Jerry Perez

Jim or Steve,

Are both the whites and Garrett's 24k coils interchangeable? I've been experiencing some false signals when bumping into rocks.seems the Garrett coils don't do it as often or at all? I currently have the 6x10 elliptical and the 6 concentric by whites. And if so, are both of those style coils available from Garrett's?

Very difficult to find, I've contacted fisher support and were very,let's say the least interested to help, probably because they don't make them. I'm not sure why because this machine is sold by the hundreds each year enough to support a small shop business. I even took the dimensions to see if I can have my awesome seamstress to make one,but have yet to go to her.🙄

Amazon,eBay, internet all are devoid of this handy accessory. I think the only way you will get one is if you find one at an estate sale ( used ) or you customize it. Hope that helps.

Excellent  suggestions especially the control box and battery packs so many problems with those battery packs from loose contacts and or springs or not taught enough to give it that full contact it needed. Hand manufacturing has its pros and cons this was definitely a con and for sure wireless audio headset capability via Bluetooth would be awesome indeed.

Lipo battery for sure, rechargeable!!! Yeah buddy now we're talking. And the coil situation,hmmm that's not my area of expertise other than looking at the end results of what they can do in the end. That's an interesting take on the epoxy though changing the dynamics over time. I would assume it's perhaps due to the water elements, especially salt water? Dunno. Thanks for the thoughts though....

On 5/3/2021 at 9:09 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

Not only would that not happen on these forums, but I see no reason why it should under any circumstances. Why would Garrett reissuing the 24K not be great news for all involved?

Facts are facts, and this is not Whites news, as Whites is gone. This is Garrett news, so I’ll post it there!

Genuinely great news in my opinion, and amazed I missed it. Thanks for posting!

Nice steve thanks for reassuring this for me on the Garrett side as I didn't know where to post it.

Wow this news from Garrett Metal Detectors was definitely a surprise.! I didn't see this one coming. GPAA News by Kevin Hoagland mentioned this intro news this month.

GARRETT METAL DETECTOR ANNOUNCES FIRST DETECTOR LAUNCH FROM THE WHITE’S ACQUISITION
Kevin Hoagland

Van, Texas April 17, 2021 – Mr. Vaughan Garrett Senior Vice President, Marketing and Sales announced to the attendees of the Charles Garrett Memorial Hunt IV, the first co-branded Garrett – White’s detector will be the GoldMaster 24K aka. GMT 24K due for release mid-year 2021.

Members of the Garrett team that I spoke with including Mr. Garrett shared with me that there are Garrett technologies they wish to incorporate into the GMT 24K before release but did not elaborate on what those upgrades may be.

I'm very excited about this launch, which is just a month or so away, currently I own a GM 24K ,I purchased just before COVID and wonder if we will qualify for an upgrade,if any are made. Maybe a grace period within 1 year of purchase would be fair to qualify.

What are your thoughts you 24K owners?

I wonder what they will rebrand to? GOLDMASTER 24K by Whites/Garrett or GOLDMASTER 24K by Garrett Metal Detectors? What do you think? I was gon a post this in the Garrett section but I'm sure I would get some stonethrowers or negative response. I'm tempted though,lol.

Where's the HotSpot on the Goldbug 2 6.5" Elliptical Coil?

1 minute ago, aufarmer said:

I used it for a couple hours since and it appears to be working properly.  

Great, what did you try to fix it?

On 1/4/2020 at 8:59 AM, aufarmer said:

I purchased a White's 24K this summer and am really liking this detector.  Have an out cropping that I swing a Goldbug II over every year so it's been picked pretty clean, but was surprised to actually get a signal with the 24K and it turn out to be gold.  Thinking when the 6x4 coil comes out I may finally say goodbye to the Goldbug II.  Maybe.

One issue I am having is that it will shut off after a couple hours use.  It would start back up ok but after running a couple hours it would shut down on it's own again.  Just curious if anyone else had encountered this issue?  Contacted Whites but haven't heard anything back from them yet.

AUFARMER did you ever get your problem resolved with the shutdown of your 24K? see my latest port if you haven't.

On 1/5/2020 at 6:12 AM, Jim in Idaho said:

Not always, Jim. My DFX does that and the RNB battery I use in it is the same one I used in my GMT. The GMT never had the problem. I've never worried about the problem in the DFX, as it restarts and runs fine after one of these events. I figured the problem may be the battery contacts, but don't know for sure.

Jim

great suggestion but the 24K doesnt have an auto off switch like the DFX. That is an excellent tip to remember though ; )

On 1/5/2020 at 11:52 PM, karelian said:

I like the Whites battery tray system, but it requires me to 'test' each one of the eight AA cells as I load the tray. My father was an electronics technician and when gadgets failed his first question was always the same.. 'Did you check the batteries.?'  In my experience he was on to something.  Ok, the Pelican AA battery holder may be excessive, but the cheap tester is well worth it and I have a 'system' in place which means failures are rare.  Cheaper ammo boxes keep AA cells well sorted, clean and protected whilst ready for use. Most of my machines run on AA cells, I also use them on GPS, radios, torches, battery banks etc. I buy 'bricks' of bulk AA cells, quality but cheap, new technology some with ten year cell life. Too many cheap and nasty cells out there so it pays to be a bit fussy about what we 'feed' our expensive toys..

