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4 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Here where i live i have lots of open ground that never have been metal detected & most of these hills are gold bearing...just have to look for shallow gold deposits. Most creeks been rich in gold as also the rivers.  . 

Last photo is of us dredging with our Trev's Style Dredge. ..

 

Where do you live?

Im from the Dominican Republic.  .

We are more Golden!! 

viginia..Georgia.. PA.. Are all Gold zones where even potato nuggets been found.   

Is best to do your own prospecting .. No one knows what they are capable of locating.  

Is amazing how the Dominican Republic is not included and the Barrick Gold mine here is possible the largest in the world.  

4 hours ago, Hard Prospector said:

Fishing, hunting or prospecting,  there's nothing sweeter than access to private property

This is exactly how i been feeling lately.   Appreciated for having access to all these places. 

Here where i live i have lots of open ground that never have been metal detected & most of these hills are gold bearing...just have to look for shallow gold deposits. Most creeks been rich in gold as also the rivers.  . 

Last photo is of us dredging with our Trev's Style Dredge. ..

Im in  the Dominican Republic and here there is a lot of mining activity going on without permisson and some with permission but its all possible unless you are trying open up a huge open pit mine that always bring the communities aproval apart from the goverment.  

I would never believe in that kind of top soil there would be gold right at the surface basically ... 

There must be lots of gold for hibanking where you find gold with a metal detector specially around a creek.. 

From what i can see in the picture the bank gets deeper and there might be gold that is not reachable by detecting without removing top soil. 

Wow .. Thats a sweet setup but i could just only imagen something in that size over there. . 

I could only see setting something up with Hydraulic Nozzles removing all overburden then working it by hand to bedrock.  

Lots of people dont really understand what im trying to do here.  . 

I have seen them use bulldozers and large equipment . 

But i want to use something i could move far more easier to these remote location like water pumps or motorized winch with a bucket... 

I just wonder if you could see it working for me.  . 

These places have been work by mens with pick and shovel and there is still gold there just too difficult for them as it got deeper.  . 

3 minutes ago, flakmagnet said:

This is one of the more hilarious statements I have ever seen on any gold forum. Just had to say that.

I know where the BIG nuggets have been found and metal detectors seem to get more depth as the bigger the object . 

I know of people who have found here numerous times gold nuggets weighting in 60 to 80 grams and larger.  . 

And i dont know if where you live things are the same way but here where you find large gold you dont find fine gold.  

So this is my reason in saying that what i said.  .

So when you know these large nuggets are lurking around i just want to use a large hook to catch them.. Thats all. !!

Okay.. Thanks Steve .. so lets say i get a GPX with one of the largest coils 

Lets say the 40" coiltek or the 32" detech or a 25" NF DD coil.

Could i build something to scrap away overburden like a scraper bucket with a winch or a hydraulic nozzle .. The overburden is just clay over the pay layer most of the times. 

I have trouble here finding shallow deposits and i like the use of a metal detectorss and there is good gold in the hills. . 

There is something that is going on apart from them cheap metal detectors is always posted here.. 

Here where i live there have been various helicopeters flying around these large square coils. So there is something going on they probably dont want us to know And i see veryy little information on this. 

I have seen helicopters with large coils around here looking for gold.  . 

These same large coil these 3D Metal detectors use .. 

IDK if those could be a magnetometor which they could see the depth of bedrock and mineralization of layers. 

Over here theres very little shallow deposits. . 

Most shallow deposits here are associated with Hot Rocks and Lots of them ..

But finding these mountain areas isnt easyy.  . unless maybe a drone with a magnetometer can locate these shallow high mineralized areas.  . 

Is far from all power line or houses deep in the mountain areas.  

Hello everyone ..

I wonder if there anyone who uses a 3D metal detector to locate gold deposits @ around 15 to 20 feet deep... 

I have heard of larger nuggets of 1 and 2 pounds in size and gold deposits with 300 grams in a bucket of dirt being found in the river banks. 

