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I'm not happy with the price reduction at all, but I think anyone that bought a 900 would also not be happy. 

I have had thoughts of selling mine, but they just cut the value. I won't ever order a detector again until its in common usage, the BT change during the waiting time, new detectors being released, no accessory coils for a whole year and a huge price cut add up to waiting a year for sure. 

My experience is that different modes create different IDs not as much with coins as with trash signals, but a shift of 1 or 2 IDs up or down is common for me on coins. Trash seems to generate + or - 5 on the IDs, I use the difference to decide on dig or no dig.  

I bet sales would be better if they managed an improved update, I assume now, there is not one coming. ☹️

I found this on a cold April day two years ago, it warmed me up and I hunted till dark.

From a common sense point of view, in clean ground dig a 4 inch deep hole and put a US penny size coin in it and see how much sensitivity it takes to get a good signal. You will be surprised how much you can find with that low of a setting. 

Practice for a while and then increase sensitivity.  

1911 map doesn't show a track, but I see a church location that might be worth checking out. 

1895 map and 1937 map 

You could try this for old topo that may show something.   https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer/#10/43.0112/-78.0029

It takes a little work to learn the website, but I have found it really handy. 

Thanks guys, its good to hear I am not the only one digging on the ragged edge at times. The detectorists in my area are as good as they get, hunting before zinc pennies were being made and not afraid to run old detectors in all metal and dig it all. I don't understand how detectors can give a high tone and not give an ID of some kind, and now also fail to show some shadow of dot on the 2D screen.  My other Minelabs also do that, faint high tone and you guess. 

At the edge of detection, I only get a faint high tone difficult to easily repeat, but they repeat "enough" xing the target, but no ID, no trace, no depth indication, barley a  pinpoint signal ?  Search mode and settings don't make much difference other than I am going slow.  Settings adjustments rarely reduce the uncertainty of what is in the ground. 

I have pulled out small bits of iron, I think once it was an IH cut in half about 9 inches, but sometimes I just seem to loose the signal like it might of broken up digging it out. 

Anyone else dig these or have similar results ?  I'm usually in old parks.

Am I wasting my time on wishful thinking ? 

Recently a friend of mine and girlfriend bought a manufactured diamond, they look spectacular and are cheaper than real but still a diamond, maybe its nothing more than a serial number?  and a way to track down the owner ? 

I updated my 800 both times so I am also on the version that includes 4khz.  I would recommend the updates, I saw no downside only improvements. (not that I use the 4 khz all that much, mostly just for testing signals) 

On 3/17/2024 at 12:40 AM, Tony said:

Lower Sensitivity also helps "manage" the less than coin size targets....the small foil, broken tabs, etc are less likely to alert me as masquerading as a coin/ring (super handy for grassed areas).

Yes, I found exactly what you said, but after reading it a lightbulb came on, in that, maybe my tones/profile/volume is set all wrong for my worst trash situations. 

I wish I could set a steep angle in the start and end point in each range, that would translate to any signal that only varied a little bit in ID numbers would have a near consistent tone and using conventional wisdom you could tell without looking if you had a good target, especially if you have notched out "bad" IDs.  I am pretty sure I can't make this work with the Manticore. 

I think you are right, it can be done with just the start and end points. 

A couple configurations I have tried to quiet what I didn't want to hear. 

Its possible this looks crazy as far volumes, I'm using a BT transmitter and ear buds and even at the low volumes I hear the low tones, not sure if the regular headphones would be the same.   

One question, how are you communicating with us from heaven ?

The jury is still out for this trashy park hunter, with my nox 800 I could average 60% good targets and 40% bad, on my worst days, Mcore I can only hit 40% good to 60% bad on my best day. That is a frustrating difference. 🙁

My last 3 hour trip I dug 80 targets 20 were good, some were intentional test digs to confirm junk, but most gave enough good signal that I felt I had to check them.  Trust in the Mcore is not coming easy. 

I think a big step forward would be a detector circuit that only detects aluminum and indicated that on the screen, sort of like how detectors treat iron/red numbers. Imagine if the Manticore had a range where aluminum appeared like the iron does top and bottom of the screen or yellow numbers. 

I will chime in to say that jumpy signals on both good and bad targets takes away the fun.🙁

My wish list for an update starts with less jumpy signals on good targets and second how about a little work on the depth gauge, three arrows should not be 2 inches deep for a coin. After the update the depth gauge seems way off.   I think these are both software fixes that are realistic. 

That stone is sure held in like it was a diamond. Maybe he had to choose between real diamond or real gold.

This leaves me wondering what is the right number of detectors to own. 🤣

12 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

1) If you are on land, set the sensitivity at 17 (or lower, not higher).  I know this may be counter to other detectors -- only halfway up the scale -- but in my experience so far (test garden and field) the Manticore is every bit as deep on 17 as my Equinox 800 at 22-23, and in some settings it's (measurably) a bit deeper. 

I can tell you from a fair amount of frustration the above is correct. The Manticore does so well with EMI I had a tendency to just keep going higher and higher in sensitivity.  Good targets will hit well at low sensitivity, just an fyi Pepsi caps hit harder than coins they are annoying.  

I think you will find almost everyone thinks it is great. I have one I use on my 800, its lighter and works well, but in my case It has not replaced my stock 11 inch.

I would bet it is close to a unanimous, if you get one, you won't regret it. 

I'm to stubborn to admit I can't make it work better than it has so far. So final judgement will come next November.  I am slowly learning new techniques, but winter has stalled my detecting learning progress. Now all I can do is imagine how Dankowski's settings would work,  along with a long list of other adjustments to settings that need more time. 

Maybe someone on the Notka forum thread has tried with the legend ?