Jack and dog

AS i got stuff all feed back except for a few ( thanks ) the Jackwinder will now go into bothballs  & wait for Gold to hit monster values .

Regards

Jack

Well that's the end of the story , I've made a dry concentrator that uses gravity better in a newer way  to separate any gold from dry dirt material ,  the internals  make the gravel / dirt ~ liquid for a short time drop & secure any gold for later collection ,

They are not for sale yet  

Cheers 

jack

On 4/15/2022 at 11:56 AM, Joe D. said:

Nice work!

Love to see the evolution of an invention!

   Your last pic (red with logo) looks like your latest model is octagon shaped! Worked out better than round? Or easier to build, due to inward angle of walls? Sorta hard to tell from the one pic! And one in previous pic is painted black! I would guess any dark colors would get very hot in high temperatures! But white is probably too hard on the eyes, to be practical in bright sun!

  Interesting development in any case! Keep up the good work!👍👍

Yep that one with the logo was the last model with the updated internals etc' ' yes it's eight sided  with inward sloped walls because that shape out performs the round one's .

Color has little bearing except if you prefer camouflage  😉

6 hours ago, Joe D. said:

Nice work!

Love to see the evolution of an invention!

   Your last pic (red with logo) looks like your latest model is octagon shaped! Worked out better than round? Or easier to build, due to inward angle of walls? Sorta hard to tell from the one pic! And one in previous pic is painted black! I would guess any dark colors would get very hot in high temperatures! But white is probably too hard on the eyes, to be practical in bright sun!

  Interesting development in any case! Keep up the good work!👍👍

Yep that one with the logo was the last model with the updated internals etc' ' yes it's eight sided  with inward sloped walls because that shape out performs the round one's .

Color has little bearing except if you prefer camouflage  😉

Thanks for the photo , converted cement mixers have been used for decades , I made a similar design around 2011  , it worked but required a sweep back design near the lip to help stop gold being thrown out in the discharge .

The weakness  was the material slides when turning '  I hid wake up & started using slump angles  to improve my future designs  ☺️

Mine below :

13 hours ago, jasong said:

There used to be a guy named Wet/Dry Washer that posted to forums about 10 years back who built a similar type device. I was skeptical of it, but invited him onto one of my claims and he used it with a fair degree of success on the picker size gold and up, but it did get some smaller stuff too. His was much simpler, from my recall it was just basically a plastic tub from Walmart, a bit of steel angle, and some various Harbor Freight parts like roller bearings, etc. It was a lot lighter and easier to set up than a drywasher, he was in his 70's and hiked it around. 

Hi ,

Do you remember what the shape was ?    I'm curious   🧐

Cheers

Jack

9 minutes ago, BobC said:

Okay, a little more understood. What if you added a spiral, like a gold wheel, then your heavy's would travel up with less chance of any loss

I like the way it works now ' it's fast , easy to use all day & very efficient  😄

5 hours ago, BobC said:

I can see you turn it by hand, but do not quite understand how it separates gold, a drywasher I've used and understand

It turns the dry dirt into a liquid momentarily thus letting gold sink deep to the rear , the lights  ( around 95% ) fall out through a door .

Then another 25lb bucket is processed every 2 & a half minutes , even after many buckets are put through it will still only have a third of a pan left of concentrates .

It's not like a dry-washer '' you sample first then run only best cherrypicked rich dirt through 😊

Easy to use with little dust ' no noise or breakdowns .

These guys would have loved one  

Late model JackWinder , almost there with this one  😉

Teddy back in 2012 looking a bit apprehensive  🙄

Young Barry at our panning station , we were on the gold ☺️

How to old timers did it  !

Around that same time a friend took a Jackwinder out to a very remote area where he knew there was lots of  porous gold that detectors had trouble seeing .

He got 2  ounces from this hole with the winder   😋

Jack

It's now 2017 , design has changed again for the better as this one is both fast & more efficient  .

