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You went above and beyond to find her phone. Even if she never finds out, you did more than most to find it and try to get it back to her. Maybe someday you'll make contact, but you should feel great that you remembered where she was frantically looking for her phone, you went back there months later, climbed up to where it was lost, and you actually found it! That counts in my book. 🙂

More like patience and perseverance....

I've had that issue over the years. Now I can use the deus stock and not quite fully extended. I'm 6'4" with long arms. Size 17 feet. The deus feels long enough. I've used the tall man middle and it's really long and I may buy another .

Nothing like showing that skill is everything. Great job kac, I have much to learn. 👍

Yup, I'll do a separate thread on it and it's issues soon with some videos and stuff, I'm on my second TRX, I replaced the first one for being a bad performing one and now my second one seems even worse, it will just go nuts in the air, it starts falsing in the ground and I lift it up in the air and it keeps on going. The only way I can have it stable is to run in 1 or 2 sensitivity and then the Carrot flogs it to death for depth. That's why I'm on the prowl for a pinpointer that for me is better than my Carrot, I'm yet to find one perhaps this X-pointer is the one. I'm watching with a keen eye.

Are you ground balancing the trx? Turn it on with the point in the air then Just hold the point on the ground and press the button. That’s what the unpublished manual says to do. I just hold it on the ground as I turn it on. Very little falsing since I’ve been doing that.

The only pinpointer I like that I own is the Carrot AT, every other one hasn't done what I expected of it. The XP Mi-4 is decent but the Carrot seems to get better depth in my soil so I see no reason to use the XP. The Carrot and XP seem about as sensitive as each other too to small gold. The Minelab and TRX spend half their life falsing and I can't stand either of them. I'm yet to find my ideal pinpointer so I'm willing to give a Quest a go, I'd have to order one from Nenad in OZ though as no one local sells that brand. I'll sit it out for now as shipping from OZ to NZ this time of year with the worldwide shipping issues is a waste of time and let the guinea pigs sort out if its any good so thanks guys 🙂

Thanks Cipher, just posted a review of my own. I thank you for bringing it to my attention! Got one and it's pretty cool, but time will tell for me.

Thanks! I can tell you my question is a very serious one. It is the reason I NEVER purchased a CTX!

I’m just getting around to reading all this now. I don’t see it as hijacking at all. I appreciate your information. It’s an interesting new gadget for sure.

This information about Samsung Galaxy IP68 phones is a bit telling about how little the IP waterproof standards really mean https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/what-is/ip68/ Devices backed by an international standard rating of IP68 are deemed fit enough to withstand dust, dirt and sand, and are resistant to submersion up to a maximum depth of 1.5m underwater for up to thirty minutes. *Based on test conditions for submersion in up to 1.5 meters of freshwater for up to 30 minutes. Not advised for beach or pool use. Water or dust damage not covered by warranty. They mean very little in the real world, nothing like what it'd be put through in a snorkel and swim around looking for rings situation at the beach spending the day swimming around with it. The IP ratings are also tested in still fresh water. So with manufacturers saying they can swim around with the Legend in up to 10 feet of water that's nothing to do with their IP rating, that's their own self testing of what they believe it will handle, and they decided they'd match Minelab for their Equinox depths, makes sense seeing they copied every other attribute. I don't see a problem with Minelab not bothering with the IP ratings system, in a way it's more for marketing than actual waterproofing. Some evidence of that is the Dues 2 is also IP68 yet they're saying "Made in France by XP, it is waterproof IP68 so you can dive with your DEUS 2 metal detector up to 20m deep." So, seeing both the XP and the Legend are the same waterproof rating yet vastly different in their actual water ability, or at least in theory 🙂 Minelab didn't bother with the IP ratings with their Excalibur II either, and it takes the crown for the best of the ones mentioned, The Minelab Excalibur II metal detector is a fully waterproof detector designed for people who go diving. It is fully waterproof down to 60m and with good variable discrimination is able to discover treasure hidden under the water. IP69K is the best of the waterproof ratings for the IP standards, interestingly neither XP or Nokta wanted to try achieve that. https://www.larsonelectronics.com/blog/2017/02/14/led-lighting/overview-ip-ratings-waterproof-protection-submersibles The highest rating one could possibly achieve is IP69K. This superior IP rating suggests complete protection from dust and protection from steam-jet cleaning (water temperatures up to 80 degrees Celsius). Some regulations, including IEC 60529, refer to the testing of IP69K as IPx9. I think if I was a regular beach water hunter I'd use no less than the XP Deus 2, the Legend and Equinox can handle a bit of shallow water hunting but they're not the ideal detectors for the task. We always talk about choosing the right detector for the job, a 10 feet water rated detector isn't the right detector for someone constantly hunting in the water at the beach. It is possible Nokta have limited theirs to 10 feet just to sit in line with the Equinox and their design is capable of more but seeing all they're trying to do is compete with the Equinox may as well stick with the safer 10 feet depth and get less warranty concerns. Let's face facts them saying you have to keep under 10 feet means absolutely nothing it's not like they have a depth meter recording depths so they know if you've done the wrong thing. By advertising it as waterproof to 10 feet someone can do what they want with it in the water and if it leaks they'll get it replaced under warranty so it makes sense for them to make it as waterproof as their budget and profit margin allows.