Could a GPX with the New 30" coil   could reach a 1 or. 2 pound nugget  @ 4 feet deep... 

Im not interested in the finer gold just the bigger nuggets or a large concentrate of gold ..

Same thing i have posted as  a review on the GM 1000 dont trust much that discrimination bar to it be rock soliddd !!

And still digg it up more and swich angle to make suree is still rock solid thenn . Just move one. !.

Thank you for your review ..

Steve is it me or this thread sounds more like GPX 4500 vs GPZ  topic. 

Well i heard here of a lot of what i have been wanting to explain lately and is all coming from the mouth of the experienced . :)

I have read upon mix reviews on how it handles the ground / hot rocks. But i guess this is probably different for everyone at every different place and certain hot rocks could be picked up more with one then the other and visa versa.  

The faster response of the Zed is nice since i have notice from youtube videos you have to very slow sweep over some targets to get a signal but with such a large coil and heavy weight guess you wont be sweeping TOO fast. 

But is nice to see what everyone thinks about what is better for them after all. To me in the world of mining you would always want to invest in what you believe you could end up paying off better with a Price / performance ratio. So you must know where you at.  

Editors Note: This topic was split from the following thread - http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/3923-semi-auto-gpz-ground-balance/

I believe there is a lot of reasons of trying to turn  GPX into a GPZ.

They wont be never the same thing since they are in different technology .

But anyone would like to walk around with an more affordable machine that could pack a punch of the " GREATEST".

Im someone who started metal detecting and someday looking to upgrade to a heavier and more powerful machine.  

So after reading the pro and cons of each one i would pick a GPX over GPZ even if i found a Pound of Gold.  

-Lightest machine? GPX wins even with a larger coil.

-Coils price and more coil options? GPX takes that.

-immune to the hottest of ground? GPX i guess wins this since is a PI. Dont know where that ground exist but i know is out there.

Okay so i have seen running a GPX with one of the newer coils could match the performace on depth on sub-gram nuggets and up.

Now the GPZ would clearly stand out on tiny, spongy and specimen gold.  But wouldnt you have enough money left to even buy a SDC  2300?

I just dont see the reason of boasting a machine for ability to pick up super tiny gold when you need to pay so much for it.  That headline for me fits more a GM1000 since its a way less expensive machine.  

I would recommend not using much the gold indicator .. it could read out iron some targets and may be missed..

All targets must be almost dug to get a more solid reading. . But some tiny targets might not achieve this and might get a jumping signal from left to right even close to the coil.

I run mines as hot a possible.. but it sure isnt as sensitive in hot ground even a .3g could get lost in 2 inches. So you must investigate everything and be very careful. 

My GM gets only a VERY low volume from the external speaker believe it came with that issue. I just always try to carry headphones with me.

Thanks everyone for ya comments.  

And Mn90..im the only one on my sector nugget shooting that i know of.  People around have a muilti purpose vlf and use them for treasure hunt. But very little know how to operate these machine since they come in english. 

Kiwi- i start of on auto sen+ with discrimination and as it gets quite i meaning no ground noise or metal objects i try to back it down to deep all metal and sensitivity to 10 and it just might work well for a minute to i get very soon to a hotter piece of ground . So i just stay mostly in autosen+ and in discrimination mode . 

GoldRat- GoodLuck!! Hopefully you find a muilti Gram nugget =]

I love the discrimination on the machine i just couldnt figure how i would have ignore all these iron signals from blasting my earphones and digging it without it.

*something i notice is the sound coming off the speaker are kinda low at full volume . I dont think i could even hunt just using the internal speaker it makes me struggle with my hearing to pick up these signals .*

Yeah steve .. i was even getting some ground noise sometimes but i would just past the coil again if i didnt get a double signal i would just ignore it and move on.

And Thanks IdahoPeg!

I need to do a lot of scouting around and for being light weight, sensitive and with a long battery life it makes it perfect for walking around up and down hills finding new ground.  .