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I'd consider the Whites V3i to be a competitor to the CTX. Honestly, for my hunting I'd take another V3i over a CTX based on what I know about it.

Test the Equinox on some signals the Deus gets before digging them.

On 12/1/2019 at 6:22 AM, steveg said:

Gents,

I agree with you both, on the social media thing.  Those of us who weren't children of the "smartphone" age, are generally not nearly as tuned in to social media, etc.  Nor do we want to be.  I agree with you, Tim, I don't really think anyone much cares what I'm doing, etc., and yet the younger generation places their whole existence, from moment to moment (at least, the "perfect" existence that they "craft" for everyone to see) online.

 

 

Not everyone of that generation does.. I'm 19, don't use social media apart from forums, and don't own a smartphone. I spend my electronics money on metal detectors. 

PI's lack much in the way of iron disc, and the TDI has none at all, so that would be one of the worst possible locations to use one.

46 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I'll have to try that but then would there be any benefit to using that? I prefer as little filtering as possible, I know it hinders me in some way... As soon as the ground clears up from junk enough I'm always in all metal horse shoe mode.  I guess primarily because I look for gold, coin hunting has just become a side effect of owning a metal detector and old habits die hard. 🙂

 

F2 at 0 is less filtering than FE at 0 I believe, hence it's the only setting I've used. I'm always in the horseshoe mode, I like hearing iron. Most of the time I dig everything nonferrous since I primarily relic hunt.

Edit: Found the source for the iron bias statement https://www.dankowskidetectors.com/discussions/read.php?2,166825,page=6

I just wonder when Garrett will make something truly new. An AT Multi would be nice.

3 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

Do they give a double tone regardless of depth?  I usually encounter these near the surface because they are not heavy targets and their shape usually means they grab on to the ground and stay put at shallow depths.  Most surface targets tend to give a double tone as they echo off the coil edge.  But it could also be caused by their shape and orientation in the ground.

I'm not positive actually. I'll need to test that now.. The tone also is usually a bit more broken than conductive targets for me, I haven't been able to isolate a clean repeating tone on them.

I've only used F2 0, since I've read that that is the lowest possible setting. I don't like the idea of the detector doing something extra trying to exclude signals. I'd rather dig some large iron than potentially lose some deep or masked targets. 

Do they disappear with F2 at 0?

On 11/25/2019 at 8:28 PM, GB_Amateur said:

Another problem nail is the roofing nail because its head gives a 22-23 signal on the Eqx.  Depending upon its orientiation you may not get any iron grunt, and even under best orientation you are going to get both and have to decide if it's a roofing nail or a desirable target very close to a nail. 

I realized this recently, and it's super annoying. I have noticed that they tend to give a double tone, whereas good targets usually give a single tone.

I'd go with an Anfibio over the Kruzer. It adds a few things I wish I had.

I've never really been good with it. The audio seems harsh to me. It does seem deeper and faster than my AT Pro though, based on some signal comparing I've done. I haven't used it since I got an Equinox.

Nope. I've never used it much, it seems to not be as deep as the disc modes for some reason.

GEN is a threshold based all metal/true all metal mode. 

High tone at 43!? That's way too low of a tone break, for the USA at least. Nokta might want to change that.. I like to set the mid/high tone break on 3 tone detectors right on the zinc penny number to give them a broken signal (Actually I'm just used to that because it's where the AT Pro has it). So that would be sixty something on the simplex right?

In my mind, 50 tones just adds more tones to listen to; unless the processing is different I don't see how it could be more nuanced in the way that I listen to it. Right now I have mine in 5 tones, but zones 2&3 have the same tone, as do 4&5, which means I'm basically in 3 tones. 3 tones is what I'm used to and prefer. Since I dig everything nonferrous most of the time anyway I don't really need more.

On 11/19/2019 at 8:26 PM, GB_Amateur said:

It's taken me a long time to appreciate what Chase says here, even though he's been saying it (repeatedly) for about as long as he's been a member of this site.  I missed out on the analog epoch of (quality) metal detectors and it's taken me four years of repeated reminders that digits aren't the be-all, end-all.  I will go on one detour, though.  Equinox 5-tone mode will give considerable information in tonal qualities.  Is it as much as you get in multi-tone?  I'm not going to say that because I have no idea, but if you're like me and 50 tones doesn't fit your ear/brain, set the tone breaks in 5-tone to meaningful places and listen to the sweet music.

The only detector right now on my radar as a potentially missed opportunity is the White's V3I with all its graphics candy.  I love graphs!  It's the weight that shied me away, but maybe the balance of the V3i makes up for the extra weight.  Anyway, I'm on a detector acquisition 'diet' right now and the longer I wait, not only do the prices of existing detectors drop but so do the choices of new ones.  😉

 

 

I found the V3i to be ergonomically pretty decent, no worse than my AT Pro even though it's heavier. It's certainly a lot heavier than the Equinox though.

I don't get my information from the tones themselves. 50 tones seems to me just a way to audibly hear the numbers. I tend to focus on the way the tone shapes itself, is it stretched, short, loud, soft, etc. I don't know to what extent the Equinox is going to allow me to do this though. So far it seems better audibly than the V3i, but not nearly as nuanced as an AT Pro.

Why does that make it different from the processing on the Equinox? Won't it just be a version of the Equinox with reduced features?

I'm actually rather glad about the small range. It means it won't take so long to learn them.

I have mild curiosity, same as whenever a new detector is released. Entry level detectors have really improved since I first started with an Ace 250 in 2011.

Apart from waterproofing, and a dedicated beach mode,  I think the simplex has fewer bells and whistles than an f75. The Simplex has all metal, 2 tone, 3 tone, and beach modes. The f75 has more tone options, as well a the various processes (Bp, Cl, Pf, etc). 

Does the vanquish have any sort or ground balancing feature? Even if it is multi frequency, without ground balance, how is it going to compare to the simplex for example?

The f44 looks pretty decent for the price. I like that it has assignable tones.

1 hour ago, Cal_Cobra said:

I see this Bounty Hunter has a backlite, will it be the red one like it's counterpart?   Red backlighting is most excellent for night hunts.

I know I poo pooed this when I initially saw it, but I know the G2/F19 was a killer relic hunter in iron, and was supposed to be a button magnet, so it'll be interesting to see how this rehash updated model pans out.  Very curious to learn what the pricing will be.

 

Fixed it for you. 

What was the last actual new model from First Texas anyway? F11-44? I know those were probably the same technology, but they look different from the rest of their lineup.