benzyoc

Next time I'm out there I'll ask around about section 19 and stick to dans claims. I know they have outing events on 19 all the time. Even sponsored events right at burn. But just doing what everyone else does doesn't make it right.  If I figure anything out I'll post. 

My understanding of the area is this. 

Odd sections are owned by the railroad. Even sections are BLM/public. However I hear some of the blm land sold and so did the railroad land  

Big mining company "XX_mining etc "  buys up claims and sells/leases them on ebay or other sites. Rinse and repeat. 

Basically. If it's marked stay off unless you have permission. 

I suggest learning to prospect before getting a claim. No point in owing a claim if you can't get the gold. Or use the LR2000 find out who owns section 19&17 lease the land and run everyone off! Then detect for a year to find a few nuggets lol. 

Years  ago I heard a story about a guy that bought a claim at rye patch.   Spent a bunch of money on equipment, etc. pushed large areas with his tractor. Didn't find very much. He convinced himself that "everyone" took all his gold. He left broke. But b4 he did he threw thousands of BBs all over his diggings. 

It's very easy to get access to a majority of the claims at rye patch. I would start with buying a pizza. It's a good place to meet new people and learn about prospecting. If you come across anyone that actually spent time near your claims buy then a beer and pick their brain. Almost everyone is friendly and loves to tell stories. 

Good of luck and find a fatty!

5 minutes ago, Rail Dawg said:

Every claim in Sections 08, 18, 20, 24 and 30 I know are fully claimed.  

The odd-numbered sections are privately owned and Nevada Law does not require owners to post No Trespassing signs.  

We as prospectors are obligated to find areas that aren’t claimed or privately owned.  

To not do so earns one the title of Claim-Jumper or Trespasser.  

MyLandMatters.org is a great place to do research as is LR2000.

 

Spreading misinformation helps no one.

Being a land owner in NV I am well aware of the trespassing laws. 

I posted the actual law. Long story short, if it's not posted by a few different means . It's not trespassing.

NRS 207.200 Unlawful trespass upon land; warning against trespassing.

1. Unless a greater penalty is provided pursuant to NRS 200.603, any person who, under circumstances not amounting to a burglary:

(a) Goes upon the land or into any building of another with intent to vex or annoy the owner or occupant thereof, or to commit any unlawful act; or

(b) Willfully goes or remains upon any land or in any building after having been warned by the owner or occupant thereof not to trespass,

is guilty of a misdemeanor. The meaning of this subsection is not limited by subsections 2 and 4.

2. A sufficient warning against trespassing, within the meaning of this section, is given by any of the following methods:

(a) If the land is used for agricultural purposes or for herding or grazing livestock, by painting with fluorescent orange paint:

(1) Not less than 50 square inches of the exterior portion of a structure or natural object or the top 12 inches of the exterior portion of a post, whether made of wood, metal or other material, at:

(c) Fencing the area; or

(d) By the owner or occupant of the land or building making an oral or written demand to any guest to vacate the land or building.

3. It is prima facie evidence of trespass for any person to be found on private or public property which is posted or fenced as provided in subsection 2 without lawful business with the owner or occupant of the property.

4. An entryman on land under the laws of the United States is an owner within the meaning of this section.

4 minutes ago, LukeJ said:

Not me.  Never been to Rye Patch.  I find my own nuggets.  Thanks.  

I was just helping out a fellow prospector. Sometimes a test nugget makes all the difference. 

40 minutes ago, Rail Dawg said:

I think Section 19 is owned by Newmont Mining.

I'll do a quick search and find out although they did own it for years or have the lease on it.

Have spoke with them recently and they insist they don't want trespassers on their property mainly for liability reasons.

I'm friends with many claim owners out there and we keep an eye on each other.

I must admit if you steal one game camera it would be funny to have the other cameras catch that lol.

No worries we're all prospectors.

Don't claim-jump and don't trespass I think we'll all get along just fine don't you?

Tresspassers on their land?  In Nevada which is a open range state if you don't want people on your land you put a fence up or post no trespassing signs. The lack of signs and fences speaks volumes. 

Owning a claim I'd different from leasing claim or owning the land. 

For example. If you claim a BLM section you own the mineral rights but the land is public. Citizens can use that land like any other public land. They just can't take the minerals you claimed. 

1 minute ago, LukeJ said:

Who me?

Are you one of the guys from dans I gave a nugget too?

