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  1. Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc.
    30 points
  2. I wish I'd have filmed it. I went to the river with my family this afternoon. I specifically picked a beach that I knew would be heavily populated, so I could do a little jewelry hunting, while the family enjoyed the water. The river was indeed VERY busy. I was making my way around the shoreline when a gentleman spoke up, and said he had lost a wedding band the week before. He said this mostly in jest. I asked him where exactly he lost it, and he pointed to the opposite end of the river (A deeper area, probably 6-8ft). I told him if I came across it I'd return it to him. I didn't really feal like being fully submerged; I get real cold, real fast. The knowledge that a ring was possibly just sitting there was too much to bear. I knew, what I was looking for (A large black tungsten ring), and I knew where to look. I made my way over to the deep end. The water was up to my neck, with a slow current. I put my equinox into Field 1. Im usually looking for gold jewelry, and run in Park 2. I figured Field 1 would sound off better on tungsten, but honestly wasn't completely sure. My first couple targets were trash (pulltabs, and metal flakes) My third, or fourth target came threw loud, with a 10-11 on the VDI. I knew 10-11 was exactly the number I was looking for (My previous tungsten rings have all came threw in that range). I took a deep breath, and went under. I had no goggles, but I had my pinpointer. I released all my breath underwater so I'd sink, and with my pinpointer under my right thumb, I began to grab handfuls of river bottom, waiting for the vibration to follow the pinpointer into my hand. This lets me know I have the target. The ring was only an inch or so, and it only took one attempt to get a handful of river bottom with the target inside. I surfaced, and stared at my hand, waiting for the ability to see what I had. There it was, a large black tungsten ring. I made my way back to the family, and asked the man's wife where her husband had gone "he went to the bathroom", she said. I told her, I found her husband's ring, and, victoriously held it up. The wife, and various onlookers were astonished. I was so excited, not only to get the target, but to be able to return it. I ran into the husband on the way to tell my wife, and let him know. It took a little bit to convince him, but I assured him I was serious. He told me it was a 700$ ring that he used in place of his nicer band while at work. He offered to pay, but I couldn't accept. I finally know the feeling of retrieving, and returning a wedding band, and it was just as good as finding a keeper.
    30 points
  3. Yesterday I was meant to be cleaning up my garage, I'd made a mess of it and the boss told me it must be returned to normal but fortunately for me JW contacted me first thing in the morning asking if I wanted to go for a detect. This was enough for the "boss" to tell me I can do the garage today instead... yet here I am 🙂 We took the coils to a spot we've both detected a lot, a huge amount really but it was a good testing ground for the Coiltek's due to the high EMI envrionment, powerlines, buildings, airport, it's got them all 🙂 I knew from my initial testing at home the Coilteks were working A LOT better for me than my 11" coil, and I now suspect I've had a faulty 11" coil since I got my detector and it explains why I didn't like the 6000. I went over ground I'd done with the 11" coil as a bit of a test for the 10x5" Coiltek, I'd done this ground to the best of my ability and JW has been hammering it too, he's got quite a bit out of this area too. I didn't take many photos as I think most people are more interested in how the coils behave more so than photos of them. We arrived at about 10am, mostly the ground wasn't frozen except in shady spots which was handy as it's been frozen a lot lately. JW put on my Coiltek 14x9" and I used the Coiltek 10x5". It wasn't even 10 minutes and JW comes walking up as he'd found his first bit of gold with the 14x9", right near where we put our bags down, off to an incredible start, I'm guessing it's about .2 to .3 of a gram. Down in the bedrock too. Off to a good start for an area we've done so much. My first target I was sure was going to be gold ended up being a shot pellet, I really have no idea how pellets get into places like this, but they do. I had to move giant rocks by levering them with my pick and dropping them off the cliff, it took a lot of effort and I'm amazed how strong the Davsgold picks are, the jobs I do with them moving and lifting rocks is pretty incredible that they don't break. JW had lost his pick on a previous visit to this area, left it behind somewhere when he left, we were hoping we'd find it but as someone else had been detecting there too ( we could tell by dig holes ) there was a likelihood it was gone. I thought I'd upload this video as it shows the pains of detecting 🙂 The next target shortly after was only a few steps away from this one and it turned out to be a nugget. I'd missed this one in the past as it was well hidden, I had to smash out some of a bush to get the coil under there to even detect the ground, I'd not done that before but when you're in an area you've flogged to death you need to do these things in the hope of finding something. Here is a bit of a video of the find, as with most of my videos just raw footage, I don't like editing as to me raw footage is more informative than a chopped up and edited video. I was happy with the performance of the 10x5", a real game changer for me as I'm confident my 11" is faulty, it's away at the moment at the service agent to be checked, they can't look at it until next week so I'm eagerly awaiting their results, if it's not faulty its a piece of junk and will become a sacrificial lamb to get the one part of it I find valuable, it's chip, if its faulty then maybe I'll be happier with the replacement, soon find out. I switched the detector on and even though in a very high EMI environment and with JW detecting close by with his 6000 I had no significant EMI issues, I didn't even need to noise cancel although I did do one, I didn't need to regularly noise cancel and factory reset often like I did with the stock coil either, in fact unless right near the power lines a noise cancel was never required. Not once during the entire day did my detector go nutty, no police sirens or UFO sounds, nothing! Such a contrast to my stock coil that literally drove me mad, I was so frustrated with the detector I wanted to smash it. I was able to tilt the coil and go up and detect cliffs and nothing, no problems, if anything slightly higher EMI when off the ground due to the interference in this high EMI area from the power lines mostly. Nothing that I'd consider an issue that's for sure. This is the first day prospecting with the 6000 I actually found it enjoyable and started to like the detector. Here is a video showing my experience around and under the power lines with the Coilteks, this is a very high EMI area with houses nearby, power lines obviously, an International airport very close by, I mostly dedicated this to the 14x9" as we all know the bigger the coil the worse the EMI and I think it handled the situation very well, not quite GPZ with small X-coil or Concentric capability as I can run that maxed out under the same lines and keep it stable but for a GPX it did remarkably well I think. These Coiltek's for me are soooooo much better than my possibly faulty 11". My second nugget of the day was one I was more impressed with, it was in a little bedrock area JW and I have both hammered with our 6000's, in the video I said I did this spot with my 8" X-coil on the GPZ but I was in fact wrong, It was my GPX and 11" I did it with, and found a bit of gold within about 15 inches of this nugget using the 11" so we both missed this bit for some reason, The piece of gold I found the last time I used my 6000 was so close to where this one was, in the same line of bedrock only and only about 15 inches away, JW jogged my memory by reminding me the bit I found next to this one in this video was the bit where he came over with his GPX 6000 and 17x13" and even as we dug it out further the 17x13" was completely blind to it until it was near touching the coil. So, after a day of using between the 10x5" and 14x9" I am much happier with my GPX 6000, the majority of problems I had with it are resolved by changing to these coils, if it was that I had a faulty 11" coil then that's great news but if not and these are just that much better than the 11" coil then that's fine by me. The major complaint I had from the day was the shaft twist, especially with the 14x9" coil, not the coils fault by any means but something to be aware of. JW ended up with 2 nuggets also, very similar sizes to mine, one smaller and one bigger one. Getting any in this particular area is very much a challenge these days but a good testing ground. My 6000 went flat so it was game over for me but I went over to JW who had a signal in some bedrock he was trying to smash out, quite close to the power lines and his 11" was working to an acceptable level there I thought but he said some days his is better than others, my 11" would have been doing police sirens and all sorts of strange noises in that same spot. It was a very faint signal and he couldn't smash it out with his pick, the rock was too hard so he's going to have to go back with some heavy equipment, I had the 14x9" on at the time and turned on my detector and it lasted long enough after a rest turned off to go over that target and it got no signal, but that's not a surprise I already figured out the 11" was slightly more sensitive to tiny gold than the 14x9", we are confident it was a tiny bit of gold, so he'll go back and get it. I'm more confident the 10x5" would have had a signal on that target than the 14x9", it's significantly more sensitive to smaller targets. So yes, I now like my 6000 except a few things about it like the wobby shaft and questionable reliability, but it's not going to replace my GPZ, not even close, I still much prefer the GPZ but I'm lucky in that I have a great range of coils for it. And JW ended up finding his lost pick! So a good day for all.
