Help With Possibly Buying A PI For Coins

[bamajoe]

I'm in central Alabama with highly mineralized ground. My detectors at present are CTX3030, manticort, and Whites TDI . The CTX was good in my soil to about 5.5". Deeper than 5.5" as everyone knows the signal pulls to the bottom right corner of the screen.   I think I got about everything that wasn't masked with iron or junk with the CTX. When the targets dried up I bought the manticort. With the manticort I started getting good targets to between 7 and 8 ". Now that targets have dried up again, I've started trying different setting to unmask the targets next to iron and junk.The highly mineralized ground and iron pulls the signals off so much even as low as 5" that I've not been successful. Back when I was using the Etrac, I bought a whites TDI pulse induction detector after reading Steve's article on using it to find coins in bad ground. Steve's article is true as I've been able to find coins using his advice, However, I dig lots of nails and trash. Finally my question, with the new technology is there anything out now PI or VLF that would break thru this bad ground ? I know minelab has come out with the goldmonster 2000 that is a VLF. Would it do more in my soil than my manticort? I've been looking at the algoforce E1500 PI. Like what I've read and seen on youtube. Also, like the price since I have several coils both minelab PI's and Whites TDI that are 5 pin coils that I think will work. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

[D&P-OR]

Looks like you've had the best of the best in there in your situation.-----Might try the Deus 2---it works the iron really well.---It doesn't get quite the depth of the Manticore though.------Del

[Caliche]

GPX-5000 with DD coil running in Iron Reject mode?  Haven't tried it, just speculating.  Minelab has an 11" round DD (I have one for sale), and Detech makes a (heavy) 15" DD that's said to be pretty impressive.

[JCR]

 I'm kinda in the same boat as you, but I've not used a PI yet given the iron trash levels of my sites. I'm looking forward to see what Nokta's Relic PI introduction will offer.  The Tarsacci XD is about the best choice right now for what you want to do, but it has a bit of a learning curve.

[bamajoe]

Will the Nokta's Relic PI ever come out? I would be interested in independent reviews.

[phrunt]

The Minelab GPX series with discrimination like the 5000 with DD are fine for use in iron if for example a nail is shallow and you have coin targets nearby, in heavy iron or if iron is not close to the surface if small or deep all bets are off.  The Garrett Axiom is similar.

The Algoforce doens't have discrimination it has a method to ID targets based upon conductivity; a bit of iron can register as the same ID numbers as a coin if the sizes are right.  Gold and lead tend to have very low conductivity, so their numbers are lower.  In heavy iron it is not much good either and where it's beneficial is if you know the ID of the targets you want to dig you can cherry pick them.

The GM2000 is showing potential for this sort of usage, handles bad ground very well for a VLF almost PI like and has target ID that's similar to the Manticore in performance.  The downside is very small coils.

The Nokta Relic PI may be the way to go and we will find out when its released, the release has got to be closer seeing we've seen some glimpses of the Gold version appearing at trade shows, it can't be too far away.

[bamajoe]

If I test and note our US silver coins (we dig mostly dimes and quarters} and dug only those using the Algoforce conductive numbers, #1 what do you think my coins vs junk percentages would be? (just your guess).  #2 Do you think the Algoforcre would detect deeper than my manticort? Thanks

[mn90403]

I know it is just a 'Southern Thing', (I'm from the south) but you call it a manticort.  When you are doing video searches for settings on YouTube it is a Manticore and that might help your search results.  In some cases, spelling does make a difference.  😉

[bamajoe]

If phrunt understands what I'm saying, that's all that is important.