4 minutes ago, LukeJ said:

I'm not sure how it would be illegal to take a picture of someone's license plate.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it's the law enforcement officials that 'run the plates'.  I'm pretty sure they do so when a crime, like mineral trespass has been committed.  The pictures of the license plates and the pictures of the illegal mining are used as evidence in charging criminals with a crime.

 

Citizens running plates is a crime. Law enforcement is a different story. Law enforcement wouldn't just give a citizens phone numbers of other citizens based on pictures. But we all know this. 

Clearly mark the claims. People will stay off. 

Everyone I detect with always respects people's claims. If I'm not mistaken are you the guy I with his brother I met at dans place. I think I gave you a little nugget?

Wouldn't take a camera but you illegally run people's plates? That's funny. 

If the claims are clearly and properly marked I doubt many people will chance jumping on to a claim especially one like section 18. Section 19 has plenty of detectable gold and it's not claimed. Also Dan kindly offers his GOOD claims to anyone for 20 bucks a day. 

A simple google search shows that " running plates" is illegal. So if your running plates I wouldn't advertise that. None of the land is marked no trespassing. Owning a claim is different from owing the land. 

Also so if I see a game camera laying around on on unmarked land it's going in my backpack. 

Best solution is to clearly mark your claims. I doubt many people are interested claim jumping the sections you have. 

Make friends with the local people. 

You catch more flys with honey.

I will be at the outing representing the WolfPack!  It's gonna be a blast!

I was genuinely disappointed that the distortion turned into a target.  Glad "Captian save a hole" was there to help out. A little mojo from LuckyLundy goes a long way. 

I encourage people to run a noisy machine, they leave more gold for me! Don't forget there's no gold at rye patch and everyone should run max sensitivity on their gpz7000 for best results. ?

I thought it was you Paul . Luck guy! Australia sounds awesome hope I get to go one day. Find lots of gold!

rudy

One thing minelab always get right is its customer service. I sent in every detector I owned besides my 3000 and they always repaired it promptly. Glad they helped Paul out. I'm sure it's been discussed but isn't the airline responsible?

It's just a 1 inch adapter with schedule 20 pvc. Any longer the cord would be too tight. It's a little tricky fishing the cord through but it's not bad. 

There's hardly any flex. I get a extra 6 inches. Gives me a nice wide swing and it keeps that coil away from all the metal on me. I never understood why minelab made the length so short. But I used the extra long lower shaft from doc on all my gpxs so maybe I'm just use to it. 

I'm gonna give away the best secret. If it beeps dig it! Also no threshold and a very high sensitivity helps. 

Thanks Rick for the awesome story. We had a ton of fun. Whenever anyone tells you "there's no more gold at rye patch" remember ricks story. Three guys detected a total of one day and got almost a ounce. Plenty of gold left. I can wait to get back. I'll be fighting the heat 4th of July weekend. Hope I find another fatty!

Your settings are best for small gold.i like the larger deep stuff.

I do not know the inner workings of the tracking system. Just my opinion but I always want to use the minimum ground balance needed to get the job done. Ground balance is just ground discrimination. Eliminating a ground signal carries with it the risk of eliminating a gold signal that looks similar to the detector. Needlessly eliminating responses that the actual ground does not produce would in my opinion be counterproductive.

This is exactly how I feel. When I  dig hot rocks or those patches of old burnt roots at rye patch I know my detector is running HOT. Thats how I like it.

Settings

General

Normal

Fixed tracking

Low smoothing

Gain 11-15 depending on noise.

I dont find the tiny tiny shallow stuff like high yield does. But i find those deep deep 1 grammars no problem.

This update scares me. I have a few questions if anyone can help.

Does this ferrite bead just dumb down the machine sensitivity so it runs quieter?

Is minelab just over ground balancing the machine to make it run smooth? Kinda like ground balancing on a nugget, you just track it out.

Has there been any testing on actual sensitivity vs the old version?

My concern is that minelab has made the machine less sensitive to make it more stable. The noise doesn't bother me one bit. I have no problem picking out the super faint targets through the ground noise. I read about people doing crazy things like not running threshold and such to make the machine stable.

The 40% claim I fell is correct. But there is a lot that goes into it. Its all about listening to what the detector is telling you.

Gotta love Luckys post. We had a blast. Dan ruined our last day by keeping the mugs full of beer. I think Lucky had me on weight b4 I nailed that fatty.

Rudy

Thats my crusty paw next to ricks. Rick and I made that old patch look new. That 7000 is no joke. Its amazing how deep it goes. Stlll gotta learn the detector but it fels like my gp3000. The transition was easy.