    29 points
  4. When prospecting, I try to keep an eye on everything around me. In this case I thought I was in formation about 95 million years old. With the K-T boundary above me, I was keeping a close eye on the rocks around me for dino fossils. I've found a lot of invertebrates before - clams, bacculites, ammonites, etc. I've found leaves, fish, and small mammal (mice) bones in younger formations, but never a dino bone before. Finally found my first one in the wild! It's well embedded in the rock. It's a sandstone/conglomerate, probably representing an old river delta or braided channels. So unfortunately this bone was a 1-off. A dinosaur died and the bones probably got spread asunder in an ancient river. I looked everywhere for the missing pieces, but this was it. You can really see the bone structure close up. I took the photos to a paleontologist at a local museum and he said he thought it was likely some part of the hip structure. He gave me some latin name for the exact bone but it went in one ear and out the other. It's just the end joint part, the rest of the leg or whatever it was has broken off. So unfortunately he said it wasn't of scientific interest to them since it was just a 1-off, and broken. But still, I've been wandering the hills since I was a child and in 3 decades I've never found a real vertabrate dinosaur bone. Pretty dang cool in my book, and one of my favorite finds ever! Was a long field trip, doing some exploration. Got some nuggets too. Nothing impressive, but almost paid for gas anyways. Popped these out with the 15" CC X Coil. I love being the first coil on a site, it's so much easier to really understand a patch and area seeing where each and every nugget came from. Well actually, not the first coil, the first coil was the 11" on the 6000, I discovered this spot with the 6000 and then brought the big gun in to have a look at what laid deeper. On that size/type gold I'm getting 2x the depth with the GPZ/15cc. Easy. Maybe more.
    29 points
  5. It's a 1875 six-pence! Featuring a very youthful looking Queen Victoria.. There've been really high tides over the last few days and I noticed a huge amount of sand had been eroded from a place I call the 'Silver Mine'.. I thought I'd use the Deus II this time rather than the Equinox to see if it could sniff out some deep silver.. It did so in fine style.. Excluding the Chinese coin, this is the oldest coin I've found so far.. It's a bit rough looking but considering the amount of tide changes it has endured I'd say it's a charmer..
    25 points
  6. No, but I fear it will be too expensive in Oz, hurting sales. Look at 24K price there - twice what it sells for here. Horrible exchange rate right now making it worse. That alone should insulate Minelab. Yeah, it’s a great machine. Not going to put Minelab out of business, but a powerful detector, fun to use. Now that the initial burst is over, my main desire is to shut up and go detecting with it. I’ll not ignore people, but I’m also not going to get stuck in the position of being a defender of the Axiom, or a person trying to convince anyone of anything. Frankly, I just don’t care, not my problem. I lobbied Garrett forever on this, they finally listened, I did my best to help make it a good machine. I did not get everything, but I got a lot, and I’m happy. But I’ve grown to hate the internet drama over new machines, and if I did not have so much time invested in this website, would go offline entirely. It’s only you, my forum family, that keep me online at all. But I prefer peace more than anything, and so am going to more or less shut up now. Gerry will hopefully take the lead on all this. To everyone. Don’t get all giddy, caught up in a “new thing”, buy it, and then be a vocal baby when it does not do what you thought it would. Be wise, slow down, get more info first. Let others be the guinea pigs if you are unsure at all. It’s just a metal detector, not gods gift to humanity. It does not negate Minelab having some great metal detectors. Many Minelab owners can just go on using what they have, no worries. New buyers now have a new option, that’s all. But all the drama? No thanks. Be adults, take responsibility, sort it out, and leave the BS to the YouTube drama brigade. Count me out! Just call me an old man in second childhood, having the time of his life, having fun with new toys. Meeting and hanging out with fun people from Garland, having some people pay attention to what I have to say when making a new detector…. life is very good my friends. Whether anyone likes the Axiom or not, I just don’t care. I like it, and that’s good enough for me. Peace, and best wishes to all of you!! Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc.
    25 points
  7. Just some pictures of my two favorite configurations, Garrett Axiom with 7" x 11" mono (4lbs 3.8oz) and Minelab GPX 6000 with 11" round mono (4lbs 8.6oz). Weighed on my postal scales as configured, both perfectly balanced, a real joy to swing and use. Mainly wanted to give people a look at the "look," and general proportions of both detectors. Click or double click photos to see or download full size versions. The Axiom coil looks "longer" than the 6000 coil in the photo, but that's an optical illusion. I just measured both coils, GPX is 11" round, and Axiom is a true 7" x 11" modified elliptical. Both excellent examples of what we should be getting in way of easy swinging, ergonomic PI detectors. Finally! Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc. Minelab GPX 6000 & Garrett Axiom Minelab GPX 6000 & Garrett Axiom Minelab GPX 6000 & Garrett Axiom Minelab GPX 6000 & Garrett Axiom Minelab GPX 6000 11" round mono & Garrett Axiom 7" x 11" elliptical mono
    24 points
  8. Times are tough out on the range, those lunkers elusive as can be, but gold fever still going after 30 years and I can't shake it off nor do I want to. These days finding 1 piece regardless of the weight is a big WIN for me. For me just being out in the foothills of the Sierras brings me peace and relaxation, at times I find a piece of that rare yellow metal we call gold. Yesterday was that day, I was armed with my 4500 and 11 inch mono commander coil hiked up to the small creek and started to work the side bench with the intentions of using my hearing skills and digging the slightest rise and fall of the threshold. It was about an hour or so until I finally sensed a change in the threshold and did the usual boot drag, put the coil over the bare ground and the threshold just a bit more noticeable. Digging down an inch at a time until I got down to about 3 inches I saw this golden ray of light like the rays of the sun blinding ones eyes when driving directly 😳 into the sun's direction, blinding me. I reached down with my hand and grabbed it with a smile 😃 so wide and a feeling of ✌ VICTORY. My years of experience and ears tuned to the slightest change in threshold led me to another piece of gold! Regardless of the detector coil combo you use in the right hands these old coils have the ability to still sniff out gold. This is my little 🏆 of the day..a small piece but a little victory these days. Hope today I find the big brother.
    21 points
  9. Seriously Simon you’re comparing something you actually have with something you don’t (and YES we all get that you’re not happy with your 6000 because every time you post you’re constantly reminding us of how displeased you are 🥱 ). I for one am really looking forward to having a play with the Axiom when they become available, most likely I will actually buy one this time round whereas the ATX I didn’t due to the excess weight etc. Am I expecting the Axiom to attain the be-all & end-all of metal detectors? Get real!! It’s a metal detector!! 😂 Every detector I’ve ever owned has had a compromise in one way or another, I’m more interested in what it CAN do than what it CAN’T!! I already know what my Minelab machines can do because I’ve been doing it, I’ve learned how to get the best out of them through hundreds and hundreds of hours using them and very successfully I might add. I’m sure I can pretty damn quickly start getting the best out of an Axiom too, Steve and Gerry seemed to have managed it easily enough. 😉 Some of the gold I got in a few hours with my GPX6000 last session, I had to listen through all the shot gun pellets near the surface and focus on the edge of detection signals at depth, it paid off.
    21 points
  10. Just fitted the test 26" CC X Coil. Let the fun begin!
    21 points
  11. Halfway thru season now. 834 micro bits from private property. GPX6000 got 5-10 of these before I parted ways with it, the rest using tools in pic. We'll weigh up the totals around Thanksgiving.... Good luck out there......
    21 points
  12. I will be blunt. I've been detecting for 50 years now, and swore I was done being involved on the back end, with the development type stuff. It was too tempting however when this opportunity arose to end my efforts in that regard with an American based company. I've been very disappointed to see our once unassailable lead in detecting basically frittered away by the arrogance of the U.S. manufacturers. It was my faith in Steve Novakovich that made me decide to get back on the horse again for one last ride, and I'm glad I did. The folks from Garland are just a solid group of great people, and being able to get behind and truly believe in a U.S. company again, is a breath of fresh air. I hope this is the start of more great things to come from Garrett in the future, but for now, I'm just so happy at least one U.S. company is stepping up to the plate, to give it a serious effort. For that, they are winners in my book.
