maxxkatt

Tried to get mine (just received yesterday) to repllicate your problem. Mine seems to work fine. Maybe you need to send yours back to Coiltek for repair or replacement.

I have a Lesche and Predator and I consider them of equal quality.

And I thought it was hot in Atlanta at mid 80's in morning and mid 90's in the afternoon.

Oh, but in Az 117 is not hot because it is so dry you  don't feel the heat. My dad said don't believe it, it is hot in AZ no matter what in the summer.

 Nice find! I can see how the coin got there. Heck if I was using an outhouse now, I would probably lose lots of coins, since now with my jeans around my ankles, coins always fall out of my pockets.

Wow! It pays to get out an hunt!

During my deep research of the Civil War action  in Georgia, the many stories of lost or stolen confederate payroll wagons pop up often. Interesting to read, but almost always you never hear tell of anyone finding a single silver or gold dollar of such shipments. So basically I Then there are the many stories about the buried or hidden gold from the Indian tribes located in North Georgia. Hidden before they were forcibly moved out of the state to Ok. Again, not actual stories of anyone finding these hidden caches.

The only story I believe is one from a retired Georgia State geologist who personally told me he personally saw this gold. A canadian came to north Georgia in the 70's and hit a pot hole in the Etowah or Chestatee River (cannot remember which) with his dredge. He recovered enough gold to cover a single bed from pillow to foot area. He saw the gold spread out on the bed. The guy went back to Canada the next day. Who could blame him to scram before the word got out. Just imagine what that would have been worth.

RS Yeman 2019 has it at MS-60 or MS-63 $400 to $700.

Find of a lifetime!!!! Stuff like this keeps me hunting. You just never, never know what the next dig will reveal.

On 5/5/2020 at 7:26 PM, phrunt said:

The Vanquish makes the perfect loaner machine for friends like that, it's just so easy to use and it's accurate ID's make it a joy for a beginner to dig up some good stuff, especially if they can remember the numbers to dig 🙂  I bet you'll end up using it quite often too when you feel like a lazy detect 🙂

Took my adult son out and he used my Vanquish 540 and I used my 800. Showed him how to turn on, select mode and start hunting.

Soon he as what do all the numbers mean. So I gave him the run down on typical numbers for different coins. and cautioned him to be aware that being co-located with different trash targets can alter the numbers display. So he said well then how do I know what these numbers mean. I explained if  he was lucky and swung over just a coin the numbers would mean something.

He just kept digging all sounds and number and had a blast.

25% deet won't deter those state birds?

anyone know of some public land between Atlanta & Chattanooga that you can hunt Civil War relics?

I have yet to figure out how to get good permissions in that area and wonder if there are some public lands up along the I-75 corridor between Atlanta and Chattanooga where Civil War relics may be located.

6 hours ago, coinhunterseth said:

I don't see any mention of it being waterproof though, which is somewhat disappointing. Hopefully I just missed that.

no it is only rain resistant. not waterproof. They will save that for the AT Pro Apex later.

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

It's like they directly responded to my "black eye if the pinnacle of what they can make is another Ace" statement 🙂

Although this detector is pretty cool I can't wait to see what they come out with to be the pinnacle of the AT Series.... they now have the technology to build on to replace that with something pretty special, and there is no way it will be long until it hits the market as they can't let the Ace series new leader be better than their flagship.  I'll wait for that before I get myself a new toy.

Good on you Garrett.

I am happy for Garrett. Lot of innovations at the entry level, eg Simplex, Vanquish and the Apex. I agree with Phrunt that the AP pro Apex will be next. But good strategy to go the Ace Apex first. Lots of people buying first time detectors these days. And guess what you start with a good Garrett Ace detector you are likely to upgrade to the AT Pro (or new when released AT Pro Apex.) Just based on the features and design, i probably would pick the Apex over my Vanquish 540. Still like the 540 because of same tones and TID's as my 800.

but good to see Garrett wake up and respond to the Vanquish and Simplex.

They said they have sold over 1, 000,000 Ace metal detectors. Not many detector companies can  say that about a particular series.

This is what i know about Doc. In March of 2018 when the big boy dealers were quoting 3-6 months for the 800 I got mine from Doc in 3 days.

A month ago when I wanted a unique configuration of a detector that no one was selling, dog arranged it for me in 3 days.

He is my go to guy.

