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Thanks very much to all the members of this forum for the precious advice. 

Finally i chose the f75 LTD (i found one like new for 300€) because i had a very good feeling, some Years ago, with the T2. I Will use It when i don't  want to spend too much time with the set-up, and when i want to relax.

Maybe in the future i will try and buy the Legend, but now i still prefer use my Deus 2 ( ws6) and try to learn It well to unlock his full potential, with different programs like tekna. 

Thanks very much 

Hello to everyone. 

Here Is my problem, i already have a deus 2 (ws6) and i'm very happy, but some times i want a metal detector more easy to use and relaxing. 

In the 400$ price range i found the o Fisher f75 LTD and the nokta Legend. I like the F75 because is very Easy to setup and i love the tones ( i had a T2). 

But now with the new Legend update i read they improve a lot, also Is waterproof and multi frequency. But i think Is more difficult to setup in than the F75

I search in fields and woods in Italy, i Need a good discrimination and a fast recovery, also sometimes there are bad E.M.I problems. 

Thanks very much 

This minelab Voyager seem very good. 

There Is a Little problem, on amazon.it ( italian Amazon). There Is sunpow brand that make this model, It looks like the Voyager ( price 98€) 

There Is a test on YouTube of the sunpow

On 8/5/2022 at 4:04 AM, JCR said:

I received my 8" round Concentric coil today from Richard at Backwoods Detectors, I also went ahead & got the SuperSix coil also. It is very dry here so the Iron is very well behaved. I won't be able to judge the Concentric until we get some rain to make the iron come alive. I think it will do well though. It separates almost as well as the 8"XS coil & is about as deep, hitting 8" targets solid & touching on my 10" Dime with less than Max settings. The SuperSix separates slightly better than the 8"XS & that is phenomenal. It soft hits 8" targets. Both are very stable. I'm glad I got both coils.

i live in italy and the fields are very polluted with trash, foil and iron i have the vista x with stock coil.

i don't know if the small super six or the 8 concentric coil is better for my situation which one do you suggest?

someone tried the new concentric coil for the vista x?

i have one on teknetics g2, great depth and groud coverage, also very sensitive on small items is a good coil

15 hours ago, phrunt said:

I think it's all to do with sales figures, do you think it would sell well if another manufacturer made one? I don't.   If it sold well Tesoro would still be alive and kicking.  If you owned a business making metal detectors would you think it'd be a wise investment of your money developing an analog detector for the nostalgic or for the very small percentage of people that would buy one as they know how to use them to their benefit and like them?

As mh9162013 said the market for detectors is small enough, add to that some niche product with an appeal to a very limited user base and you're going to make a loss on the product.

Nokta worked out some time ago to throw a lot of bells and whistles on a basic digital VLF and you can turn a basic unit into something people want that will sell well. For them making an analog unit would seem like taking a step backwards.

Deeptech is doing it, I don't see many using them, they're not taking the forums and social media by storm with swarms of users rushing to get one.    They maybe good in the right hands but they just don't have the appeal to the masses that like modern bells and whistles detectors do.

The Vista X is 499 Euros, with conversion that ends up being about $550 USD although I'm not sure what US dealers sell them for, if they do.   So that sits it not much more in price than the Vanquish Pro Pack, an entry level machine.   Not a big money spinner for them.   It maybe viable for them to make it in Bulgaria with costs structures and make a reasonable profit, a company like Minelab or even Garrett and First Texas would likely not see it a viable proposition.

My only analog detector is a Gold Bug 2 so I'm certainly not well versed in analog detectors, I think analogs would appeal more to long time detectorists that were around when analog was the go to detector.

what do you mean with the deeptech vista X conversion?

i bought a deeptech vista X, the newer version with 6 pin coil and different knob, i love it i paid 480€ for it.

for that price there are digital metal detector easy to use. For the vista X the learning curve is huge, but the performance are stunning, i prefer the analog metal detector because i feel more relax when i use, also the sound "speak" better than vdi numbers or 4-5 tones

i try the arrow on the G2, too much snow and ice but i like it.