    21 points
  13. Here is my dynamic duo. If I had to own the least number of detectors possible myself, this is what I would settle on. I can basically do anything with these two detectors. Gold nuggets, coins, jewelry, relics, beach & snorkel work, you name it, this has it pretty well covered. You can argue some other detector might be better than one of these for this or that, and I'll not argue with anyone. But the Axiom plus my Micronox (trademark pending ) weigh in at a hair over 7 lbs total, and obviously take up next to no room in my rig. Various Micronox Options Here
    20 points
  14. Yesterday I hit an old house site that I’ve hit many times before. Actually it’s multiple old house sites from an old textile mill. There’s a new larger plant where the old textile mill used to be, but all the old houses are long gone and there’s a huge grassy area in front of the new factory where all the old houses stood. You’re not allowed to detect this grassy area. I know because I got asked to leave about a year ago. However, there’s a city hike/bike trail that goes right next to part of the grassy area and I can still hunt there. In the past when I brazenly detected the main grassy area😇, I found quite a few silver coins and some cool relics. But now all I’m left with is a small area by the trail that is yielding less and less finds. I did manage to find an old toy car, a rifle casing and an old lock. I did get two wheaties but no silver. So, the 39 nickels. What’s up with that? Well this morning I decided to hit my son’s high school for a clad hunt. A while back pre-deus II, I used my nox and got $33 in clad out of there in one afternoon. Then a time after that I got around $17 and few more times close to $10 each time. Needless to say this place hasn’t been detected in a long time. Today I got $12.08, but the amazing thing is I dug 39 nickels! That’s a new nickel record for me! I mostly used two programs: Rattleheads silver slayer and my own GCOIN3. The GCOIN3 (general, used for coins, 3 tones) is based on the general program with disc at 7 and notches from 7-57 and 66-80 with 3 tones. The silver slayer is similar but based on the Fast program with disc at 7 and notches from 7-59 and 65-87 with pitch tones. With both I had the sensitivity at 80 (the lowest sense I’ve ever used with the D2) and reactivity at 3. Both programs are like lasers at picking out coins from the trash. I don’t know why I got so many nickels. I was digging everything in the 60s. Sometimes the TID was consistent but the tones sounded bad and other times the tones sounded really good but the numbers were really jumpy. On some the tones were so bad that I normally would have passed on digging, but today I just wanted to experiment and most ended up being nickels. You can see the amount of pulltabs I dug. The half square tabs sounded really good and were indistinguishable from a good textbook nickel signal.
    20 points
  15. I haven’t posted much of anything for the past month or so. However I did take a trip to upstate NY last month to visit my sister. I found out her old farmhouse was built in 1785. I had detected it about 5 years ago while I still had my very first detector, a FisherF70. Back then I found a good bit of clad, a few wheaties, but no silver or anything really old. This time I took the D2 and got a few decent finds, but nothing really exciting. Since that time with the f70, they’ve moved a lot of ground around as they are remodeling the house and yard. This time a did get a silver though, a really nice 1945 war nickel. I also got a big copper that’s devoid of any markings because it’s so toasted. I’m pretty sure though that it’s a large cent because it’s the exact same size as the only other large cent that I’ve found. In the pic it’s the one without the hole in it. I also found a nice musket ball that must have been dropped before it was fired because of its intact sprue. It measures around .630 in diameter, so maybe that’s a .69 caliber with the patch? I’ll have to get a pic of it. After coming back to NC after the NY trip I hit three mercs at two different sites. One was a park that’s about 25 minutes away that I had yet to detect with the deus. I’ve pounded that place with the nox and have pulled over 30 silvers out of there. On my first trip there with the deus I got two mercs. The other merc came from a site that I had been to two previous times with the deus. These silvers bring me to 27 for the year.
    20 points
  16. Been home a month already, and as you all know things don't stop happening just because you're away. Besides catching up from falling behind domestic tasks, it also takes a while to get back in the habit of reading and posting. But I need to write my experiences down before I forget even more of what happened. I'll break it into a few posts to hopefully minimize the yawns (yours and mine). In summary I spent 27 days (26 nights) away from home, leaving on the 31st of May. Here's the Outline of the trip (not including days spent merely driving): 0) 3 days in Colorado at my sister's home, with one day spent hunting an early 20th Century homestead permission of hers (unfortunately my nemesis -- regraded/backfilled property -- led to zero finds), and one morning with Denver's Eureka Treasure Hunting Club in a city park (that was already reported by Jeff McClendon and me here). 1) 4.5 days in NW Nevada, first 3 with Steve (the one person here I don't need to specify last name nor site username 😄) and Steve (Condor). For those familiar with that area we were near the Stone House and Sawtooth. After they left I spent one night alone and then was surprised when another DP member poster drove up in his VW Beetle(!) -- Andy (Abenson) for the last day or so. 2) 7 days in NE Nevada at Monte Berry's "Welcome to the Hunt Outing" (WTHO) #14 ghost town detecting get-together with 12-14 like-minded people. 3) 3.5 days at 10.5 kft (3.2 km) altitude in the Colorado Rockies at an 1860's ghost town site with my sister and her partner. I don't know which is more satisfying -- actual detecting or spending the evenings around the fire discussing our pasttime with such great people whose company I was fortunate enough to share. No less than four of my comrades has 45 or more years of detecting experience (and accompanying stories) and you can count on me to ask questions on that until the fire was low and we needed to get some shuteye for the next day's efforts. Several more had their silver anniversary (25 year) pins as well. A few stats for those who may be curious: 4325 miles (29.9 mpg and $658 of petrol), 13 nights sleeping in my vehicle and 7 nights in motels (other 6 at my sister's house), ~$1600 for the entire trip, including food and lodging (but not counting cost of batteries 😁). Only needed to put the Jeep Compass Trailhawk into 4WD twice and one of those was following Condor's pickup through a deep gully/wash. (Was he trying to lose me? ) I should say how many hours I spent actually swinging a detector but I haven't added it up. Mostly because of my age but also dependent upon the heat, 8 hours is a long day and sometimes (when I'm arriving or packing up to leave) it's less than half that. BTW, on the way home I stopped at a couple roadside rest areas (the old kind on 2 lane roads, not the modern Interstate kind) to finish of the detecting time fix for the trip. I'm really bad at remembering to take photos, but here are a couple. The first is in NW Nevada which was meant as a joke to a friend who predicted I would be abducted by aliens (you know, Skinwalker Ranch, Blind Flog Ranch,... although those are in NE Utah). Second one some of you will recognize because of the aspen trees, tree line,... from high in the Rockies. You may notice I try not to show enough detail that you'll figure out our secret locations. I'll stop for now and go into more detail on the detecting sites (and finds) in the next installment.
    20 points
  17. The top end is only part of the market, some people not willing to pay the top end prices but still want a pulse machine they can go use a for a prospecting trip once a year or for a few weekends away are a largely untapped market. At the moment they're most likely to buy a Gold Monster or something along those lines but they'd do better with a Garrett PI based upon an upgraded ATX design. I don't know why everyone thinks it has to be the best detector ever made or Garrett are wasting their time, why does it have to compete with the GPX 6000 or GPZ 7000 to justify being made? Yes, a lot of the people here demand the best and clearly can afford to pay for the best, but not everyone can, or wants to. What about other markets, how about Africa? What if Garrett can produce a good reliable easy to use PI in a strong housing with very little problems to be used as a tool and treated rough in Africa by the large number of Africans that want to give a shot at prospecting? Do you think every African who wants to look for gold has the means the pay for a high end Minelab? A lot of them lease their machines already and don't own them, many just buying VLF's and often fake VLF's. They earn a tiny amount of money, we've all seen the stories on it. If they can tap into markets like that it would be a success for them and for the Africans getting a PI that works over using the VLF. Maybe they have ambition to tap into other markets. By the sounds of it the ATX is a pretty good starting point, and it is sensitive to small gold, surely they can tweak it and get it even better and design new coils and housings for it to bring it up to be quite a good unit and if they can get the price right then who knows how it will go, I would think pretty good in the right markets. I'm sure when Garrett were planning this detector they weren't aiming for the Aussies rusted onto their Minelab's, they would be chasing different markets. It's a start towards competition, once it gets into the market and if it sells to their target market they'll continue development for the next version and gradually work their way up the ladder. If everyone just shoots down anyone that tries we are stuck with no competition and status quo putting up with very high priced machines with quality to match the prices they're asking 😛 If that's how you like it go join the Minelab cheer leading team. I'm happy to encourage any manufacturer to give it a shot in hope one can succeed and I wish Garrett the best with this project, I might even buy one myself.
