karlchick

The city of Kharkiv in Ukraine where NEL is based has been under sustained Russian attack since the beginning of the war in Ukraine, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are not responding quickly.

@Mike305 I had a good chat with Darren from Regtons about the issue. He says that the issue exists for ALL NEL coils for Garret ACE Apex. The issue does not exist for NEL coils for any other detector, just the Apex NEL coils. The issue is that when using a NEL coil on the Garret ACE Apex in MS mode - it will not detect sterling silver / aluminium (or similar metals of same VDI range) at all. This is only applicable in MS mode, in all other modes like MF and single frequency it works fine. Given that you normally would only use MS mode to detect on the wet beach, this may not be an issue for most people. For me, I detect 30-40% of time on the beach, and do like to search the wet sand areas (away from the dreaded BBQ zones) where people tend to play in the waves/shallows. Darren said that the issue wasn't spotted during the initial UK trials with early samples provided by NEL (Regtons are based nowhere near the beach in the Midlands), but later a beach based tester spotted the issue and when Regtons checked MS mode with air tests confirmed the issue on all the NEL coils and fed the issue back to NEL. Given that NEL are based in Ukraine and the war with Russia, I suspect it will be quite a long time until they are in a position to develop/update/release an new design that resolves this issue. So if MS mode is important to you, probably best to look to other manufacturers. Personally I'm still attracted to the NEL, having to accept that I can't use a NEL on wet beach areas, but otherwise having a great coil of similar effective radius (11.47") compared to the Reaper (12.23") for almost half the price (£90 with a 10% discount code) and a lot lighter to swing - 420gm vs 555gm, so 25% lighter! I'm also weighing up if the Reaper coil (being heavier and slightly larger) will: give me arm ache after a whole day detecting! be as good as the NEL superfly at finding small coins at depth. Failing that, I'm wondering how much better the Superfly is over the Raider coil... if at all (I suspect it will be better).

Thanks for feeding back Mike, I wonder if the Nel coils they have in stock are from this "first batch"... the Superfly has been available over 2 years now... still very tempted to get the superfly for £90...

@Mike305 that's very reassuring. I am very tempted to get the Superfly from Regtons with 10% off, comes in at £90. Wondering if you get much extra depth compared to the Viper coil? Or perhaps just an improved signal and consistent VDI?

Hi, I am Karl from Gloucester in the UK. Started detecting summer of 2022 with a Garrett Apex and Viper coil and absolutely love it.

FYI, here is the notice on Regtons website: It has been brought to our attention that NEL coils for Apex units have a small glitch that’s unlikely to affect many users however it’s there. In MS mode ONLY the ability to detect larger high conductive targets is diminished or non-existent, large Silver targets are affected however Gold is not affected, this will only affect saturated salt, wet sand users, as that is the only place you would use that mode. For this reason, we have reduced the price of these coils to reflect.

@Mike305, I know this is a few years old... but am in the same position as you (viper on apex, thinking superfly). I see Regtons now has a warning that there is an issue using the superfly Nel coil in MS mode on the beach, and they've reduced the price due to this... Have you used the superfly on MS mode at the beach in salt saturated sand? Noticed any issues? Any update on you experience of using the superfly to find on edge silver coins? I'm hoping you are still around to reply, Best regards, Karl.