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28 minutes ago, Knomad said:

I would Gladly buy one if they priced it the same as the GM1000.

But I think buying something SO over priced with flaws like they just didn't care about them, just gives incentive to manufacturers to rip people off for short term gain with half assed products..!

If the  GM2000 mostly detected like  a GM1000 but with numerical target IDs I wouldn’t have bothered buying one at any price. Thankfully it doesn’t detect like a GM1000. Like I’ve said before I wish the price was around $1500 US. To me that would be fair since the GM2000 has three viable soil modes, two excellent, accurate audio choices,  target IDs that are very accurate, a ferrous/non ferrous chance meter that actually works, super fast automatic ground tracking that actually works instantly, a new and improved shaft system and most of all Multi IQ tech that works great. GM1000 has none of those things that work anywhere near the level of GM2000.
 

If you just want to look at GM2000 as a total bust, rip-off from a greedy company with nothing but glaring flaws and omissions over and over in all of your posts, okay.

As an actual owner, I was not a believer until I tried one. I was wrong and so are you.

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22 minutes ago, Knomad said:

I would Gladly buy one if they priced it the same as the GM1000.

I understand, they have priced it outside of what some people would be willing to pay for it.  The GM1000 went up in price too, it was far cheaper when I bought mine and also included two coils, now it has one, had it been the price now with one coil at the time I may not have bought it either.   With gold prospecting machines it's a bit of a different world though, many people buy one to use as a tool with the intention it finds them the gold to pay for itself in short order, and a machine like the 2000 has the ability to pay for itself quite quickly to the right person in the right place, so to them it's good value and it will end up making them a substantial profit over its time of ownership.  To the hobbyist that has little chance of ever paying it off, it's expensive and likely not worth buying, comes down to personal circumstances.

Minelab will continue to price their detectors as they do until they have real competition, until then expect prices to keep going one way, and it's not down.

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17 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

To me that would be fair since the GM2000 has three viable soil modes, two excellent, accurate audio choices,  target IDs that are very accurate, a ferrous/non ferrous chance meter that actually works, super fast automatic ground tracking that actually works instantly,

The Manticore basically gives you all that and is far more versatile at $700 Lsss.!  It is just more complicated to get set up.

13 minutes ago, Knomad said:

The Manticore basically gives you all that and is far more versatile at $700 Lsss.!  It is just more complicated to get set up.

Wrong. Manticore does not give anyone all of that. I have a Manticore too and have done plenty of comparisons on my own here. GM2000 on moderately to highly mineralized ground with hot rocks here in Colorado handles those conditions far better than the Manticore. Manticore’s audio in the Prospecting mode is nothing like Echo Wave 3 tone audio. Manticore’s automatic ground tracking cannot compete with the ridiculously fast ground tracking on the GM2000.

If you detect in milder soils, I would stick with the Manticore.

Manticore’s price goes back up to $1500 US on January 1st so $500 difference.

Yes, Manticore is way more versatile than the GM2000 for other types of hunting.

I agree with you about the price being too high and about Minelab being too greedy/elitist in their pricing. 

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The GM2000 shines in more difficult soil when it comes to performance.  In milder soil you're better off with a Manticore or even an Equinox 800 in many ways.

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I'm not seeing ANYONE paying off their Manties or EQ's in a couple of days on gold even in the low mineral areas. Sure you see people posting gold finds especially guys like @Gerry in Idaho but usually that's in low mineral locations where a sophisticated discrim comes in handy in all the trash sites, having said that I'm now seeing GM2 operators learning to use the IDs etc to good effect in those sites too. 

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Echo wave audio is nice, handy and sensible. BUT, its the FBS/BBS time-domain ground noise filter that makes the GM2K the absolute beast. Get rid of the noise and the gold is now heard. That is THE KEY tech that adds all the $$ to my pocket and makes the crazy AU$3K price tag worth it. If I had better weather back in November, I could have paid for my GM2K with gold found  in about 3 weeks. In the end, it took 6 weeks. Faster than my GPX6000 (12 weeks I think) but then the price of the detector and the gold were vastly different.

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22 hours ago, phrunt said:

I understand, they have priced it outside of what some people would be willing to pay for it.  The GM1000 went up in price too, it was far cheaper when I bought mine and also included two coils, now it has one, had it been the price now with one coil at the time I may not have bought it either.   With gold prospecting machines it's a bit of a different world though, many people buy one to use as a tool with the intention it finds them the gold to pay for itself in short order, and a machine like the 2000 has the ability to pay for itself quite quickly to the right person in the right place, so to them it's good value and it will end up making them a substantial profit over its time of ownership.  To the hobbyist that has little chance of ever paying it off, it's expensive and likely not worth buying, comes down to personal circumstances.

Minelab will continue to price their detectors as they do until they have real competition, until then expect prices to keep going one way, and it's not down.

You forgot a couple of other things that came with the GM 1000 that are mot with the 2000 either -plastic scoop and a pair of real junky headphones 🤐

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5 hours ago, Jonathan Porter said:

I'm not seeing ANYONE paying off their Manties or EQ's in a couple of days on gold even in the low mineral areas. Sure you see people posting gold finds especially guys like @Gerry in Idaho but usually that's in low mineral locations where a sophisticated discrim comes in handy in all the trash sites, having said that I'm now seeing GM2 operators learning to use the IDs etc to good effect in those sites too. 

JP as you know my country is slate and gold over the years goes down into the slate great distances, early this morn. in 3 hours I got 23 pieces at 5" plus depth on an exposed slate creek bottom that has been done by all detectors for 40 years plus and as you know grey slate in creek bottoms is about as mild gold ground gets, of course tis different if that slates red/mauve as on slope sheds.

Those 23 signals were all just a consistent blip on echo wave audio (just speaker) no movement at all on the probability meter and no ID until after first scrape of surface. I see no need as yet to take the training wheels off and use norm or benign simply because I`m consistently getting gold. This machine is amazing, I believe fellows like Gerry are going to have a ball on oversize heaps especially if the larger coil works out.

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