    20 points
  18. Got out with Condor for a short hunt. High Sierras, moderately high mineralization, some hot rocks, but not too hot. This is a burn area, like burnt to nothing left but trees like giant black toothpicks. Almost everything at ground level is incinerated to dust. It was hot enough to melt glass into blobs. I'm going out of my way to describe what I am seeing and hearing for those interested in the detector. I was able to run Axiom full out, Fine Mode, max sensitivity, Slow Speed, and manual ground balance. My go to settings. EMI was quiet, though I did get maybe twice a day some noise, which canceled out. Not sure what that was about. I can hunt with no issues within about 50 feet of Condor and his GPZ 7000. Maybe less but in general I stay away from other people when I detect. I ran entire time with 11"x7" mono coil, my favorite. The ground was what I'd call lively, but not bad enough to drop out of fine mode, or lower the sensitivity. I just did basic ground balancing, because I like keeping things minimal when detecting, and like being on the edge, which means I do not mind investigating the oddball ground noise or hot rock. I got a few rocks but they were like right there, just nudge them aside. I also got a few soft hits on what turned out to be little pockets of incinerated ground, dig in and just a fine gray material. So shallow I could scrape them out with my boot, and the signal would disperse. I'm sure I could have eliminated all this dropping into another mode or dropping the sensitivity, or both, but my style of detecting kind of demands I do this sort of thing, as long as it is not so much and so often as to be oppressive. Chalk it up to me and my "ride the edge" detecting style, not the detector itself. I had no issues with charcoal of any sort, other than the little dust pockets mentioned earlier. I've hunted several burn areas now, and there is not much in the way of issues that Axiom can't deal with. In general it just makes for a bit livelier ground, most often exhibiting as small hot spots that disperse on digging. The area has been hunted to death, not quite dead really, but typical lots of digging iffy targets and broken square nails, a handful of "bullet stuff" (actual bullets, shell casings, and the worst, fragments of jacketed bullets). And a relic - woo hoo! Little brass belt buckle that has some details so I sanded it a bit to make visible for the photo. Have not weighed the gold yet, will add that later. Little pickers.
    19 points
  19. Seems like all the recent interest in coils has got Minelab interested in looking at being clever with some coil designs themselves. Nice to see Minelab acknowledge in writing the power of spiral windings too, something some of us have been saying for years is real, now there is no debate. Seems Bruce Candy himself agrees with what some of us have been saying over and over - they work just fine in mild and medium soil too. We already saw the horizontal/vertical spiral winding idea in an unpublished patent, but it's published now. This is for hotter ground. Idea being you get the advantage of a spiral (increased sensitivity) without the disadavantages (spurious signals in highly saturable soils) by turning the front/back ends of the coil vertical to decrease the flux density going into the soil in parts of the coil that aren't required for side to side motion. This one (US 20220221610 A1): There are a number of other winding configurations in the patent as well. I just noticed an International patent that hasn't been filed in the US yet too (WO2022126185A1) with some pretty crazy coil designs. From what I gather these are actually concentric coils. They seem to have up to 2 to 5 "groups" of RX and/or TX windings to null out what I guess is spurious saturation signals, conductive ground, and EMI. But then they seem to just concentrate mainly on saturation. But I'm just taking a break from work and eating, figured I'd look up patents while I sit here, so I don't have time to do more than just selective scrolling through this extensive document. I scrolled past some talk of such coils designed with 2 cables to the control box too. Here are some odd concentric "noise cancelling" coil cross sections from this patent: There are some apparant performance graphs too which I guess relate to depth, but they are unlabeled so I'm not sure what they mean until I have time to read through everything. So I'm not going to post them because I have no clue what they represent right now and I gotta head back to work.
    19 points
  20. You read it right the 1st time. That's exactly what I said and mean. Thank You Minelab. Been seeing quite a bit of finger pointing at Minelab lately and I feel some deserved. But at the same time, I do have to give credit where earned and due. So again, Thank You Minelab. I like - 1st to make a serious Pulse Induction gold detectors that could run smooth & go deep. You provided us gold hunters a variety (10+) of high end detectors the last 25 yrs. No other detector company in the world gave us the options. I, my customers & thousands of others have dug pounds of Gold with those detectors, you deserve some credit. Thank You. I like - 1st to make a serious 100% waterproof FBS detector for land and sea that has GPS mapping. I've recovered more gold rings in the short amount of time with the CTX-3030 than any other detector in the same time frame. GPS Tracking allows folks to know what part of the beach you've yet to hunt while on my vacation. Allows you to plot the gold ring finds so you can gather important data for future trips. Many beaches have certain gathering points the tourists prefer to hang. Thank You. I don't like - 1st to push the limits of what the average person will spend on a high end detector. How many of us would have dreamed spending $2000, $4000, $6000 $8000 or even $10K on a metal detector? Come on, my father is laughing at me in his grave. But Minelab did it and now other manufactures are starting to push the price boundaries. Hey, nobody twisted our arms to buy them. We made the choice. As this is my business "selling detector", Thank You, since I can make a few bucks. I like - 1st to make a high end DVT detector (with GPS) that goes deeper on most gold... than anything I have swung in my 50 yrs detecting. Yes it's the most expensive proven detector in the world, but boy it's not cheap. Better bring a big shovel. Thank You. I like - 1st to give us a sub $1000 DO IT ALL detector that is 100% waterproof and is killer on gold nuggets as well. Anyone know anything about the Equinox and if you use it to it's fullest potentials, this detector could have come out at $2500 and many folks would have purchased it. Probably a game changer for quite some time. Minelab did something very wise and priced this detector at a point that the masses would buy it. And we did. Thank You Minelab. I like - 1st to give us a higher end PI that's compact, light and performs (for most). I realize Covid caused some issues, so I was told. But lets quit blaming on Covid now and get some things cleaned up. I like - Minelab has offered us "the detectorist" more opportunities to be successful for so many styles of detecting, when compared to the other manufactures. Water Hunting, Beach Hunters, Coin Hunters, Gold Hunters, Meteorite Hunters, CW Relic Hunters and on. Heck, you practically have owned the majority of performance detectors. Thank you. I like - Minelab has pushed the limits and now the other manufactures are having to step up or step out. Tesoro Out, White's Out, XP up, Nokta Up, Garrett Up,. Fisher - the oldest and used to be proudest detector manufacture? Well you better offer something soon, or you too might be falling off. You at the end of the plank Fisher. You've made promises and not followed through. Life line is getting shorter. Please give us something high end to wow the masses. Now Minelab - Big brass and all the way down. Please don't get angry with me and if you do, you are not justified. I've been using your detectors for 25 yrs and promoting your brand. I've purchased from you (in 1 year) over $1,000,000 of your products to sell to customers. I've shared more success pics and stories to you and for you of my customers Success than most dealers. I've spent more time and money chasing gold nuggets, meteorites, diamond rings, Roman coins and CW relic hunting than most dealers and usually using/promoting your detectors. All along and at all those Dealer Conferences (most dealers won't spend the money to go to), I've shared with you, the upper brass and Engineering my thoughts and ideas. From day #1, I told you I was a Multi Line Dealer who enjoys many detectors and I prefer the best tool for the task. I don't care who makes it, what country its from. Will it provide me more SUCCESS, is what I'm after. Minelab, You've been able to eat dinner and get dessert every night for way to long. You have done what other detector manufactures dream of for the last 25 yrs. You have earned all the accolades, nothing was given to you, you earned it. You have been the envy for quite some time. Well deserved. Because of you Minelab, we (Gold Nugget Prospectors, Beach Hunters and CW Relic Diggers) are about to get another option of a high end Pulse Induction detector that will give you serious competition. You are probably thinking, well about time. I realize, No..it's not going to put you out of business. No, it's not going to hurt your entry level and beginner hobby end sales. Heck it may not even faze you. But on your upper end units, it will put a kink in those panties for a bit, I'm pretty sure. I know you Minelab and I know your Engineers are some of the best. So what you going to do? What you going to come up with next? How you going to counter? Competition is great, price points are becoming a little better and in the favor of the consumer now, so it's a win win for most detectorists. Thank You Minelab for the past and the future, of what you'll be offering us. I look forward to it. Gerry's Detectors of Boise, Idaho. Gerry McMullen
    18 points
  21. Took me over 4 years after I first suggested we needed such a coil, but finally got my 5x10 Coiltek for Equinox today. Super well made, looks like Minelab factory made actually, great job Coiltek! After looking into a couple of the latest alternatives to Equinox released in the last year, I came to the decision that Equinox is still the best thing going for me personally. And with that decision made, there seemed no reason to not finally get this coil. I'm sorry Noxy, yes, I strayed, but now I'm back, and home for good. Many thanks to Rob Allison for a super deal, and incredibly quick service!!
