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sorry for the late reply. yes! I agree as the earlier versions were a "bear" to use in just about any hunting environment.
noisy as hell,and tough to stabilize. they " were' better later on, but by that time most had moved on to other detectors.
not sure if fisher is still a player,as they keep dragging their feet. believe they are all done. they are a big corporate entity involved in other areas,so it tells me the interest in the hobby market may be over.
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On 8/14/2022 at 8:15 AM, Badger-NH said:
I've given up all hope of ever seeing anything new from First Texas. All they have done from the start has been to milk what they could from the Fisher name.
The real Fisher company went out of business long ago. Everyone hoped FT might continue the Fisher tradition of quality and innovation but that has proven to not be their intention. The AQ was a feeble attempt to create something new but that appears to have been a failure.
Personally, I think that the decision makers at FT are not into metal detecting. Their motives are purely profit.
It's unlikely they will ever get beyond the Bounty Hunter market niche and will never compete with Minelab, Nokta, or Garrett in quality, value, and performance. They did succeed in improving the Bounty Hunter brand but in so doing, lowered or at the very least stagnated Fisher and Teknetics.
it is difficult to argue with you as what you say is sooo true, however,i still take issue with you because of the f-75 which was a crackerjack detector, and "very" innovative when introduced!..seems like they have just "stopped" and went in another direction.perhaps carl Moreland can shed some light on what gives with fisher!..I'm just sayin'
(h.h.!)j.t.
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On 5/24/2022 at 6:13 PM, Geotech said:
Please don't tell anyone (we're trying to keep it under wraps) but that spiffy new coil is available on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Fisher-inch-Coil-Triangulated-Bi-Axial/dp/B09SNVRXHC
Apparently only at Amazon, as far as I can tell. Limit 2 per person.
If anyone can purchase, on the open market, the new Fisher MF detector in 2022 I will send them one of my paychecks. Offer good for the first person who can show proof-of-purchase. I'm not sure why we keep aiming for the foot and pulling the trigger but it sure makes for sore feet and a red face.
well then what the heck is going on carl? can you enlighten us in any way with what fisher is up to?..seems there is no publicity coming from fisher these days! why is that? just curious! inquiring minds would like to know! ..thanks!
(h.h.!)j.t.
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hi carl!
what about tom dankowski's calibration efforts on the cz-3d? did this make any difference in the "true"
over all performance of the analog circuit?. apparently, this circuit was a "bear" to calibrate, but from what everything I have read, once it was "calibrated properly" it would NOT drift for many years.tom introduced the "changes" to the cz-3d so as to "extend" the life of the unit.i still believe it is a terrific coin sniper, and sooo easy, and a joy to use in the field.perhaps as you mentioned the complicated circuitry has contributed to it's present financial predicament, and the fact that t is NOT a digital design has been it's downfall. apparently it is not cost effective to produce.but it hung on. for along time, because guys know how good it is as a coin detector.
(h.h.!)j.t.
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On 1/19/2022 at 2:20 AM, karelian said:
I still use the XL Pro, having used a 6000 series 2 in the past. The XL Pro is lighter, uses a better battery system and I suspect has more gain, more than GEB MAX mode which is not missed. The SAT mode allows better performance in mineralised ground and runs a smooth audio. I like to use SAT with a slow to medium sweep and the meter to disc. The option of disc with faster sweep speed and good depth is there when needed. The Pro has auto ground balance and runs smoothly under most conditions if you are an experienced user. Many folks prefer the older models manual ground balance. Lots of options which make for a very versatile machine. Ideal of sports grounds and open fields, in disc it loves a snappy swing and covers ground fast. You can also set it up for low and slow, again lots of control for different circumstances. Depth is very good, most of the mentioned machines match each other for depth. Ergonomics, balance and weight favour the XL Pro as does the battery tray for AA cells. That big meter is a joy to use and look at. Again performance or depth with the machines mentioned is near identical, swing what gives you the most pleasure or fun. That smooth audio hum is a thing of beauty, makes for a pleasant hunt. All the best.
whitey's "dead nuts" accurate meter made for a very enjoyable hunt. the "black max" 5.3 concentric coil
was excellent in the trash. it seems that when that meter "locked up" on high penny, or dime, along with the nice "smooth" hit
ya always had silver. I would buy another one in a new York minute,IF I could find one for "short money!" the 4 pole design went deep, and was excellent for covering open sports fields, and other wide open parks. one of whitey's best!
(h.h.!)
j.t.
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I just missed my chance at the axiom with the mega bucks loss!
oooh well! ..just sayin'
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On 7/6/2022 at 3:00 PM, Gwcracker said:
Steve, the processed digital audio signal is not as informative as the analog unprocessed signal. That's where the true value of nuance would really be meaningful.
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this is correct! nuances afforded by analog are very telling ,IF you will take the time to ''study" and learn them.
once the Tesoro mojave,and compadre's audio is "learned",those detectors become "surgical instruments"
(h.h!
j.t.
