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Its the same as before.  Menu->freq->+/-

You could still do custom programs in slots next together with identical settings besides freq like some have in the past for simple +/- button to cross check.

Thanks for some low conductor testing ideas.  It's definitely not my forte.

So I'm not a gold prospector and don't have gold around.  I do have a gram of gold of small pickers my son and I panned for fun.

What kind of test do you want to see done with the HF coil?  As a coin/park hunter and a few hours hunting with the new HF today I can definitely say it's not for me.  The lowest frequency isn't low enough to avoid the deus' affinity for calling aluminum/canslaw coins.  I typically use 8k or 12k.  The lowest on the new coils is ~13.3k - 15.6k.  The higher frequencies absolutely slam low conductors.  Nickel ID is 66 on 15k, 80 on 30k, and 87 on 55k.  zinc and higher is crammed in the 95-98 id range on the highest freq.  So great for micro jewelry hunters and prospectors.  I've started some vids on youtube with the same user but won't link since it could be viewed as advertising.  

The XY is most beneficial to coin shooters/ring finders in trashy parks IMO.  Which is a welcomed improvement.  Yes, I know it was there before but its implemented far better now.  I'm sure it's still not as good at identification as an FBS machine but then again nothing is.

I wouldn't expect relic hunters or gold prospectors to use XY. 

33 minutes ago, Sourdough Scott said:

Just wondering, and may have already been asked. Will the new V4 upgrade have any improvements on the 3.2 I already have with stock coils . 

 

Yes, several.  Basically everything besides number 6 applies to everyone.

Version 4 New Features and Menus

1 New XY Display
Within the Profile menu is the XY screen option, the XY is an oscilloscope display and can be used as the main screen. The XY display may offer a better visual discrimination aid for certain targets that do not have a specific signature, such as certain large ferrous items, bottle caps etc. The display resolution of the XY trace has 10 levels of magnification thanks to a Zoom function accessible by pressing the Pinpoint button for 2 seconds.

2 New Reactivity 2.5
This level of fast and effective reactivity is a perfect default setting; it represents a good compromise especially when searching new terrain.

3 Improved Programs No10 & No4
Prog 10 Gold field: Advanced audio response and reactivity responses have been added. Excellent performance especially when used in conjunction with the new HF coils…now difficult targets can easily be detected in mineralized ground. Prog 4 Pitch: Added iron volume and the new reactivity of 2.5 has made pitch more dynamic.

4 Improved ferrous discrimination range
For those who search in all Metal, the negative discrimination of 0 to -6.4 now makes it possible to hear ferrous targets which in the past have been silent or partially rejected. The lower discrimination range can also enhance the signature from deep targets which may have originally been rejected. The lower discrimination can also be an advantage when searching for difficult targets such as ceramics or even meteorites.

5 Ground Effects
Advanced ground tracking, especially on weak or low mineralized soils. Each frequency adjusts to its own ground effect value. Improved overall signal processing on difficult ground.

6 Display and signal processing compatible with the new HF coils
When using a 21-frequency HF coil, the display is now capable of handling detecting frequencies up to 80kHz (18kHz before), as well as 7 frequency offsets (compared to 3 previously).

7 DEUS has a compatibility with a Smartphone
Target and ground data can now be sent via link to a smartphone. The new application will soon be available for the Deus, features include : Mapping of detected signals, view / save your search tracks, log finds plus much more, all accessed from and your smartphone (soon available on the web).

8 New program No 9 «HOT»
HOT «The Pro setting» this is a find everything program, based on the Full Tone audio mode with a very low discrimination. Hot is a very interactive program offering excellent feedback and target information.

9 New program No 6 «DEEP»
Pro setting for locating deep targets, with moderate discrimination and specific signal processing Improved Non motion Mode Non motion modes are now more advanced offering better identification on a wider target range, with an improved sensitivity to small targets.

10 Improved Non motion Mode
Non motion modes are now more advanced offering better identification on a wider target range, with an improved sensitivity to small targets.

11 Miscellaneous
Thanks to advances in software, the microprocessor can now work much faster. Navigating the menu is smoother than previous Deus versions, with improved processing. The remote control and the headphones still have a respectable battery life of between 18 and
20 hours.

• Normalization is now a menu feature on XP headphones.
• The headphone volume is stored when the unit is switched off.
• The serial number is now used as the coil name.
• Deleting a coil is done by replacing all the characters with 0.
• Audio tones now have a higher range – 120 to 993 Hz.
• Target Normalization mode ON is now the default.

Note: When HF coils are fitted there will be no normalization or TX gain setting available in the menu.

I didn't realize they made the XY screen a standard option and added ID and ground Numbers to the screen.  This is the best V4 addition IMO.  Pin Pointer looks very impressive as well with or without a Deus.