    18 points
  22. It took two days to shoot these (more to come), I hope you enjoy them! Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc. Garrett Axiom Quick Start From a full reset / factory default, my steps are: Go to full sensitivity. If machine gets unusually unstable for any reason, lower this setting, but under most circumstances I run full sensitivity, and maintain control with slow coil movements. Volume so that loudest target is not too loud. Wave over pick and set. Volume is actually a volume limit, does not lower all volume, just high end cutoff. If you want a normal full range volume, use headphones with a volume control. In that case set detector to full volume, and adjust headphones to suit. Set threshold to suit, for me a bare tone, others may prefer quiet. Go into menu and change speed from default Medium to Slow (it’s smoother/quieter) Do a ground grab ground balance. Optional. Once all other settings adjusted, do an EMI cancel if it seems necessary. Start detecting, stay low, go slow. Dig all signals, but in heavy nails, low chance of really large gold, focus on sweet high tones. Once the Axiom is set, power off, power back on, all settings are retained. If you ever feel like things are a tuning up, hold the power button in while powered up, until detector double blips, and screen says 49 49. Power off, back on, and you are at factory defaults, ready to tune from start. Garrett Axiom Volume, Threshold, & Sensitivity Garrett Axiom Tone & Audio Options Garrett Axiom Z-Lynk Wireless Operation Garrett Axiom Stem Length & Cuff Position Garrett Axiom Frequency Scan Garrett Axiom Ground Balance & Hot Rocks Garrett Axiom Speed Adjustments (Slow, Medium, Fast) Garrett Axiom Detector Modes (Fine, Normal, Large, Salt) Garrett Axiom Using Iron Check
    18 points
  23. If people want to understand me, understand this. I’m a successful business person, very hard driving, with the knowledge about how to get what I want in life. I wanted better metal detectors - for me! So I got involved with the companies, and over time, have had some genuine influence in getting machines made - that I wanted for me! I have a vision of 21st century detectors, high tech, light, powerful, affordable. I’ve pushed that vision when I can. Equinox finally hit 90% of what I’ve wanted in VLF, it’s just tweaks and twiddles from here on out. The D2 and Legend are refinements, nothing more, and I expect that’s where we will be for the next decade. For PI the 7000 fit my vision, but physically it’s bloated. I was thinking something the size of the CTX 3030, and it got a lot bigger. 6000 reined it in, much happier with it, but some unfortunate bugs appeared in the execution. But still, it’s way closer to what I’ve wanted, much closer than the 7000. I’m talking functional packaging more than performance really, though obviously performance matters. The Axiom is kind of an Equinox of the PI world. I’m very pleased with it on many levels. For me, an Equinox and an Axiom, or a Deus 2 and an Axiom, would be a killer combo for the average person wanting two machines that can do pretty much anything you’d ever want to do. Deus 2 probably gets the nod for ergonomics and waterproof integrity, Equinox for coils and small gold nuggets. So it took 50 years, but I pushed and nudged, and got what I wanted, for me. Who gets to do stuff like this? I’m a very fortunate person indeed. For where I am in my life at age 64, it’s all just enough in the nick of time. I am thinking a Deus 2/Equinox (can't decide) and an Axiom could be my magic combo, two detectors that may not be the best at everything, but together make a dynamite, modern, up to date package, and represent best what I’ve tried so hard for so long to get. For me, in my hands, to use. So yes, it’s all been very selfish in the end, just me trying hard to get what I want, and largely succeeding. 50 years of metal detecting, I can shuffle off now a happy man, and say I did my part. The rest is just tweaks and twiddles, fine tuning, but for sheer power and capability, we are near apex detecting in my opinion. Enjoy it now, while the targets last. Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc.
    18 points
  24. I'll keep an eye on this thread. Just a reminder - this is the Garrett Forum. You have nothing good to say about Garrett, take it to one of the other forums. This is for people who are interested in the new detector, and who are not interested in hearing the negative commentary. Count me in that group. I've had it with detector snobs and negative nellies, and will take great pleasure in nuking any that show up here. Please stay on topic, and let's not toss rocks at the other brands while doing this either. What do you hope to see in this detector, what is it you do see when it shows up, what is it you end up not seeing, or hope can be improved? You know, discuss this detector, and nothing else. Is that something that is still possible in this age of endless comparison videos, and arguments over this versus that? I think so, and I hope like minded people will pitch in and keep this all above board and friendly, like the good old days of the forums that I remember with fondness. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc.
    18 points
  25. ...it wasn't. After 3 hours in the wet sand I had only found a few coins but I wanted to hit one last spot before calling it a day. I was pretty sure that it was going to be a long, disappointing drive home but soon after reaching the area I wanted to check I got a nice, loud signal on the Excal. I switched to "disc." and got a smooth full tone and had the target in my scoop on the first try. A quick rinse in the surf revealed a nice silver colored band in the bottom of my basket. I could tell that it was a fresh drop silver ring and when I picked it up for a closer look I was underwhelmed by the design and thought, "Oh well, another one for the melt pile." I was pretty shocked when I looked inside the ring and saw "Gucci" "Made in Italy" and "Ag 925" stamped inside. A few weeks ago I found what I thought was a nice gold chain (see picture) only to find that it was plated. Now I found what seemed to be a garden variety silver ring that is pricey "designer" jewelry. You just never know! https://www.gucci.com/us/en/pr/jewelry-watches/silver-jewelry/silver-rings/guccighost-ring-in-silver-p-477339J84000701
    17 points
  26. Success! I recovered both of S. Young's detectors for him. Arrangements are being made to get the GPX4500 returned to him and I have sold the Gold Monster for him and the cash is being sent his way. Glad I was able to help. Doc
    17 points
  27. Northeast covers it well. Here is why I personally may let my 6000 go and keep the Axiom: Easily ground balance out hot rocks the 6000 (and 7000) cannot gb out with any settings they have. Easily balances to salt ground, even salt water, that 6000 (and 7000) cannot balance to. More stable than 6000 in EMI environments, or whatever it is that is going on with speaker or programming that causes 6000 instability. Carbon fiber rod that is one of the best ever seen on any metal detector. On arm comfort, especially with 11" mono coil, that is truly top notch. Great VCO audio, very expressive, great for people like me that hunt by ear and cherry pick targets based on tone and "roundness". Optional ATX style audio, while not for most people, will help some people that may have issues with VCO audio. Some people do not like VCO. Really great external speaker volume. The USB charging in my experience has been fabulous. Detector runs two solid days on a charge. With a single high capacity USB power brick I can run for over a week! While there is an emergency backup external battery, it would take real bad planning to ever need that battery. It can however act as a balance counterweight for larger coils when clipped under arm. An very positive action iron check function for shallow trash and some hot rocks (I recommend only in low to moderate iron mineralized ground). A threshold control. Four main timing modes for various ground, hot rock, and salt situations. Three ground tracking settings, plus you can Turn Tracking Off! Three speed/reactivity settings. Simultaneous wireless integration with optional wireless pinpointer. Six non-chipped coils to start with, monos in particular very light, very affordable, and more sure to follow very soon. No impediments thrown in way of third party coil designers. So I'm not saying an Axiom will detect gold better than a 7000 or possibly a 6000. What I am saying is it will Not Detect ground, hot rocks, salt water, and EMI that may be an issue in some places for those models, while still finding gold. This may open up some areas where those machine struggle due to the prevalence of non-gold signals. In this regard, it may make a good second PI for some 6000 or 7000 users. People can and will debate the Axiom as a nugget detector. I think the more interesting question for many will be how it stacks up versus the GPX 5000 as a relic and beach hunter? It’s actually no contest in this regard versus 6000 and 7000. But the 5000 is a very highly regarded relic and beach detector. The Axiom has obvious ergonomic advantages, and the feature set lends very well to non-nugget type PI hunting.
    17 points
  28. I'll tell more details later. My phone is on fire... Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc.
    17 points
  29. I'm pretty pissed off I did not get an Axiom back in 2015 when I tried everything possible to convince Garrett that a lightweight, dry land only, follow-up to the ATX was a total no-brainer. I started beating that drum in 2013 when I was testing the ATX, and fully expected something within two years, if not less. Was kind of lead to think that might be so. Then nothing, nothing, and nothing. All the while I whined and whined and whined, to no avail. I stamped my feet, I held my breath until I turned blue, all those things that worked when I was two. Still nothing. So that big sound you are hearing now? That's the sound of silence from me finally not whining 24/7 over not getting a good, lightweight follow-up for the ATX! But yeah, some people will get an Axiom and be unhappy. Sure as day follows night, it's just the nature of people imagining things are more than they are, then being let down when reality rears its ugly head. It’s a metal detector, not a magic wand, and only as good as the person using it.
    16 points
  30. I was recently shared some pics of GPZ-7000 gold finds from the lower 48. My customer pulled half a pound of Au last year and here is some of it. Just goes to show getting off the beaten path might find a new patch. Love the rounded slug of a whopper. I'm trying to generate GPZ-7000 buzz so I can sell the used ones I recently took in trade. The prices these used units are going for is just amazing. If I keep sharing GPZ-7000 finds, maybe the price will go up long enough for me to sell them and I can buy a few more Axioms for my customers.🤣 Hey, I've said it before. If you are happy and successful with your detector, then keep being happy. Thanks for allowing me to share some Success Bill.
