Come On Minelab ... What About The Beach?

[mn90403]

Minelab is releasing new nugget detectors, coils and harnesses and even hydration packs.  What about a new beach detector?

I know the SMFs can handle the beach better but is that the best you can do?  Are the 800, 900 and Manticore it along with the lesser priced models?

I'm already ready to take that small gold detector (Gold Monster 2000) to the beach with a larger coil.  When is that larger coil going to be ready?  I live at the beach.  When are you going to make it fun again?  I think I'll never find as much gold in the desert as I've found on a beach.  I'm still trying both.

We've got a lot of retired people with big bucks that could be spent on The Best beach detector yet.  Heck, it might even be able to detect a nugget or two if you tested it on salty, nuggety dry lake areas.  There really aren't too many of those, right?  And while you're at it make it waterproof to 50 feet so somebody can wade at the beach AND a fast-flowing stream with gold.  I bet if you made it good enough for those areas a few people would take it to a freshwater swimming hole!  Creative people might even find an old city duck pond or two if it had good discrimination.  I'm sure if it got good reports in those 'beach' locations that the Europeans would just ignore it and say we don't have enough wet areas to detect.

My next Minelab purchase will be the larger coil for the 2000.  What is the time frame?

[Caliche]

Why would someone with a Manticore take a 2000 (with any size coil) to the beach?  Doubt the 71 kHz would make much difference on large bits like jewelry.  It would be better at finding super tiny bits of shallow foil though, like the Deus2 HF2 at 120 kHz does.  But for anything bigger, the higher frequency doesn't seem to make a difference.

 

[mn90403]

Yes, it is a nugget detector at the beach, but did you see my videos?

The way it handles salt and identifies trash is a shock.

Make a dedicated BEACH detector is my point.

 

[Jeff McClendon]

1 hour ago, Caliche said:

Why would someone with a Manticore take a 2000 (with any size coil) to the beach?  Doubt the 71 kHz would make much difference on large bits like jewelry.  It would be better at finding super tiny bits of shallow foil though, like the Deus2 HF2 at 120 kHz does.  But for anything bigger, the higher frequency doesn't seem to make a difference.

 

People that have actually used the Goldmonster 2000 “outside the box” like Mitchell and me have found it to be a really good coin and jewelry detector. It has similar Multi IQ tech like the Manticore with really accurate target IDs on coins and jewelry, really accurate 3 tone audio, really accurate PI type audio and really accurate iron/gold chance indicator. It has incredibly good hot ground handling. Plus its a lot of fun to swing.

Most of what you read and hear is that the GM2000 has no depth…..WRONG.

I have taken mine to magnetite laced sand at some local outdoor volleyball courts. It performed better than my Deus 2 HF2 coil both on micro jewelry and deep coins. I was digging US nickels and quarters at 8” deep with that little 5” round coil and it could have gone deeper. I wasn’t digging them because I just got an audio response at that depth and took a chance. No, I was digging those coins because the GM2K had a perfect target ID on those coins at 8” depth.

I am seriously considering selling my Deus 2 HF2 coil since the GM2K is just as good at micro jewelry, has way better ground handling capabilities and seriously detects circles around it for gold prospecting.

Sure, a Manticore could do that too with the M8 coil and Manticore is fully waterproof and GM2K isn’t.

However, Manticore cannot run at up to 76 kHz.

I have detected at So Cal beaches near where Mitchell made his video. My Manticore had to be dumbed down some to operate there in Beach low conductors.

Goldmonster 2000 was running in Difficult A2 at 10 sensitivity on damp sand in Mitchell’s video and was easily hitting a small gold chain at roughly 5” deep and it was giving good target responses on coin and lead targets that would have made me dig for sure.

The 10X6” coil could be a lot of fun for this type of detecting.

Put the GM2000 in a waterproof body and add a 9” or so round coil and Minelab would have an amazing beach hunter.

For now, I wouldn’t hesitate to use the GM2K on any beach.