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On 7/1/2022 at 1:25 PM, Minton said:
Hello everyone, I'm a user of The Legend and Xp Orx. I want to do a manual and sound-only search and have some nostalgia, but I want a device that is resistant to minerals and has good discrimination, do you think it can be tejon or vanquero?
it can be any of the "single tone" tesoros!..I'm partial to the mojave,
which I believe is still analog.
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19 minutes ago, Tom_in_CA said:
Cipher, the title of your post is : "Why I Tend Not To Post My Finds " But what you are talking about, would only happen if you paraded cool historic finds in front of purist archie types. And only then-so, if you're telling where you found the stuff. What you are talking about does not happen on md'ing forums like this.
Many of us post our show & tell on md'ing forums ALL THE TIME. And no one gets in touch with us saying : "You should donate that, blah blah"
So I think what you meant is, that you don't do your show & tell to purist museum archie type people. Right ?
And actually, most museums these days do not even say those things. They are OVERWHELMED with donations, from sincere well-meaning citizens. And unless you had something phenomenal (George Washington's personal wrist-watch), no one is going to be saying those things. About the only people that would say those things, are purist archies. And those types are NOT hanging out on md'ing forums ! 🤣
So: Post away ! Let's see you're bragging rights 🧐
tom! you can talk a 'snake" back into it's hole! ehe! heh !he!
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On 9/22/2021 at 1:32 PM, abenson said:
Had two Mojave's, one bought brand new the other used, I think new they were $285 if I remember right. I can't imagine paying more than about $300 for one no matter what the condition. But that's just me. Beep and digs can be both fun and frustrating. I'm all for the new tech now, Target ID, wireless headphones, multiple target tones, etc. I don't think I could go back.
$251.10 (new)
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j.t.
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On 8/14/2021 at 5:21 PM, GB_Amateur said:
DoD recommended when cherry picking silver, to set the discrimination high (he did say above nickels). What about discriminating out small aluminum when hunting in dense aluminum trash such as around picnic tables where there are oodles of pulltabs (old style and new style)? Does this kind of trashy area give the Tesoro+concentric an advantage over a ML Eqx 800 or similar modern digital detector? (I'm willing to miss the jewelry -- my typical old coin detecting concession.)
never hunted with the ex 800,but hunt with my "Mojave" all the time with high disc.
the Tesoro will find stuff in iron and aluminum just fine! they "recover" fast enough to separate well in the "junk!'
(h.h.!)j.t.
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On 4/7/2022 at 10:14 PM, Rick N. MI said:
Those Tesoro's are so smooth. No noise or chattering. You can go slow and listen for those good whispers.
they will totally ignore iron if set to eliminate, and "grab" nonferrous right in the middle of it!
isn't that what "tall money" detectors are trying to do?
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j.t.
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On 4/5/2022 at 11:21 AM, Johnnysalami1957 said:
These were 2" down in Tennessee red clay. Everyone is obsessed with depth. Buy a backhoe! The larger the coin the slower it will sink due to its surface area. In face they can rise on occasion. I regret selling my Silver Saber Umax. And my Bandito. I still have a Compadre which I use often for curb strips.
yeah! I use my "Mojave" for the strips too! great little sniper! both compadre and Mojave use the 180 disc.
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believe it or notyou don't always "need" to go deep to find good stuff!
tesoros will "grab" silver all day long with disc. set high! outrageous in iron,and
to cherry pick with! get one that balances out the ground and have at it! the 180 disc. and
small concentric will do the rest! still a ton of stuff in the "junk!" go low and slow!
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On 3/30/2022 at 3:33 AM, palzynski said:
The D1 had already this secret sauce in the iron trashed areas . It looks like the D2 FMF is at least equal than the D1 in the trash . I would say better knowing I have only used the 11" like you at the moment . Thanks for your very interesting report ...
secret is in the "sauce!" $1,500.00 "sauce!" "pretty sweet tasting!"
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On 8/12/2021 at 8:03 PM, dogodog said:
I just purchased a NIB Silver umax today. I started to use my Compadre about 3 weeks ago to cover some hunted out HaHa ground that I've been pounding with the 800. I've become aware that the 800 has a little problem masking out silver targets in areas with a lot of nails. I know some of you will tell me I'm using the wrong settings ect, ect. But after trying all the so called great settings from other users I still came up short and feeling like I missed some good targets. So for shits and giggles I pulled out the lowly 5 3/4'' Compadre and hit a few spots. Well now I saw a dramatic silver increase in some of my nail infested areas. There's a lot to be said for setting your Disc near max and just hunting the BEEP = Silver. A light bulb went off and I almost forgot how great Tesoro machines were at discrimination. So a few days ago I got the bug to find a Silver umax, for better depth. Lucky for me a member gave me a tip on a new one. As soon as I get it I will give it a good run. I think sometimes old school detectors will give the new ones a run for the money. I hope all tesoro fans take their machines for a walk once in a while, You might just have a good time.
tesoro single tone detectors with 6",or 7" concentric coils on board are "beasts " in iron
as you have determined with the compadre. if set properly, will "grab" silver in nails.