Like all of them this is the tool to run the best pre sampled material through after it's been sieved .

First pics are my half inch bucket sieve ' I do go down to quarter inch when required .

Then the Jack Winder 🙂 more gold started to turn up !

11 hours ago, Ridge Runner said:

I see your problem it’s that lazy dog that’s doing less than nothing but we still love them.

 Chuck 

For sure Chuck , that little lazy dog has since passed  his name was Teddy ' he was 17 & a half  &  truly loved .

I would give all the gold I've even found to have him back again .  

jack

Later that year a better more simplified design is made , faster & easier to use :

More coming   

Time rolls on now 2016 , a new model is out ' this one had self adjusting internals that changed angles to help discharge the lights when turning anti clock wise &  did the opposite clockwise when concentrating down the gold   . 

☺️

Yes Chuck ' keep at it till you get it working the best possible .

Some more of my earlier  designs  :

They all worked but not good enough for me  🧐

More to come 

Back in 2014 I posted a new type of gold concentrator for dry material , well I've been working on better models ever since .

The story goes like this  🙂

First ' I had a rough idea about making a dry unit that would be better & different  .
I wanted it to be hand operated & still be able to concentrate  material quickly without loss of gold .

So the mission starts back in 2013 , I work at it with an obsession  design after design .
2014 ' I have a good working design ' I ask Dave to test on the field , he runs a tiny about of dirt & it works and finds gold that detectors can't see .
That design was complicated ' made from aluminium , expensive to make .

2015 - I start working on a a new concept & test more variations of this ,
2016 - I now have what I think is it , my old mate Barry & I test them out on the field with top results , but not good enough for me .
2017 - I change the shape of the design & internals ' I'm trying to get the thing to be faster & more efficient .
2018 - I keep testing whilst making more changes to try & figure out why it's not a performing perfectly .
2019 - I found the answer at last  in Feb that year !

Well not quiet ' took another year & I still cant stop trying to make it perfect  🙄

First photo back in 2014 field testing & some other models from around the same time 

 3rd photo field testing 2016 new design

More to come 

Jack

Thanks Guys ,

Now trying to remember how to attach photos ?

Jack 

I was last here back in 2014 I think .

Hope to share some of my adventures scoring gold in the desert .

Cheers & Beers

Jack

Thanks Rick , will speed up the sampling process greatly to get on the best gold .

Steve : I did weigh the churn on a spring fishing scale , was around 18lbs with the stand half that , feels lighter

jack .

Hi Steve ,

I like the analogy with dry panning , very few ever get the hang of that .

Will have to get back with the exact weight but it's easy to pick up with one hand ' think the stand is heavier as it's made from one inch square tube .

Cheers

Jack .

Thanks for posting the link Chis ,

I can try to explain the advantages , first off  ' efficiency & ease of use !     it's a light weight 10 second set up unit , designed for easy processing of material once you have found the best spot after doing the usual sampling ' being hand cranked allows the human to choose just the right amount of turns for the gold size being sort as the internal raking system will help drop the bigger gold faster then the tiny stuff .

I've tested it for fine gold & it does not lose any when turned a few extra turns per cycle , if there's any gold in the material you shovel in ' you can do a 2 minute run to find out .

Sure you will be able to run a lot more dirt through your Powered dry blower but it will lose some gold that the churn won't .

The churns main purpose is the concentrate down the best material when found for the final clean up , it's a prospecting tool not  a mining machine .

Hope this helps explains this simple unit .

Regards

Jack .

Below is a link to my new unit that's taken ages to perfect, will change the way dry prospecting is done for ever .

Link :- http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t19885-introducing-the-gold-churn

jack .

The big question is what you think is the better gold detector ' ATX or SDC ?
Sorry to put you in this position but your qualified to answer

Steve you are the detector guru , any gold unit question asked ' you have answered so well !

Smile