[Bill (S. CA)]

9 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Minelab is releasing new nugget detectors, coils and harnesses and even hydration packs.  What about a new beach detector?

I know the SMFs can handle the beach better but is that the best you can do?  Are the 800, 900 and Manticore it along with the lesser priced models?

I'm already ready to take that small gold detector (Gold Monster 2000) to the beach with a larger coil.  When is that larger coil going to be ready?  I live at the beach.  When are you going to make it fun again?  I think I'll never find as much gold in the desert as I've found on a beach.  I'm still trying both.

We've got a lot of retired people with big bucks that could be spent on The Best beach detector yet.  Heck, it might even be able to detect a nugget or two if you tested it on salty, nuggety dry lake areas.  There really aren't too many of those, right?  And while you're at it make it waterproof to 50 feet so somebody can wade at the beach AND a fast-flowing stream with gold.  I bet if you made it good enough for those areas a few people would take it to a freshwater swimming hole!  Creative people might even find an old city duck pond or two if it had good discrimination.  I'm sure if it got good reports in those 'beach' locations that the Europeans would just ignore it and say we don't have enough wet areas to detect.

My next Minelab purchase will be the larger coil for the 2000.  What is the time frame?

You bring up a point that is not discussed openly in forums but is a constant topic of discussion amongst beach hunters.  It does seem that the new generation of "go anywhere, do anything" multi-frequency detectors has pushed aside dedicated beach machines.  I think the manufacturers are missing a viable market segment by going in this direction.  Look at how long the clunky, bulky, finicky Excalibur hung on.  Maybe the most modded detector of all time.  If I were Minelab I would reboot the Excalibur.  In my view it should be a multi, not a PI, but given the tech genius of their engineers perhaps they could come up with a new platform designed specifically for the beach and in the water. Yes, I use my Manticore at the beach and I kind of get it wet (still have leak fear I'm afraid).  I'd love to have a beach/water machine and would buy one in a heartbeat.

 

[Joe Beechnut OBN]

I would love to see a killer submersible to 100 feet Minelab PI. With gold climbing sooner or later the fresh drop gold jewelry is slowly going to fade at public beaches. And like the older beaches I hunt, some require as deep as I can get machine. 

1 hour ago, Bill (S. CA) said:

Yes, I use my Manticore at the beach and I kind of get it wet (still have leak fear I'm afraid).  I'd love to have a beach/water machine and would buy one in a heartbeat.

 

My old hunting partner uses his Manticore in the water, submerged hunting for just about 2 years now and had to send it in for water issues last week. He used it a lot during the summer submerged and into the winter with two hours hunts a few times a week.

1 hour ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Put the GM2000 in a waterproof body and add a 9” or so round coil and Minelab would have an amazing beach hunter.

For now, I wouldn’t hesitate to use the GM2K on any beach.

9" or 10" for sure!

I do like the stock coil, think its 12.5" but much prefer the 10" coil.. and not a 8, to small...with the 8 may as well use a Manticore or excal. 

Have a Eric Foster 10 on my AQ PI, just got another from my friend Thomas in VB (Carolina) ..Love the 10"

[Chase Goldman]

7 minutes ago, Joe Beechnut OBN said:

9" or 10" for sure!

I do like the stock coil, think its 12.5" but much prefer the 10" coil.. and not a 8, to small...with the 8 may as well use a Manticore or excal. 

Have a Eric Foster 10 on my AQ PI, just got another from my friend Thomas in VB (Carolina) ..Love the 10"

Confused.  The stock and only available (so far) coil on the GM2000 is 5" round not 12.5".

[Caliche]

1 hour ago, Jeff McClendon said:

People that have actually used the Goldmonster 2000 “outside the box” like Mitchell and me have found it to be a really good coin and jewelry detector.

Thanks Jeff, that's great information!  I stand corrected.

[mn90403]

27 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

Confused.  The stock and only available (so far) coil on the GM2000 is 5" round not 12.5".

He mixed Manti and GM sizes but I know what he meant!  haha