Just ordered a Carrot, ML PF35 falses too much for me. I use the Nokta Pulse pointer but it hates the Nox so if my buddy is near by it goes crazy (no love there between them). Nokta Pulse is also slow starting up when not paired with headphones. I like the rechargeable aspect of the Nokta and looks like others are doing the same but end of the day I can stuff the rechargeable lithiums in a pointer and get half a season out of a charge plus can carry a spare. Recharge time on the 9v lithiums is under 2 hours and can be charged on a standard usb.

Haha, total error. Thanks! I completely forgot it's not on all the time. 🤣 But I guess the spec is that it's 14 hours if left on. I appreciate the correction. It also has a "lost pointer" function that you can turn on or off, it will start beeping after 3 minutes. In that light if it lasts for 8 hunts or so it ain't bad! 😀 I have corrected the error.

It's legal to detect on any private property with written permission from the owner of the property in the United States. The arrangement for division of finds is a private matter between the landowner and the detectorist. There are no public or government ownership rights of discoveries on private land in the U.S. as is common in Europe and elsewhere. It is never legal to detect on private land without the permission of the owner. The privately owned lands encompass about 2/3 of the lower 48 states. These private lands are also the most likely to still hold undiscovered valuable items. There are few places where it's legal to detect on municipal or State owned lands if you want to dig what you detect. Some public parks allow detecting as do some school grounds. You will need to inquire about each situation. The federal public lands are, for the most part, open to detecting. Notable exceptions are National Parks, National Recreation Areas, National Seashores, Wildlife refuges and historical sites. Even with our limited history objects of historical significance older than 100 years can not be searched for or kept on any of those federal public lands. Found coins are an exception as long as they are not part of a trove. Treasure hunting is illegal on federal public lands without a special use permit issued by the managing agency. Those are never easy to obtain. That's a general overview as there always seems to be an exception when you are discussing the rights of others.

Finally got my Tejon up and running. Had to use some potentiometer cleaner that has a lubricant in it. I sprayed inside the pots where the pins are and not the top. I didn't want to break down the dampening grease. At first not much improved but after a day later and a good work in they run smooth. Big difference as I can now hear the nuance between iron, aluminum and good targets. My basic settings is crank the sensitivity up but still have no chatter. Next ground balance as good as I can. My primary disc set just slightly above the iron where an iron cut nail will crackle. This helps me skip past the tiny junk and run really quiet. If I hear any crackle I'll swing the coil in a couple different directions and listen for any descent tones or spikes that may indicate a masked object. 2nd disc is set at the high mark of nickel. This keeps the tiny silvers like trimes, half dimes etc. Hunting I listen for just the nice tone rolls, soft tiny ones I can use my 2nd disc as junk check to see if they are super deep or just foil. Park is really old but has a massive hill so bottom has some serious top soil where I dug a couple cans in the +14" mark. One clad quarter was past the 12". Super deep targets it can be tricky to tell cans from large silver as they are getting to the fringes of the machine. Couple Musket balls, some clad, nice rosette so far. These are from short lunch break runs so only been hitting smaller areas. The rock has iron in it and is heavy, maybe iron ore? Sounded way better than it looks 🙂 Still tons of targets and the area is right for one the old USA gold coins so I do tend to dig the small aluminum just to be sure.

