TallTom

My aging, arthritic hands made me decide to look for a reasonably-priced, slightly smaller, tough, stainless steel scoop for my beach detecting. My bigger scoop enticed me into digging up overly heavy scoops of wet sand, which wore out my hands (and back and shoulders) too quickly.

I ended up getting a Quest Scoopal model, and it's been working well for me. It's available from many sources, but here's one with some details (at $100):

  https://detectors1.com/products/scoopal®-sand-scoop

It comes without a handle (although it's often sold with an optional handle at higher price). I went to a hardware store and bought an oak shovel/pick handle for about $10-12, I think. I figured I'd try this wood handle first, then switch to something lighter weight later if necessary.  I'm still using the wood, however.  In my opinion, this combo is worth considering.

As requested by JCR, here's the Monty Python clip of the "Bring out your dead" and "Not dead yet" scene.

On 7/15/2023 at 4:34 PM, relicmeister said:

Who’s going to be the first to introduce an AI assisted detector- not sure what that assist would look like, but you know it’s going to happen at some point. 

Maybe I'm just a bit cynical, but I suspect some company's marketing department will claim their new detector is AI assisted, but their engineering department will be reluctant to agree.

Just FYI, there's a free app called "SuperVision+ Magnifier" for the iPhone, and possibly for other smartphones also.  It's very useful for getting extreme closeup views/photos.

Thanks, Steve.

The club is still in existence, but we decided to save money by closing the website. Now we rely on Facebook. (God help us.)

Regarding those two "Tarsacci Usage Notes" documents:

I'm the one who created them. I posted them on our detecting club website.

That's where the link takes you.

HOWEVER, we are about to shut down the club website.  Those documents will no longer be readable shortly.

Steve H, would you like to post them on your website, along with all your other useful info?  Feel free to copy them here or tell me where to upload them.  Thanks.

Definitely a very nice find.

If you take it to a jeweler, most likely he/she will simply do the same kind of acid test you did, although maybe a slightly more sophisticated test, or with a more experienced eye to judge the results.

From Clay's posting:

"...How far away can you see a mining claim sign when you are wandering around prospecting on that claim? Can you read a sign 1/4 mile away? That's the distance between corners on a 160 acre claim. ..."

You made an excellent, well-written posting, Clay, but you have one minor math error. (I'm sure someone else will correct me if I'm wrong.)

If 160 acres is in the shape of a square, the distance from one corner to an adjacent corner is 1/2 mile, not 1/4 mile. So that makes your point even stronger -- it's much too far to read any sign on the next corner.

Here's the math. One square mile is 640 acres. (Look it up.) Imagine a plot of land that's square, one mile on each side. That's one  square mile. Divide it into quarters. Each square is one quarter of 640 acres, or 160 acres.  Each edge is 1/2 mile long on each 160 acre plot.

As I said, it's only a minor correction I'm making, but it makes your point even better because the distance is doubled.

8 hours ago, danielbecerra said:

Hola a todos, devuelta a este foro, leyendo todos los comentarios referente a los multifrecuencia, solo práctico buceo y busco joyería, he llevado durante 5 años cz21 y whites beach Hunter (recomendación de Steve) ambos me dan muy buenos resultados en agua salada, en una semana me llegará el deus 2, con kit de buceo y plato de 11', lo sometere directamente al agua salada ya que aquí en Europa es temporada de tormentas, prometo dar un análisis muy sincero referente al agua salada, aclarar que lo he pagado íntegramente, no tengo la presión de ninguna marca de detectores, mi compañero lleva nox800 y da muy buenos resultados, les informaré cuando lo tenga en mis manos con los test correspondientes bajo el agua 

 

Un saludo

I ran this through Google translate, and here's what came out:

Hello everyone, back to this forum, reading all the comments regarding the multifrequency, I only practice diving and I am looking for jewelry, I have worn cz21 and whites beach Hunter for 5 years (Steve's recommendation) both give me very good results in salt water, In a week I will get the deus 2, with a diving kit and 11 'plate, I will subject it directly to salt water since here in Europe it is stormy season, I promise to give a very sincere analysis regarding salt water, to clarify that I have paid in full, I do not have the pressure of any brand of detectors, my partner wears nox800 and gives very good results, I will inform you when I have it in my hands with the corresponding tests under water

Here's a partial answer for Flydog.  The US Nickel comes in at 6 when using 9 kHz on the MDT 8000.

This is a chart I created during my early experiments, showing various rings and US coins. (PDF format)

Tarsacci MDT 8000 Jewelry Air Test Results.pdf

10 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

.. so I want to see the audio options in the manual, and hear the sound on a video more than anything else.