    16 points
  31. I got the chance to detect a small 1800s settlement that survived until the early 1900s along the Southern mountains of Colorado. This area has seen various activities over the years from native americans, Spanish explorers, fur trappers, outlaws, miners, farmers, ranchers, and even some Civil War activity, so you never know what will be found. This particular site saw the most activity from the 1880s to about the 1920s. The day started with meeting a 97 year old gentleman who had grown up at the settlement and he pointed out where all the buildings were which are all gone now except for the original barn that has been restored. He was more than happy to share many stories of the history of the property and the people who lived there, as well as other activities that had happened on site. He mentioned that most of the building had either burned down fallen apart over the years except for the barn and his family's house which survived over 100 years and was purchased and moved to a nearby town in the 1990s. I could have listened to him talk all day but we had some detecting to do. We split up and started detecting to see what we could find. I fired up the Deus II in Relic mode and started working my way from the barn, which is now used as a community center, towards the area where the old post office once stood. Of course the area was carpeted with nails and other iron trash just below the surface. It seems I had only moved a few feet when I got a really nice sounding signal. I gently pried up an inch or two of the dried earth and discovered my first coin of the day... a nice sun-baked zinc penney! I continued on a short way and got an identical signal poking through the iron noise. Of course it's another zincoln, I thought, but as I opened another shallow hole the penney inside looked strange yet familiar at the same time. I had seen this same kind of coin not too long ago at another old site. To my delight it turned out to be an 1895 Indian Head Penney. This is only the second IHP I have found metal detecting and pretty exciting for me. We continued the hunt until the heat became unbearable in the afternoon. I believe the only other coin found was a Wheat Penney, but many interesting artifacts were found and one detectorist found a 10K gold ring. We left some of the artifacts with the property owner and headed home feeling enriched by the experience. I gave the zinc penney to my young grandson and told him it was a treasure coin. He was pretty excited by that, but by the time he gets to detecting age, those may be all dissoved into the earth and gone, so maybe it is a treasure coin. 😏
    16 points
  32. All gold pictured in video found by yours truly with the Axiom. I like it Steve_Herschbach_Axiom_Testimonial_Compressed.mp4 Garrett Axiom Quick Facts, Owner's Manual, Etc.
    16 points
  33. I received my 10x5 on Thursday, and took it out yesterday to a bedrock crevice area I have worked hard, and I was shocked at all of the gold I picked up. This is all ground I know I have thoroughly swung the detector over before with the 11” mono, and the signals were everywhere. Besides the gold I was surprised at how quiet the detector now was, and I could even detect up the bedrock walls with out the detector freaking out. What a great experience.
    16 points
  34. I got out this morning to look for a ring and while I was unsuccessful in finding it I did get this nice 18k consolation prize.
    16 points
  35. I’m fine with eBay, buyer and seller protections, wider audience, calculated shipping options, etc. I’m selling the 6000 because I have an Axiom, and don’t need the 6000 anymore because of that. And I will say categorically that I do not have a GPZ replacement prototype, and would turn it down if offered. Testing was fun at one point, now it’s just work, and I’d rather go detecting. Axiom was my last hurrah in that regard, and even then only because I’d lobbied Garrett for so long on this, that I could not resist. So hit Minelab up Ron, they need a new tester in the U.S.
    16 points
  36. Most years, my family heads to Ocean City, NJ for a week in the summer. Due to father/husband duties, i usually get 2 or 3 mornings from about 5 to 7 am to try to morph from a dirt hunter to a beach hunter. I have had great success at finding modern coins and lead fishing weights, and the occasional junk jewelry item, but never had any luck in getting real gold. I have never gone into the water much, as most of my detectors haven't been waterproof. I took the equinox this year, and was determined to hunt in the shallows in front of the break line. First hurdle appeared before i even went out. I did a reset so that I could sync the wireless phones to it. I never use them for dirt, but i didnt want to damage my good headphones.....sigh...the button on the Equinox to pair them doesnt work. I almost always have had the little wireless box paired to it with my good headphones for dirt hunting. The button has always given me trouble from date of purchase, but usually 2 or 3 times, and it would work. I tried for an hour. no dice. So i hooked up the wireless phones with the 1/8th inch cable. I guess i will contact Minelab and see if they can repair the button now that I am home. Second hurdle...the screws for the handle for my scoop went missing, so it would just be harder to use...oh well. I only got out twice this trip. First time out, it was only 3 hours to high tide. I went as close to the breaks as i could, and it is a real challenge to me to swing the coil in that swirling water. I stuck to good signals only. I hunted for about 2.5 hours, and managed a stainless anxiety ring, and two sterling earrings, so not too bad. Second trip, I took my son along to help handle the scoop, and we got out right at low tide at 6am. Targets were extremely sparse, and the first was a junk mood ring. The second was really jumpy, but kept going high, and pulled the little portion of silver links..i think it is part of an earring. the third was the little silver heart earring. I was thinking we needed to push a little further out into the rougher water, so we really had to fight the waves a bit. It was only about 50 feet at this depth, and what a sweet signal. I found out that i really stink using a scoop right there. Took me at least 10 tries to get it in the scoop. I told Eli to just carry it up to the wet sand slope and we would figure out what it was up there. Really nice 22k men's wedding band. It's been a week now and i still smile. I now feel way better about all you folks who dig gold on the beach all the time, and am not quite so jealous 🙂 We searched for just a couple more minutes, but nothing else showed up, so we ended on a pretty high note. If anyone recognizes the makers mark that would be awesome, but I will start looking through marks soon. Happy hunting, All
    16 points
  37. My style of hunting is always enhanced when wave energy is right. Last night there was a reasonable amount of energy that washed coins ($6) and rings (5) up and also washed some of the sand from the blanket line down. This is what happens when you get a 'cut' on the beach. I've had much better hunts and I'm still on a gold drought, but the chain and silver ring are pretty nice. There is an unusual black ring with gold lettering that I can't recognize. Does anyone have any ideas?
    16 points
  38. I just needed to get out of the house yesterday, so I headed to a local beach about an hour before high tide. My intention was to just hit the towel line down. Well, when I got there, there was an active 4–6-foot cut about one hundred yards long. So, in it I went. About halfway through it I was getting pounded by the surges but hit basically a pocket of green coins and a few silver rings and more. I detected for about 2 1/2 hours before the cut had turned back into a slope and the coin finds dried up. I ended up with 203 coins, three of them were silver dimes and one was a wheatie. Only one of the coins is what I would call "spendable" and with some tumble time, some of the other might be. LOL I was using the Equinox 800. I was in Beach 1, with the 15 inch coil, sensitivity at 23 and constantly in and out of the surf as it was surging. Amongst the coin digs I got a hit that was a grunt to foil on tones. The number was -1 to 1. I dug it and came out with a tiny 7 1/4 inch bracelet that was hallmarked 14k (and tested 14K) and weighed .8 gram. It was intact but had a broken link at the clasp. That is by far the tiniest chain I have dug. This morning I wanted to confirm the number so I air tested it. Nothing, Nada, no tone what so ever. Now to be perfectly fair, there is tad bit of EMI so that might have been the reason that it did not make a peep. The value of the gold is not much but the value in detecting knowledge is priceless. I do wonder now just how many "tiny" pieces of gold I have been over and just walked on by???
    16 points
  39. Welcome to the forum Ben. I'm a fellow programmer and can probably show the basics of where the road blocks exist in the current technology. I am not a detector expert but there are a few on this forum, hopefully they will chime in. Please don't take offense at my comments. They are directed to all readers and aren't meant to denigrate the programming work you are doing today or the current state of "AI'. First off a pet peeve- AI since 2015? Nothing like changing the definition to achieve the goal. You certainly mean neural network Weak AI? Alan Turing is rolling over in his grave. Real Artificial Intelligence doesn't exist - it's only hypothetical at this point. Real Artificial Intelligence wouldn't require humans feeding training data to a program. What the public is led to believe is that intelligent Strong AI exists then they are offered Weak AI as proof of concept. We were employing Weak AI back in the late 1970's at TI - nothing new but the name. To answer your question the "AI" you are referring to is used in several metal detectors today. You can start with automatic ground balance. Signal acquisition and processing is where most of the development is centered today. GiGo applies to metal detectors just like every other real world system and there is a huge amount of garbage in these signals. As already mentioned humans perform this sorting function with the currently available detecting technology based on individual experience. Also noted is that even the best detectorists either dig every target or admit to missing gold if they don't dig every target. In other words human sorting of the data received by the detector is still very poorly developed even among the best operators. If there were true artificial intelligence the best we could expect is the same level of data sorting. I have doubts about the usefulness of an "AI" system that has no more capability than the existing human operators. Metal detecting isn't a button pushing job at a factory. With the current BFO, VLF and Pulse detecting systems it is not possible to directly correlate signals received with the substance being detected. Not enough of the right kind of data. The use of slot filters can eliminate unwanted signals but those will also miss many of the target metal signals as well. As you can see from previous comments some believe a processor enabled slot filter amounts to AI. Thus my previous comments. A different physical data collection device is needed to distinguish individual metallic signals. At present no such system is available to the detecting public but you can bet some smart folks are working very hard on that goal. Of course once a system is designed that can discriminate among metal types there will be no need for AI to parse those signals for the operator. I understand where you are coming from. My first thought when I picked up a BFO back in 1973 was that these machines need more intelligent processing to make sense of the signals created. I too misunderstood what was meant by a "metal detector". A lot of work has been done already towards the goal of cleaning up the signals from the existing systems. The best we can do now as programmers now is sit back and let the engineers discover a working physical system to get the data that will allow true metallic discrimination.