It is a good book. The only part I caution people about is using the settings that he mentions from other 800 users. You need to lern to set up your own settings for each of your situations. Using other's settings in your situations can lead to a de-tuned 800. I fell into this trap in 2018 for 2-3 months before I saw the light and listed to many detectorists who told me to learn to set my own 800 up according to my particular hunting site. For instance a guy might be hunting CW relics in South Carolina with very mild soil and not much modern junk and give you his settings. Yet you may be in a CW relic site with much different conditions like soil and much more junk and his settings will just not work for you. LEARN TO UNDERSTAND AND SET YOUR OWN SETTINGS. ALL OF THEM. IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE EFFORT.

Again this is the only part of the book I disagree with.

How good is this for our hobby? From looking at new members each day here and other forums seems to be a lot of newbies. They have a bunch of great choices that won't break your bank account.

They can pick from the Garrett Ace line, AT Pro, Nox 600 & 800, Simplex+, Vanquish series, the new Garret Apex and maybe several new detectors from Minelab next year.

Maybe some old times can tell us if there was a similar period of great detectors to pick from.

I had the same problem. I bought the Simplex+ as a backup to my 800 and for my boys to use when they are hunting with me.

Sold the simplex+ because it was too different from the 800 in terms of TID and tones. Got the Vanquish 540 because tones and TID almost identical machine and easier to teach someone than the good but different Simplex+. Not knocking the Simplex in any manner, it just was a personal choice for reasons stated above.

I am aware that in the field of actual hunting the air test and even test garden test don't serve us well. Posted the post mainly because a number of people have asked how do the Vanquish 540 TID's compare to the 800.

Co mingled junk with good targets is the bane of my detecting existence in metro Atlanta. Not so lucky as Calabash digger hunting CW relics out in the countryside with less modern trash to deal with. In the field, I have not had much luck using discrim patterns, pretty much listen to everything. Would love to be able to have a solid and reliable discrim pattern, but have not found one for relics. Coin shooting in a trashy park is another matter. I can effective get rid of most junk, but give up chances on rings.

Robnc, "i'm perfectly happy with the Equinox 800, so much that I even use the WM08 module and gray ghost headphones instead of the included wireless headphones. To me they just sound better."

to me the wireless headphones with the 800 were dull and muffled sounding. I went with the Trond TD-BH01 wireless headphones which to my ears sound much better.  They ARE Bluetooth 4.2 and pair fine with the 800 and the Vanquish 540. I am a happy camper with them.

If you or anyone knows the numbers on the 600 and 800 they are almost the same. The farthest off on a lot of my air tests was one digit on two items. 

I bought a Simplex+ for that reason, to backup my 800. Simplex+ is a fine machine but way too different for me in tones and TID values.

Sold it and bought the Vanquish 540 with an 8" and 12" coil. Love that machine. It does not see as much very small stuff as the Equinox so is not a noisy and gives more solid TID and signals over good targets. It is fun to use. No worry about if you have the right adjustments set properly. you just turn it on, select a mode and start hunting. Has rock sold shaft with no wiggle like the 800.

The 540 was the perfect choice for me. And it is a very good multi-IQ detector.  only drawback is I cannot use it in creek hunting for fear of slipping and dunking the 540 which is no way water proof. Of course I have the 800 for that and once even it leaked and I had to send it back to Minelab for a replacement.

I have owned my 800 since March 2018 and Vanquish 2 weeks. I had heard the TID’s were the same so I got out my extensive collection of junk and some CW bullets and silver coins to do some comparative air tests.

I was in the relic mode on the Vanquish 540 and the Field 2 mode on the Nox 800.

Nickels came in at 13 on both.
Beaver tail only came in at 9-12 on 540 and 9-11 on 800.
Small flat button came in at 11-11 on both.
Small square tab horizontal came in 13 on both.
Small square tab vertical came in at 14 on both.
Horizontal means hitting it from the broad side.
Vertical means hitting it from the narrow end.
Pull tab that is complete but with the beaver tail folded back over the ring came in at 16 on both.
Large square tab off a big monster drink can came in at 17 on both.
Zinc penny came in at 21 on both.
Flattened aluminum screw cap came in at 22 on both.
Wheat penny was 25 on both.
1980’s copper penny was 25 on both.
Clad dime 25 on both
Rosie dime 27 on both
Standing Liberty Quarter 30-31 on 540 and 29-31 on 800.
Silver qtr 1964 32 on 540 and 31-32 on 800. People have indicated that the Vanquish locks on to single digits better than the 800 with some targets. I believe that is because the Vanquish is not seeing as much small metal under the coil as the Equnox. But these are air tests so I don’t know what causes the difference in this case and a few other cases.
Silver half dollar was 35 on the 540 and 34 on the 800.
Morgan was 38 on the 540 and 37 on the 800.

