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  1. Welcome to the forum.  Freshwater gold chain hunting is not an easy sport.  In my environment, three types of machines are used for this.  Garrett AT gold or Pro because it is cheap and waterproof, XP deus, preferably HF round or HF elliptical head.  I think this is where most chains can be found with Deus.  The new machines are the Equinox 800/600, this is also popular, I have been using it for two years but I only found 1 chain with it.  That's not the real thing for me.

  2. On 10/27/2020 at 7:01 PM, Jeff McClendon said:

    The situation may be different in Europe but here in the USA most of the dealer websites I visit are Sold Out of the HF coils or are charging top dollar for them. If I was water hunting here I would be using a coil that I know could be replaced easily. Whether the repair facility has them here is another question. COVID-19 is definitely having an effect on the supply chain from Europe and I don’t see that getting better soon. 

    This situation will not change for a while.  There will also be changes within Europe when the UK leaves the EU without an agreement in December.  The Xp is French and I think the English market is the biggest in this hobby.  And in continental Europe, it buys most used detectors from England.

  3. It is interesting how few use Deus in freshwater in the US.  Here in Europe, this machine is popular among water hunters.  I really like to use the HF scroll for jewelry hunting in the lakes.  But I know several hunters who can easily find a lot of chains, small earrings, the back of an earring with the old low frequency coil.  The HF coil is much more sensitive to gold.  The gold range changes as the frequency increases.  Therefore, it is much more difficult to learn typical values, coins.  In a very trashy place, it is more difficult to select the gold range.

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    ⁉️ Which one is better? Has anyone done a comparison test between the two coils for a jewelry hunt in the water? (freshwater or land)

     
    Both are able to use the same frequency. 28 kHz is very good for detecting gold. When I hunt in the water it is a very useful feature of target ID normalization. On the of LF coil, this was a big advantage. I set the gold range, so I only dug out the signals that belong to it.
    The HF 9" coil is great, but when I increase the frequency the VDI changes, getting higher and higher. The upper range will become narrower. This makes it difficult to decide whether to dig or not.
    Let's look at an example.
    A 1.5 g 14K wedding ring is the test object.
    HF 9 "coil at 14 kHz = ID 50, 28 kHz = ID 65, 56 kHz = ID 79.
    X35 11 "coil 11.3 kHz = ID 54, 16.4 kHz = ID 54, 25.4 kHz = ID 54!
    If I use frequency offset these numbers will change a bit.

    The general opinion of many people is that the HF coil is the best. I'm not so sure about that. I looked at this idea in terms of the gold jewelry hunt.
  5. On 8/13/2019 at 6:15 PM, Chase Goldman said:

    Gold chains are a relatively rare find c....   .....Most vlf induction balance detectors have trouble with chains, period.

    Are the freshwater sites you are hitting giving up a lot of gold jewelry besides chains?  Why are you expecting to see a lot of chains at these sites?

    What settings are you using at these freshwater sites?

    Thank you for your response Chase, sorry to answer just now.
    These beaches are very different, with a small pond with a pebble bottom. From here came many other gold objects, many silver objects, including many silver bracelets and chains. In addition, there are more than a dozen different gold pendants. But only 3-4 chains. I searched very carefully with different machines. Deus, Excalibur, Equinox. Another example is a very popular but large beach with volcanic sludge where the machines go crazy with lots of tiny iron trash. There with many colleagues who regularly walk the water. The ring is a very rare hit here. Nowadays I tend to find open earrings. I guess because they are harder to find.
    Interestingly, those who use Deus often find chains.
    I see a lot of people use Park1 / 2 Filed 1/2 programs in freshwater. I couldn't make these programs stable because they produce continuous fake signals in the 1-2 range. Another possibility is that there are so many tiny little trash in the water. I use the beach1 program because it gives me the most stable machine and acceptable depth. Somehow I always come back to this.
    I'm trying to create a setting that can detect chains in the 1-2 range without a lot of false signals.
    I find many small pieces of lead. 3-6-8 range, much more than Deus. But less aluminum than Deus. I think about the multifrequency.
    Sorry for the bad kindness, the translator helped.
    I want beach 1 mode stability with single high frequency for gold. 🙂

  6. I am disapointed a little with Nox freswater capacibility. You must choice you wanna find chains or rings. Tested the Equinox with a gold chain piece without pendant and clasp. (not thin chain, 3cm long, 1g , 14 karat found by Deus HF coil) , small rings, etc.    The detector pick this gold chain, only  Park 2, and Gold 1,2 mode. If you want use these modes in water and the ground got continously 1 TDI , you never will found. The rings not problem I think, but i did 40-50 hour hunt with nox and didn't find any gold thing.

     

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