    16 points
  40. one was a 1937 dime Today on the way to the bank, I had to make a deposit because my pin pointer broke, so I need a new one so I stopped to look for Gold and instead found two silvers, the merc suprized me because i was not looking for silver , I had dug 17 dimes and one was silver and also found a nice sterling ring with what looks like a black onyx stone
    16 points
  41. Sorry you have had bad luck with the 6000 Simon, but they are not all like that. Plenty of people like me have had almost zero issues with them, and are quite pleased with the performance. I'm sure people will find something to fault in the Axiom also - many already have! I'm with JP in that I prefer to focus on what machines can do, and getting the best I can out of them. If I don't like a machine, I get rid of it, and move on. That does not mean others might not love the machine I've decided is not for me. It just means it's not for me.
    16 points
  42. Here is a short video showing the Axiom manual ground balance (ground grab) and a few methods for dealing with hot rocks.
    16 points
  43. I don't see how that answers your question. I thought you wanted to know if the Axiom has some kind of "Ultra Hype 30000 Technology" that allowed to to find gold that all other detectors miss. And you wondered why, if it had such a thing, it had not been mentioned. I had no real answer for that, because I am pretty sure if the Axiom had Ultra Hype Technology, they would be hyping the heck out of that. Will it find gold in patches other machines have hunted? Of course. I could put on a big dog and pony show about how all the gold I have found came from places pounded for countless hours by GPX 6000 and GPZ 7000 detectors. How my 2.63 gram nugget came from a spot I KNOW I passed over with my GPZ 7000 and GPX 6000 coils. And more. But that has been and continues to be the biggest piece of detecting malarky sold to people. " I found a coin in a hunted out park." Please, really? It proves absolutely nothing, except that the person involved found another coin. I've been hunting the same patches for years, and find gold almost 100% of the time when I am hunting them. I can go to one tomorrow with a 1990 Gold Bug with a 3.5" round concentric coil and odds are I will find gold. Does that mean everyone should go get a 1990 Gold Bug? That it has last century super tech gone overlooked all these years? No, I can grab any metal detector made to hunt gold in the last 20 (30, 40?) years, and go out and find gold with it. In well hunted locations. Finding gold in previously hunted areas means a couple things. First, it may mean better tech. But more often, it just means the operator knows their stuff. Conversely, people who are not good at the nugget hunting game can use “the latest tech”, and put in as many hours as they want, and find nothing. That's actually a majority of people. In a nutshell people go too fast, have coils off the ground, and can't hear tiny signals. People that go slow, coil to the ground, and have an ear for whispers, find the gold. So pictures of Axiom or anything else finding gold does mean they are capable of finding gold. But finding gold in "hunted out" locations? Hunted out by who? Unless I have hunted it, and no more gold can be found - it's not hunted out!!
    16 points
  44. As promised in a separate post, I conducted a test to determine the lowest salt sensitivity setting possible that allowed for stable operation and greatest depth detection. What prompted this test was the conflict in the hard copy user manual compared to the on line version. The hard copy stated that the higher the salt sensitivity setting, the more that targets with a TID of around 30 would be attenuated. The online version stated that the lower setting would attenuate those same targets registering a TID of around 30. I questioned the hard copy version saying that if the higher salt setting was true, then why not just use a salt setting of 1 and be done with it. To clarify this whole thing I tested two separate targets on a wet salt sand beach where the waves would come in and completely cover the test area. I chose that area to ensure that the salt mineralization would create some level of chattered response. The two targets used for the test were a small and very thin 10k ring whose TID registered as a 45. The second target was a thin gold chain with a TID of 33. I buried them both at a constant depth of 4 inches. I didn't want to go any deeper so as to avoid depth limitations impacting the results as a separate variable throughout the test. With a sensitivity setting of 95, I did the normal frequency scan with the reactivity set at 1. Ground balance was a constant 86. I then started with a salt sensitivity setting of 9, scanned both targets separately and then incrementally lowered that setting until I reached a salt sensitivity of 1. As expected, the higher the setting, the more chatter was present but the detectable signal was stronger. As I lowered the setting the more stable the Deus II operated but the signal strength was reduced incrementally until it was gone. I continued to raise and lower the setting until I found what I considered the "sweet spot"---that setting where the chatter was minimized but the target signal was a definite "digable" one. On New Smyrna Beach that day, under those test conditions, the "sweet spot" was a salt setting of 5 for the gold chain and 2 for the gold ring. To caveat these findings, keep in mind that my results at New Smyrna Beach that day would most likely be different than the same test run at Virginia Beach for example. Every beach is somewhat different so my "sweet spot" settings are not the universal gospel for every salt water environment according to Colonel Dan. Your results on your beach may very well differ....and probably will. Bottom Line: adjust your salt sensitivity to best suit the conditions you face that day on your beach.
    16 points
  45. Warrens last video had some comments made about not being able to hear the detector audio. They must have read the comments, because this video makes specific note of doing just that. Personally, I think this makes for a much better video, as a number one question people have is about how a detector sounds on the ground, and on the target. This video does show that about the Axiom, for those that are interested. I’ll admit I don’t watch many videos, but I do want to note I very much appreciate those that create them. I see a lot of armchair critics, and my response is “have you ever shot video?” It’s hard work that detracts from the detecting at hand, and as far as I am concerned, is a waste of my time in general, which is why you don’t see me doing many videos. The main thing is they are free. Some comments people make act like they bought something, and got ripped off, when instead they are watching a free video. Just had to mention that, and to reiterate I appreciate anyone who takes the time to make and post videos for others. If you’ve never made them and posted them yourself, you have no idea what a pain it is to make a video more than a couple minutes long.
    15 points
  46. Me and a claim partner were at our claim today. I got 3 small pieces and Jamie got his first big nugget. I am the last one of the four of us, still waiting to hit on one. It is just a matter of time and alot of digging.