All the best, Karelian

 

just bought this BT-168D from amazon, cheap but invaluable tool.Interstingly all of my 8 batteries were 1.58 volts so batteries werent the problem but rather the darn slideout abttery pack with incorrectly adjusted contacts of which has been fixed by pulling forward and now the slop of batteries has been fixed no more shutdown! : )

Does anyone have the dimensions for the control box of the Fisher CZ-3D or the Fisher M-66 Valve and Box Locator? I'm looking for a dust rain cover for the Gold Bug 2 and since they don't make the dust cover anymore for he gb2 I'm looking for an alternate solution other than custom making one. It looks like the CZ-3D or the M-66 could be similar dimensions with the GB2 but don't know. Then again I can't find a dust cover for either of them either, geez!

The Gold Bug 2 control box is: 5" Deep x 3" High x 4.5" Wide

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

On 1/4/2020 at 8:59 AM, aufarmer said:

I purchased a White's 24K this summer and am really liking this detector.  Have an out cropping that I swing a Goldbug II over every year so it's been picked pretty clean, but was surprised to actually get a signal with the 24K and it turn out to be gold.  Thinking when the 6x4 coil comes out I may finally say goodbye to the Goldbug II.  Maybe.

One issue I am having is that it will shut off after a couple hours use.  It would start back up ok but after running a couple hours it would shut down on it's own again.  Just curious if anyone else had encountered this issue?  Contacted Whites but haven't heard anything back from them yet.

On 1/4/2020 at 8:59 AM, aufarmer said:

I purchased a White's 24K this summer and am really liking this detector.  Have an out cropping that I swing a Goldbug II over every year so it's been picked pretty clean, but was surprised to actually get a signal with the 24K and it turn out to be gold.  Thinking when the 6x4 coil comes out I may finally say goodbye to the Goldbug II.  Maybe.

One issue I am having is that it will shut off after a couple hours use.  It would start back up ok but after running a couple hours it would shut down on it's own again.  Just curious if anyone else had encountered this issue?  Contacted Whites but haven't heard anything back from them yet.

So this is a follow up after "tweaking" my slidein battery pack for the 24K of which the battery contacts prongs weren't fully extending out thereby preventing the AA batteries from making good contact with each other, this slop design would shutdown my 24K, this was a brand new machine not even a few weeks old when it started exhibiting this problem. 

This was my first bum machine that i had bought from Jim Mculloch, through no fault of his own i must add, it was just a design flaw or product defect, Jim has always been very helpful in rectifying issues and calling Whites direct to assist if needed. But when Whites went dark, I had to fend for myself even though Centreville Electronics was there, I had to try and fix the basics on my end first before resorting to warranty repair.

In addition I also removed the control box cover to "pull" the battery contact springs outward a bit more and I did this very carefully, this extra tweak also insured the battery pack making contact with the control box making for good contact to maintain power. Doing these 2 things, will definitely improve your shutdown issue, if it's not Circuit Board issue, which i highly doubt since White's made their electronics to last for a good long time.

So after making the 20 minute tweaks, I'm happy to report that my 24K hasn't shut down at all, i took it on a hunt all day yesterday and it used it literally all day long and was ecstatic that it didn't shut down because it would shut down every 15-30 minutes or so or until the batteries lost contact with each other. These battery pack issues are very common, i had the same issue with my MX7 and has since been resolved by employing the same tweak. Hope this helps for you Fellow Whites Electronics enthusiasts and users!

I know Right! what a trip on the DFX, who knew?

On 1/5/2020 at 7:35 AM, Ridge Runner said:

Where you got a slide in battery pack the contacts on the inside will get weak and not always making good contact. The easy fix get something long enough with a hook on the end and pull each contact to you. Don’t over do it but this should correct your problem.

So here's an interesting thing I found in addition to pulling out the battery contacts inside the batt compartment, which is only 8 torx screws to remove,just be careful removing it since the buttons for release are near the sidewalls.

So I pulled my battery pack out and noticed the batteries weren't snug,the first and last sets were both very loose causing batteries to not make contact thereby cutting off power to the unit. So I'm pretty sure that was the issue, you may want to check your battery pack as well and check for loose batteries.thankfully I had 2 extra packs and all of a snug, that as well as pulling the springs inside to make more contact with battery pack should do the trick!👍

On 1/5/2020 at 7:35 AM, Ridge Runner said:

Where you got a slide in battery pack the contacts on the inside will get weak and not always making good contact. The easy fix get something long enough with a hook on the end and pull each contact to you. Don’t over do it but this should correct your problem.

Definitely worth a try as that is exactly what rob the tech or whatever his name was at Whites support said to try if I was daring.

So here we are April 2021 only a few months after Whites shut down and I'm getting this same shut down problem in my 24K no joke. Now what's interesting is that my MX7 did the same darn thing and I sent that in for repair and they replaced the entire head unit, battery pack and even gave several packs of their Alkaline batteries they used and sold ,I forget the brand but they were solid batteries,anyhow after getting it back it hasn't shut down. I suspect the 24K same problem, it will need to get the head unit replaced and the battery pack. Sometimes the contacts of the battery holder would somehow lose the connection and cause it to shut down,that's what rob or whatever told me from whites in the MX7 issue. I'll have to send to centreville electronics to have them address it, I've had it not even a year and had the issue from day 1  of taking it out. Fresh batteries too....anyhow ,if anyone has gotten any feedback from this anomaly please shout back...

Well,I bought a gb 2 day before yesterday and cannot find the control box cover anywhere, so I'm going to use a ziplock bag for now and start working on a prototype to have one custom made and maybe start selling these for awhile.