I emailed Dilek a couple of weeks ago, offering to help edit (gratis) the English language version of the User Manual,

which I've done for several of their other detectors (Impact, Kruzer, Racer 2).  She hasn't replied, so they apparently have all the English language editing they want already.  (Or else she's so busy she can't get to all her email.)

I'm still hoping I'll get to see a draft of the manual soon, but if so, I'll likely be under nondisclosure limitations.

However, if I'm able and allowed to disclose, I will.

These headphones are not on the Nokta website yet.  Hopefully they will be listed soon,

so we can see the full specs.

Hey, RR, did you mean Lighting or Lightning?

You're certainly free to pick either one, but I would think Lightning might be better.

It's a collection of subforums, here:

https://www.geotech1.com/forums/forum.php

This is an interesting product.  I looked on the website and didn't see any instruction booklet or assembly instructions.

Maybe it's so simple that none are needed.

However, I was hoping to read them so I could understand better how the adjustment mechanism works, and how long I could extend the long handle, and whether any longer extension might be available (or possible for the user to rig together).  I'm tall, and "normal" length products often don't fit me.

Also, of course, I'd be happy to offer edits to the instructions if I thought any would be useful.  I've done that for previous Nokta Makro products. (Dilek has quickly incorporated my suggestions, so I guess they were welcome.)  And now that I live near the beach, I could actually do some thorough testing!

Are instructions coming?

Ditto from me on the Nokta/Makro Multi Kruzer.

Lightweight, good target IDs, easy to use, nice readable display, good wireless headphones.  Great overall package.

I use three tone in a really trashy park to pick out good targets, and four tone if not so much trash to search deeper.

For regular beach usage, I agree.  I use Mixed mode.  It gives me more information than Disc.

However, for trashy parks or yards, I've had some success with Disc mode, and it's less tiring to listen to.

Aaron--

Maybe I wasn't clear enough.

The video in this thread is about a quarter.  The thread's title says it's about a gold coin.  I think you put the wrong video in this thread.  It's the same  video you posted in your other thread, the one about a quarter.

I look forward to your video about a gold coin when you post it.

Whoops!  This video is the same one you posted on the other thread, using a quarter, not a gold coin.

Try again!  Thanks for making the videos.

The link in the original poster's message is no longer good.

Here's a link in the same publication that mentions the finding of the hammer by a detectorist:

  https://www.plumasnews.com/keddie-murders-revisited-following-the-clues/

Note that the murders took place in 1981 and the hammer was found in 2016.

Interesting videos.  Seemed like pretty fair and reasonable comparisons.

I would have liked to see the other two frequencies (6.4 and 12) tried on the MDT 8000.  Variations in sweep speed and angle would also be nice.

I'm sure some additional settings for the Nox would have also been interesting.  Nox experts can suggest some, certainly.

But that's the nature of test videos -- we all see other settings and techniques we'd like added.

Glad to see these posted.  Hope to see more!

Wow!

Are there ANY detectors that can find targets even an inch into that NZ "sand"?

I'd think even PI machines would struggle.

My impression is that Tarsacci is a small operation and is NOT making anything like 100 detectors at a time.

That being said, they might not be meticulously running a FIFO operation where the latest created unit goes to the end of the line for shipment to customers and has the highest, sequential serial number.  My point was simply that we can't draw many conclusions from the serial numbers seen so far. In fact, I think the most likely conclusion from what we've seen reported is that the relationship between serial number and date of sale is pretty casual.

On your other point, your info is the first I've read about a special coil for NZ.  I've seen nothing on the long thread (56 pages) on the DankowskiDetectors forum about the MDT 8000.  If that coil truly exists, it will be interesting to see how well the special coil works when comparing the MDT 8000's field results with other detectors, such as the Equinox, which I assume use only standard NOX coils in NZ.

It looks to me like Tarsacci is not assigning serial numbers chronologically.

I bought mine new in early January, 2020, and I have serial number 000055 R1.

I'm guessing these non-chronological numbers are part of their plan to keep sales figures confidential.

  --Tom

5 hours ago, Denny said:

Been hitting the dried up river and haven’t found anymore gold other than the one I found in November.   So I decided to go for the silver.  Dug up 2 silver coins in a littered  gravel area.  Not bad for a New Year’s Day hunt.
The MDT is good for park hunting also.  Dug a deep 1888 V nickel close to 10 inches. My CTX couldn’t do that.  
 

Settings:   At the dry river.    Sens 9 max, threshold 0, mixed mode, blacksand on, 9khz or 18khz.

park: sens 8, threshold -1, mixed mode, blacksand on, 18khz.  
 

 

Nice results!  Multiple silver finds make any day a good day.

I see you had Black Sand ON at both sites.  Was that just a random choice, or did you find that it gave you either better depth or less chatter, or what?  I assume you didn't have any actual black sand at these sites.  Or did you?