    15 points
  47. Happy and excited DP forum followers. Yes my Field Staff and I are just as excited about another Pulse Induction detector option and or addition to our tool supply. 1st off, I need to apologize for not keeping up with everyone's questions on this high powered and advanced tuning PI ( the AXIOM ) by Garrett. Guess what, I'll be honest and can't physically keep up. My email, text, phone are just blowing up with mostly questions about what it can/can't do and should I sell this/that to get it. Come on, I'm not here to tell you what to do and I can't (NDA) answer some of the questions I've been presented. Realize my position as a Multi Line Dealer and the greasy tight rope with a noose...I'm trying to walk. Our fine friend Steve H., is not in my shoes and has zero skin to any manufacture as he lives the retired life. But Steve's blood and desire for the best ultimate gold detector runs through my veins as well, we are like minded guys. A couple of my team and I are off to the quiet zone free of TV, phone, email all in the interest of education/promotion of another detector options. Notice I keep saying option, for a simple fact, that's exactly what the Axiom is giving us. It's another tool for us to use and the features/capabilities it has (we are still learning) will be used again on this trip and we'll be making adjustments, coil size runs and hopefully be able to find some gold/take pics and or video. I'll post on here telling you to sell this and get that. I don't know you well enough, don't know the areas you detect, don't know your skill levels and or know how serious you take gold nugget prospecting compared to your other hobbies. Heck I don't know your financial position of owning a $4000 detector. But if you are on DP, I'm most certain many of you already have so that's why I'm here, just like you. So far our initial impression on the Axiom from Garrett is, "You have a WINNER". What does that mean to the average Joe/Jane and or those not sure yet which way they lean? For the gold hunting we have experienced in 4 locations of Nevada and 2 additional states, it's the best PI Garrett has come out with yet. Is it better than Minelab? AUT...Aut...aut, you know better than that. Read above "greasy tire rope walk with a noose on the end". I'll say this. The Axiom can find a variety of gold nuggets the $3400 SDC-2300 can not. It can do things performance wise and ergonomically that a $4000 GPX-5000 can not. It can find gold and ignore rocks/minerals a $6000 GPX-6000 can not. It can even do some things and find gold in situations a $8500 GPZ-7000 can not. Now to be fair (life is not fair), those machines can do things the Axiom can not. Heck, the new improved 24K can find gold none of the above mention can find. That's a fact. There is a reason (you know it) many people (not all) walked away from their GPZ-7000's and purchased a GPX-6000. Most folks are happy with their move of the GPX-6000, but not all. Where we have been using it, the Axiom easily takes care of the issues some 6000 owners have had. But since I do not hunt in everyone's location and I have only used a few Axiom units, there could be a location of same issue? Is the Axiom the #1 all to go PI detector on the market? Heck no and I'll never say there is. The all new Garrett Axiom with Untra Pulse Technology is another option for you. It has features and design I'm very impressed with and it looks to be that so are a few other well known Prospectors. If you are happy with your current model detector and the success/enjoyment you get from it, then I am happy for you. Remember, I promote the hobby of metal detecting. If you want to try something new or need to add another tool to up your game, I'm here for you as well. In the United States, metal detecting in my mind and I tell all when selling a detector, is a "hobby". Do some folks take it to an extreme? Most certainly and those are a select few very rare. They hunt gold, find gold and have to sell their gold to continue, the hunt to survive. I hope most of you are not that person. Another question that is the same from many people, so it must be important to a big group. Will this detector be good for Relic Hunting (primarily Civil War Relics). I've yet to actually take an Axiom and try it. But I have done very well (better than many VLF's) with PI type detectors and especially in highly mineralized Back East soils. The Axiom and it's soil tuning capabilities, combined with it's ergonomic design, the Iron Identification and option of 6 coils looks promising. I went out on a limb and posted on here DP over a year ago that most nugget hunters who owned a 7 would step to the 6. I'll do the same thing with the Axiom and tell you right now from what little bit of time I've used the Axiom, it's design, features and capabilities will soon make it a very popular CW Relic detector and you'll soon be seeing them. If you are interested in getting an Axiom from Gerry's Detectors, please get on my list soon as we've been told they will be short supply at 1st. Remember, as a VETEREN and long time DP contributor, I'll be happy to offer the new Garrett Military Discount to those who earned it. Pics of a small picker gold found with Axiom. The hunt goes on, with Axiom in hand and I'll be back sometime next week. Again, Please be patient and thanks for understanding the situation.
    15 points
  48. I was so excited to be going to the beach camping for 6 days, couldn't wait to get out there! It's a nice RV park right on the coast, with condos on one side and a small hotel on the other. Not a ritzy one. There is also a public access parking lot next to the hotel. That view is from the top of my RV. Every morning I got up at 5 to get out to the beach at 6. There's probably about 40 miles of beach here, I only covered about 2. On the first day I used the Equinox, didn't get much at all. It broke out raining so I had to quit. For the rest of the week I used the Deus 2 with a modified Beach Sensitive program, and did a bit better. I'll make a long story short because every day was the same, go out, get rained on, come back. 🤣 I got out a couple evenings too, because the thunderstorms cleared the beach. By 10:00 it was packed. Here's the total haul: $7.52 in modern coins, some jewelry, most of it junk except for this nice tungsten band with koa wood and abalone inlay. The band under it on the ring stand is stainless with pink CZs. I did get a very tiny silver chain with the religious medal and the wing, and one earring is probably silver. The stud is a CZ. The really small ring is marked 9.15 and 22, two medallions, one chrome and the other gold plated. The toe ring is silver plated zinc or copper and the bottom bit is copper with CZ's. The trash was horrendous but I never dug a single tent stake. Both detectors identified them correctly. Most of it was foil and pull tabs and sighted bottle caps. My most incredible find came on the last morning at low tide, it was about a foot down: A 1944 wheat penny in the best condition I have ever seen! 😀 It's like a kid stole it from the parent's proof collection and lost it, or it was a lucky fishing penny. 😀 Got a couple Matchbox cars, one from 2007 and the other 1993. All in all it was pretty disappointing, but I blame that on economics and bad weather. 🙂 I did meet a few detectorists out there, one guy that was just gridding the entrances and then started following me around for the first two mornings, but he didn't want to talk 😀 Another guy was out training his son with a White's Coinmaster, he found absolutely nothing but pull tabs and bottle caps, so he asked me what to upgrade to so he could get near the surf. I told him to get an Equinox or a Legend. The third one was funny, a guy I met on the beach a year ago swinging a Sovereign, this time he had an Equinox 800 and a 15" coil. He only had a hand scoop so I helped him dig a great signal that turned out to be a vaping device 🙄 One of my friends was watching us on the live beach camera and got this screen shot: I don't think he got much either.
    15 points
  49. Well I have pretty much tried to keep out of this detector saga and how it needs to stack up. But this evening, I'll bite and join in on some banter. Most of you that don't know me well, think I only sell and use Minelabs. The reality of my 45+ yrs of detecting were not with Minelabs as there was no such thing, a Minelab. 1st 20+ yrs was White's, Fisher, Compass, Garrett, Tesoro and I changed to different models as the task at hand...or the desired hunt changed. The last 25 yrs I've been pretty on top of the Minelab gold detectors (all of them) and see for myself what I prefer. I also enjoy the thrill of something new to play with and see for myself, if it can compete with my current best tool for the task. Now this is for me personally and how I hunt. But as a dealer, a true Multi line dealer who enjoys a vast majority of metal detecting styles (old coin hunting, water detecting, Civil War Relics, small gold and specimen detecting and of course looking for larger and deeper gold), I realize there is not 1 best detector for all tasks. That's exactly why some of today's detector manufactures have $250 unit and go up over $2500 and or more. Each price point hits a certain market and to have options for the end user (consumer) is vital and efficient. Look at the truck manufactures, say Ford and you'll see exactly what I'm referring to. Now realistically I'm most certain this new detector is not going to be a Minelab Killer. I'm not expecting it, but from some of your folks comments, you are pretty brash. So be it, no sweat off my back. But come on folks. Why is it such a dire that this new detector even be close to a high end Minelab? What if it's a really nice compact and light weight PI unit that has better capabilities than their old ATX? What if it's comparable to Minelab PI's of yesteryear but at a better price point? I for one owned an ATX for certain reasons and still used my GPX-4500/5000 for the serious prospecting. But Minelab didn't give us waterproof coils and compact at the time. Garrett did these and so did a few others and eventually Minelab stepped up their game with the WP coils. XP came out with the original Deus and that was a fine detector, one of the lightest I've ever used. Extremely compact, fast and wireless. Minelab had to make a move and eventually we get the Equinox from them. So I give credit to Garrett for not giving up on the high end gold detectors. Sure Minelab most certainly owns the greater part of the gold detector sales, but we pay outrageous prices to play with these detectors. Here's the bottom line and the truth be told. Minelab has the most powerful and deepest performing detector on the market, the GPZ-7000. That's a fact. But then why..........did so many of us get the GPX-6000 after we owned a GPZ-7000? Because the truth is...those few big gold nuggets are so rare to find and the depth different when comparing a GPZ-7000 to a GPX-6000 on a big nugget is not that impressively different. So you get nugget A at 34" with an $8500 GPZ-7000 and I get the same nugget at 30" with a $6000 GPX-6000. Plus I get the benefit of a lighter and easier detector (almost to easy). So again, hats off to an AMERICAN company that wants to come out with a high end gold detector. Who knows, it might be and probably is better than the ATX and it could just as well be better than the GPX of old. But I know this.... I doubt it will be $6000 or $8500. If it's 85 to 90% of the hottest selling high end Minelab = GPX-6000, and it's a couple thousand dollars less, then to me that's a winner. My customers will have an option now in a new price range and knowing it's American made means something to some folks. Like I said from the beginning. What I use one day may not be what I use the next on a different hunt and what I use and it's price point might be totally different than what my customer is requesting. I always ask my customer. What is your investment range for this new adventure? If this new Garrett is in the $2500 to $4000 price point, then my customer has another option. Now that Garrett is offering the 10% Military Discount, whatever the MAP price is, will be 10% less for those customers. As a long standing Garrett Dealer and one who has owned and used many of their detectors, this VETERAN is excited to see what they bring to the table. After all, the Garrett AT series detectors sold pretty dang well for many yrs, but it does not mean they were the best. Their price points and simplicity is what kept them selling. Now those are not high end gold detectors, but that guy on the front cover of the AT Gold Manual, he sure is a pretty hard nose nugget hunter. We'll know real soon (less than 12 hrs) more about it and I think some of you will be impressed.
    15 points
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