North as my late father would say 😄). It's a cracker of a find and I'd love to know what the museum makes of it.

[TheDeepseeker]

Well, that's what I like about this forum. It has forced me to learn something new. It does indeed look like a 13th century token.

I don't mind slow days in the shop when I get to research stuff online. I had never heard of them before I did a google image search. Apparently they were often made of pewter, and yours looks very similar to the Winetavern Street type tokens.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia322991.html

Edit: I found the ring too. It looks like it's from the top of a Monkey 47 Gin bottle from around the cork. Apparently people do wear them as rings.

 

 

[Rivers rat]

A bit of reading for those interested:

 

https://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital BNJ/pdfs/1983_BNJ_53_7.pdf

 

RR

[1491]

Nice digging there!