Great depth on big and very small and tiny items, no false signal or chattering. 

Easy pinpoint and ground balance.

only downside is the VDI numbers, for me they are too high and stable so i dig some junk, but is a new field very very polluted,i dug very small pieces of foil paper.  i will do more tests and try more outside.

Today Is the day, Is very very big coil. 

This weekend i Will try It, i Hope the snow on the field Will be melted. 

I did some air test, very sensitive on small target like the 5 inch coil and Better dept 

Maybe today or tomorrow this coil Will arrive, i am waiting for the italian post. 

I want put it on my G2 and try 

I bought the Arrow coil for teknetics g2, with black Friday discount. I Will make some test and video, with a review 

Very good price for black Friday 

https://www.thrace-detectors.com/detech-ultimate-13-simplex

i found this coil on thrace metal detector.

i will buy it for Christmas, and try it on teknetics G2. I search in north Italy, the fields are full of old rubbish is a nightmare,foil and old aluminum caps everywhere. But i found a piece of old mid 1500 silver coin, so maybe this coil is perfect for me.

i will write a review 😉

Thanks very much for the advice.  

I will wait for the new makro nokta, for now i use the t2 and simplex for more time in the fields.

Thanks Steve H. Is a pleasure read what do you think 

hello,

i love the analogic machine, with no display but only knobs and switch, i have a nautilus dmc iib.

i want to buy a fisher cz-3d, i search on field with low grass they have a lot of junk like alumium foil, and iron.

the problem is that: in italy the fisher cz-3D cost 1000€ new, i think for an old machine is a very high price. what do you think? there are other brand and model to consider?

i already have the makro simplex, teknetics t2 

On 4/3/2021 at 7:50 AM, Valens Legacy said:

Nice looking unit, but I wish they would have stated how much it costs.

Good information Steve thank you for posting it, I just have to track down the cost .

it cost 60€ XP had a great idea, to produce this sluice. In EU and Italy there are only few model of sluice and they cost a lot. i wanted to buy it from the online store but is out of stock everywhere, i need to wait

i like old analogic metal detector, my favourite brand is white's.

The only way here in Italy to have a GMZ was to bought it from aliexpress, also White's now probably stop production, i prefer original metal detector and not china clone but there was only this way to have it 😬

4 hours ago, kac said:

I would think there are still real GMZ's out there for sale but just have to keep your eyes out for them. Just like many of the Tesoros. Personally I would wait to see what Garrett/Whites comes out with. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the popular Whites models go back into production.

On another note you could flatten that box out a bit. Cut a piece of 2x4 to fit inside and put it on another block and give it a few wacks with a hammer. Should look bit better.

Does it still work?

yes the metal detector works, with some hammer job i think to restore it.

i will make a viseo

3 hours ago, Geotech said:

Now that I think about it, the GMZ may have used a Classic board design. I was thinking it was GMT-based but it was not. Dan Geyer designed it just for kicks and it worked pretty well, so White's decided to sell them. I think he took a Classic, bumped it up to 48kHz, and added a manual GB.

i tought that the gmz was  based on the gmt, but he pcb is different, there are some empty spot on the pcb of my gmz.

maybe was used also for other metal detector.

i bought this beacuse in italy is impossible to find a gmz, and buy from America is too expensive for the shipping.

maybe is helpful for some user that have the gmz and need spare parts

i will remove the post, if it is a problem. i'm sorry 

Hello my friends.

i bought a white's GMZ from aliexpress, i know that fake metal detector is a bad thing,

i love white's but now the gmz is out of production and i want it at all cost, please don't judge me too hard for bought this

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the metal detector come in a bad shape, very dented, but the fault was only of the custom and shipping company

The seller is very professional, now want to refund me, i know is not his fault. the metal was very well protected.

in italy now there is a lock down so i will spend some time to restor the metal control box also, put new rivets for the handle.

the metal detector works very good, i very excited to try it i put some photos.

thanks to the build quality and the metal box it works, i will make a video