Great review, Bob! But I'm confused by the above. Is it always in standby draining the battery or something? My pinpointer is turned on and in use only a fraction of the time my detector is operating. In a 6-hour day I would imagine conservatively 12 recoveries per hour for a total of ~70, such that it is actually operating 70 to 90 minutes per outing (between 1 to 2 minutes per recovery). That would enable it to last through about 6 to 12 hunts best case with a 14-hour run time before needing a recharge. What am I missing?

I use mine for woods and park hunting, neither need super depths. Apex does a very good job in high trash. Even the beach if your just picking through the cuts and towel lines it does really well.

Thank you for giving us a thoughtful review of your findings on this Quest pin-pointer. Extra depth should save time by using it to find more precisely where targets are located from the surface and limit damaging something rare and valuable when digging. I bought a Fisher Pulse that goes a bit deeper on coins in ground than my carrot and it helps save digging time that way. One idea I had for users of this pin-pointer and others using a protective tip, is to perhaps use the electrical shrink wrap and shrink some of it over where the protective cap on the tip snags the holster. This might also help to keep from getting mud and gunk underneath it.

I haven't used one in the salt yet, but I'm assuming it won't be as good as the Xpointer Pro, as the Pro is Pulse Induction.

Yes. Definitely Equinox does not specify an IP rating so it is hard to judge waterproof integrity equivalency with Simplex/Legend. But to the CPT's point, these 3M detectors are definitely really just enveloping dunking versus shallow submerged usage vs. a true dive rated detector like Excal or even the 30M rated Deus II. And before we crown the Legend design definitevly more watertight than Equinox (though I do believe that is probably the case) as inferred from Simplex's track record, let's put this perception in the proper context: First, in the case of both Equinox and Simplex all we have is anecdotal evidence that Simplex is less vulnerable based on flawed/biased "data", if you can even call it that. Yes, there are numerous reports of Equinox water intrusion failures which appear to dwarf reports of Simplex leakage (yes, they are out there), but we have no real idea what the actual numbers are and the percentage of failed units vs. the total that have been submerged. In other words, we have zero apples to apples comparative data. Are there simply fewer Simplex units out there? Fewer that have been submerged (it should be noted that as a single frequency detector it is not an ideal choice for saltwater usage vs. Equinox so less Simplex's would be used in saltwater vs. Equinox all other things being equal). Bottom line, it is really hard to really determine with absolute certainty, whether the Simplex's seemingly better watertight track record is the result of a superior design. Though my gut tells me that is the case. The second issue is predicting Legend's watertight robustness based solely on Simplex's track record. Dilek posted back in September that Nokta was apparently tweaking the mechanical design of Legeng to make it lighter. It is conceivable that these changes could have altered the watertight design versus Simplex such that we will have to "wait and see" if Legend will emulate the "success" of the Simplex watertight design. On the other hand, all that being said, two objective pieces of evidence instill confidence in the Legend's mechanical watertight design: First (unlike Equinox) Nokta is advertising the industry standard IP68 rating which requires the design to pass a standardized watertight integrity test. And, perhaps more importantly, Nokta made a statement of confidence in the Legend's mechanical watertight design by upping the warranty from 2 to 3 years. Anyway, we'll see if Legend lives up to Nokta's demonstrated confidence in the design once it hits the beaches, lakes, and rivers. It looks really promising, but not necessarily a given...yet.

Thank you! I tend to run stuff wide open but I have not as yet used it in the field. If you think it's loud borrow a Propointer. 😀 I wear headphones so I need the pointer to be loud. I will see about falsing and sensitivity!

I have used mine for several hunts and the battery has been charged once, I found that using it on the second level of sensitivity works best for me, still detects deep but no falsing, I made the bottom hole larger so the protective tip doesn’t get hung up, even at the lowest volume it’s still loud, I put a peace of tape over the speaker, I like the discrimination feature with the different sounds and lights, overall I’m enjoying it.

That’s a really nice backpack!

They sell a tall man middle rod. It's like 5" longer.

Sorry man, we got lucky and got us some global warming here. Honestly I wish it would last so I can grow some palm trees on the island I'll be on because I'm 80 feet above sea level 🙄 next week is gonna be warm too.