GM2000 Three Ground Type Frequencies

[Salone]

4 hours ago, RONS DETECTORS MINELAB said:

GM-2000 Box says:

Let advanced automatic sensitivity optimiise performance with over 10,000 dynamic settings.
WoW that’s a lot going on !

10,00 dynamic settings. The phrases they use, like their answer to Jeff McClendon, create a blur that seems intentional. Yet, the proof of efficacy in the machine itself is clear. These phrases do not make sense at all to me, but whatever that secret sauce is, it clearly works in a way that does make for a superior detector.

8 minutes ago, EL NINO77 said:

Here is the question whether Goldmonster 2000K uses in the Benign, Normal, and Difficult settings ... a change in recovery speed... in the style of Multi -IQ detectors Equinox/Manticore.. or does it use technology in the style of FBS type detectors,,, such as Etrac, CTX 3030 in an improved form... which do not have an adjustable Recovery Speed,,, only the possibility of changing the operating mode.. ?

Here is where the questions make sense in terms of how the detector actually performs. At least to me as a non-tech person. My knowledge of detectors is more functional, a basic understanding of the control’s functional impact on what the detector does for me. In other words, I know enough to make the settings do what makes the detector do what I want to the extent it is able.

The GM2000 seems to take this to another level of operation by doing it all for the operator in a dynamic way that ordinary settings which are static could never match.

The tech of the modern age baffles me and amazes me. I am very grateful for these conversations for the deeper understanding you folks provide. 

[Norvic]

ML will not divulge the secret juice behind the GM2K and they shouldn`t, why should other detector manufacturers be given what ML paid for with research and development. If they did they`d be essentially throwing away the premium we pay them for their premium detectors. I for one will always pay that premium because MLs R & D simply has always paid me to do so.

Minelabs 3 latest gold detectors I`ve bought, the GPZ7000, the GPX 6000 and now the GM2K, all 3 of them are amazing detectors straight out of their boxes they each paid for themselves in no time, in fact I can go back to MLs first detector (150000) and say the same. Although back in the time of the 15000 other brands of gold detectors I`d bought also paid for themselves in no time, ML was pulling away from other brands with their early VLFs, then once they came out with the Pi SD2000 the other brands have been only playing catch up. 

2 hours ago, Salone said:

The tech of the modern age baffles me and amazes me. I am very grateful for these conversations for the deeper understanding you folks provide.

As Salone posts, todays modern age tech baffles and amazes me also, my understanding of electronics is only very basic thus I`ll never completely understand how the GM2K works, just speculate, but I can assure you it does.

[Jeff McClendon]

6 hours ago, mn90403 said:

So ... are they saying that 'Multi-AU' = 'that' = a gold frequency?

They've jumbled the output so much it becomes a proprietary gold frequency?

I am taking Minelab simply and literally and I’m interpreting this answer to mean that any Minelab detector now or in the future that has Multi-AU included will have 12 to 76 kHz as its simultaneous multi frequency range.

 

 

[Jeff McClendon]

Those that have used the Equinox 800 Gold 1 and Gold 2 modes know that default recovery speeds for those two modes are different which is literally the only user accessible settings difference between those two prospecting modes.

So having different preset recovery speeds for Benign, Normal and Difficult would not be unprecedented at all.

I am not saying a different recovery speed in those modes is the sole source of the different behaviors of those modes. However, from my testing the length of small target audio responses swinging over a small target at the same speed and at the same sensitivity level is longer using Benign compared to Normal and Difficult

[mn90403]

11 hours ago, RONS DETECTORS MINELAB said:

Let advanced automatic sensitivity optimiise performance with over 10,000 dynamic settings.

Taking Multi-AU and subjecting the response to different filters and algorithms produces a signal response which enhances a desirable gold target.  The GM 2000 is rather 'locked in' vs the Manticore which allows for more manipulation of the response.

[JCR]

 The future of overall detector performance improvement certainly seems to be focused on better Ground handling capabilities. All the manufacturers know this.   Minelab, Rutus and Tarsacci are the most active that I see with new models specifically with this intent. The new Legend 2 & Nokta's PIs should continue this trend.    It is interesting to see how each maker has approached & addressed the challenge.   Very selective filtering,  independent magnetic & conductive balancing,  fast powerful specific signal processing,   combining traditional VLF wave form & PI type square wave form,   adjustable Ground/VDI scaling/ Hot Rock setting, and who really knows what else.   It seems we are getting to the point where the individual ways are beginning to merge as a combination of methods.  It is an exciting time to be a detector nerd.  We are seeing real benefits in the field.

[mn90403]

JCR,

Is that an updated list of your detectors?  

There are no Minelabs listed.  Are you sneaking in some use?  haha

[JCR]

41 minutes ago, mn90403 said:

JCR,

Is that an updated list of your detectors?  

There are no Minelabs listed.  Are you sneaking in some use?  haha

 I have never owned a MInelab but I do read & follow with interest all I can on all the top units with an eye toward better understanding of possible performance.  I view my often difficult hunting ground conditions as a blessing disguised as a curse.🙃   And yes, I do need to update my detector list with the Tarsacci XD.

[EL NINO77]

JCR ... I see that you like challenges...as do I...yes, very difficult terrain is demanding on detectors and their setup as well as on the correct detection technique...