This is where I came in with a problem setting my Civil War relic hunting Discrim pattern on the 800:

Pull tab that is complete but with the beaver tail folded back over the ring came in at 16 on both.
Pull tab ring only came in at 13-16 on both.

.59 cal 3 ringer was 18 on the 540 and 16-17 on the 800.
.69 cal 3 ringer was 19 on the 540 and 16-17 on the 800.

The .58 and .69 3 ringers caused me grief in setting up Discrim because to get rid of the nasty pull tab with  folded over and  pull tab ring only I would have to Discrim out 16 but that would take out the 3 ringers. Ran extensive test on the above problem and could not get a good Discrim pattern to solve that problem.
But on the Vanquish 54 it worked like a champ because the 3 ringers came in at 18 and 19 so there was not  pull tab ring only conflict. Funny I thought it would be just the opposite problem with the 540 have 2 tid’s per Discrim block. But the fact is in terms of a useful Discrim pattern for my Civil War relic hunting, the 540 has an edge over the 800.

Steve does a fantastic job with this forum in my opinion. I am members of 3 other popular metal detecting forums. For some reason Steve seems to attract some of the best members that are very helpful and polite.I will not criticize other forums because they are just different, not bad.

On 1/26/2020 at 9:26 PM, Steve Herschbach said:

The Minelab ML-80 headphone is made by another company and sold under other brand names. The Miccus Stealth SR-71 has been a popular alternative. Unfortunately an update has possibly made the latest version of these headphones incompatible with the Minelab Equinox. From this ad:

"IMPORTANT NOTE FOR METAL DETECTOR USE: The current SR-71 Bluetooth 5.0 release DOES NOT work with metal detecting equipment. The reviews are citing earlier 4.2 versions of the headphones."

This also for the Miccus website:

"Are different brands of Bluetooth products compatible? Yes. Bluetooth manufacturers are required to make their Bluetooth products compatible with all other Bluetooth devices; failure to meet this requirement means products cannot legally display the Bluetooth logo. Just because a device is Bluetooth enabled, however, does not mean it supports the A2DP stereo music profile. All Miccus Bluetooth products support A2DP and will only work with other Bluetooth devices that support the A2DP profile as well."

as an aside to this. I tired to get the SR-71 headphones to work with Equinox and Vanquish. Will not work as Steve indicated, SR-71 is bluetooth 5.0 and the Equinox and Vanquish are bluetooth 4.2

Someone on a forum clued me into the Trond TD-BH01 headphones. Both work perfectly with the Vanquish and Equinox detectors that support wireless headphones. Plus they have very good audio compared to the Minelab ML-80 headphones which to my ears sound bassy and seem to have lost out on the higher freqs. I  like my high tones on high conductors to sound high and not muddy.

On 4/21/2020 at 7:18 PM, Bashin said:

The next door neighbor walked by today while i was out in the parking strip detecting, and suggested I try their front yard and parking strip area. I got my first permission and didn't even have to ask! 🙏   So I just did a quick session out in their parking strip, and applied some of the suggestions from the replies to my original post. 

Eureka! 

I dug way less trash, and in 1/2 an hour got four copper pennies and a clad dime. No silver or wheaties, but I'm pretty happy with the new knowledge.  There were some signals in the high thirties that showed to be deep, that I haven't dug yet, but I will look at those tomorrow.  I hope to get out to a park area tomorrow that was originally established in 1880.  It's morphed quite a bit but a good portion of it is still a park.  We shall see...

My theory if you can recover clad you can get silver. Just have to get your detector over some.

I have to admit you have a tiger by the tail. New to the Equinox and new to metal detecting. Where do I start.

First of all stay in one of the standard modes. Way to early to be messing around with settings other than sensitivity.

Why did you pick the 800 as your first detector as a total newbie?

They have a long and steep learning curves for a newbie. The Vanquish 540 would have been a better choice.

One of the main problems is the 800 is a hot, hot detector. Meaning it sees every little spec of metal in the ground and has a tendency of making small pieces sound big and big pieces of junk like a squashed tin can sound like a coin.

What you are seeing with jumpy TID's is the Nox reporting a lot of stuff under each coil swing. The ground in most places if full of junk. Just turn on the horeshoe start sweeping. In a lot of places you here constant hits.

Buy Clive Clylnick's three books on the Equinox and study there carefully and practice what he writes about. Probably the best written guides for the Equinox by any author.

Literally you have way too much to learn to put in a post. I got my nox 800 in April 2018 and took me more than a year to learn and I have been metal detecting since 1987.