1 hour ago, khouse said:

My distributor is taking my MXS back with full refund plus they are covering the shipping as well.  I can't say enough about my distributor.  Honest nice folks trying to scratch out a living.  This MXS came off of Whites latest shipments to the distributor.  Whites told them that all new machines have all the updates.  Well I guess except mine and Craigs and maybe yours???????? 

Well I did get it back yesterday and whatever update they are on now it pretty dialed in.  It's a shame it's a heavy breast at 1.7 oz more than my etrac.  Performance is top shelf now.  But I'm too soured to care.

I wouldn't trust Guvner's explaination. 

I was a sponsor before.  Decided to not renew and stated as such.  Few months go buy and I wasn't removed from sponsor list.  He emailed and said he forgot and asked again to renew and I stated again I was not renewing.  This time my user which had years of pre-dealer posts was removed and he made a post stating I hadn't paid my bill for months.  

Now read the Tesoro post again with this knowledge.

That is all.

3 hours ago, khouse said:

Well it's been several months since my initial order of 3 MXSports.  I had dropped shipped 2 of them and 1 was for me.  All 3 had the initial issues as the feedback came in from my customers.  They however had no issue in sending them back in for repair especially for the price I sold them for. One even had to send his back another time because the pinpoint was weak.  So I just quit pushing the MXS's..  Fast forward to last Tuesday (7/5/16)  I find out from my wife that she's planned a 3 day trip to the Table Rock Lake area. Well since I had sold my waterproof Compadre last fall I was desperate for another waterproof machine.  So I figured I would give the MXS another shot.  After all I've been a dealer since 1985 and using a machine at my cost is always a plus.  I figured by now all the bugs would be smoothed out and maybe even some more software updates might have been done that no one knows about..???  So I get my shiny new machine yesterday.  I get home from work and put it all together and head to my coin garden. It was no better than my 1st one!  In fact it's worse because this one's pinpoint feature is weak to non existent! So I then check the SAT to see if it goes to 8 to prove it has the updated firmware - it only goes to 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!  By now I'm actually pissed!!!  I am so happy I didn't drop ship it to a customer.  Then to make matters worse I start checking the whole machine out.  I found 4 cracks in the clear face around the sealing point!!  I found 2 right in the upper corners as posted by others.  This is not my distributors problem.  This is Sweet Homes problem!!  I emailed my distributor and said I wanted a brand new machine but not before they check for cracks, pinpoint issues and the SAT that goes to 8.  I am not sending this POS machine back to Sweet Home and wait a month or better to get a used machine back!!  So for all you buying a new machine have your dealer or distributor take it out of the box and check it.  This is going to save you a ton of headaches. 

Same distributor, same exact issues minus the cracks on mine.  Will be back Monday after nearly 3 week hiatus.  hopefully it works and isn't cracked. :(

Wish dealers got this kind of cross ship service instead of having units/cash tied up traveling to and from Sweet Home for vacation instead of being able to be used or sold. :(

On 7/5/2016 at 1:39 PM, tboykin said:

Give us a call to check on your detector - 1-541-367-6911. We're trying to get with the times but a phone call still seems to be the best way to get a quick response here.

I already got a prompt email response yesterday.  However it was "get to it when we can" type of response.  :(

Things must be backed up again.  Mine has been there since.  

Unfortunately with the holiday and 4 day delivery back and forth to MO I'm looking at 3 week turn around.  Didn't expect better, just reporting an update.

I called a few hours ago and will get it updated.  That's just the one that I plan on evaluating.  Others...it's just a crap shoot for the dealer and the consumer.  Do you open the seal and still sell as new/used/demo?  Open it up and if not updated send in to update and then sell as new? demo? used?  Sell as new and sealed and have the customer deal with it if they notice... maybe they wont?  This last one is from White's the one option I'm absolutely against and pretty sad it was even suggested.

Sadly, I'm thinking get them all updated if need and just clear them out.  Just avoid the MX Sport for another 6 months.

The silver lining is White's support and service is second to none and always makes it right and then some.  Hopefully this is just a growing pain as the design direction of machines is improving for sure.

White's isn't the only manufacture that has some issues.  I set the bar very high for my own level of service and products, but we can all fail at times.

I posted here because White's is following this thread as well as consumers/users.  Perhaps this could help them and their distribution chain communication.  Also, they are just now open in the last hour or so I thought I may get some insight sooner posting.

I purposely waited a couple months to add the line in hopes all units would now be current in all distribution channels but no...not the case.  Sigh...

I'm a multi-line dealer that just added whites.  I was told the mx sports i ordered were latest firmware.  However, the one i just opened to demo only has 6 sat and pin point volume to only about 6" depth.  This seems like its not current.  How is a dealer to know the detectors he or she sells is as advertised?  This is very discouraging.