I have the "Mojave" with the 7" precision coil and use it to hunt "curb strips" with it's 180 disc. can pick out goodies in iron
all day long.compadre also has the 180 disc. beware the hunter who uses one detector, and knows it well.
(h.h.!)j.t.
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On 1/28/2022 at 12:02 PM, Steve Herschbach said:
I would like to call special attention to the glossary of terms starting on page 58. A great primer for beginners, if a tad dated. I think at some point I may tackle an updated version for this website, with the latest terms and acronyms included. But for anyone confused by terminology, the glossary in this booklet is one of the best.
Too bad they let the company die. I always appreciated Tesoro's support for the little guy, and their no BS approach to marketing.
every m.d.i. was loaded with practical, useful info.
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On 2/8/2022 at 12:14 PM, Geotech said:
Carl from White's here...
hi carl!
still feel bad about whitey! cut my teeth on their equipment!
I realize kenny was getting old, but still feel they should have loosened up
the purse strings, and brought a "sharp" engineering crew on board. found a 'ton" of stuff
with sweet home's designs...I'm just sayin'
(h.h.!)j.t.
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On 2/9/2022 at 10:57 PM, Geotech said:
I can probably tell you why. The chip shortage is crazy and chip prices are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling. When you can get any chips at all. At FTP we are scrambling to sub parts just to keep things in production and the prices are eye-popping.
On 2/9/2022 at 10:57 PM, Geotech said:I can probably tell you why. The chip shortage is crazy and chip prices are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling. When you can get any chips at all. At FTP we are scrambling to sub parts just to keep things in production and the prices are eye-popping.
mr. moreland! when is ftp comin' out with new stuff?
anything in "skunk works"? don't want them to lose their "place in line!"
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On 5/14/2021 at 7:11 AM, NCtoad said:
Not mine. I doubt if the seller will get that, but I thought it was a crazy high price. Seller also states that there were rumors that there were only 150 mojaves made.
heard the same rumor!
(h.h.!)j.t.
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this is spot on. if you take the time to "learn" the various "audio nuances", then the tesoro with a "small coil"
will reward you. the beauty of an analog tesoro is that you can run the disc. in max, and still get deep enough in "junked out"
parks to "pop" silver that's been missed by other high priced detectors.the "real" accomplishment though,is learning the "audio" on the various items in the ground. the tesoro "excels" in audio "modulation" on deeper hits.this gives additional information on the item detected, usually a deeper ''coin."
(h.h.!)
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10 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:
You and dog must have stock in Tesoro. Oh, wait,....
I missed a used 5.75" concentric on Ebay a couple weeks ago (someone took the Buy-it-now price on an auction lot). There used to be quite a few out there, it seemed, but the source has dried up. SeriousDetecting doesn't have them anymore. I do have the 8"x9" conc. Maybe I need to give that another chance.
the 6" and 7" concentrics are the best coils for tesoro. outrageous in nail beds, and iron.
am amazed the 5.75" can be found at all period.
(h.h.!)
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16 hours ago, dogodog said:
Sadly the Compadre has a fixed concentric, That's why I wanted the umax for the coil options. In the nails you just can't beat a Tesoro.
in my experience, this is "dead nuts" accurate!
(h.h.!)j.t.
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On 8/12/2021 at 8:03 PM, dogodog said:
I just purchased a NIB Silver umax today. I started to use my Compadre about 3 weeks ago to cover some hunted out HaHa ground that I've been pounding with the 800. I've become aware that the 800 has a little problem masking out silver targets in areas with a lot of nails. I know some of you will tell me I'm using the wrong settings ect, ect. But after trying all the so called great settings from other users I still came up short and feeling like I missed some good targets. So for shits and giggles I pulled out the lowly 5 3/4'' Compadre and hit a few spots. Well now I saw a dramatic silver increase in some of my nail infested areas. There's a lot to be said for setting your Disc near max and just hunting the BEEP = Silver. A light bulb went off and I almost forgot how great Tesoro machines were at discrimination. So a few days ago I got the bug to find a Silver umax, for better depth. Lucky for me a member gave me a tip on a new one. As soon as I get it I will give it a good run. I think sometimes old school detectors will give the new ones a run for the money. I hope all tesoro fans take their machines for a walk once in a while, You might just have a good time.
use a Tesoro "Mojave" w/7" thin concentric coil for hunting 'curb strips" sometimes for fun will set it for
'coins" in disc. like you, detector is a ton of fun, and "loves" silver! I get down around 7 or 8" with great audio modulation on deeper hits even in full disc. absolute "joy" to use.
(h.h.!)
j.t.
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the short answer is yes! Tesoro will be silent when set high with an occasional "crackle" on larger junk. you will find coins amongst the aluminum. Tesoro's are a ton of fun with a small concentric on board!
(h.h.!)
j.t.