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Dang you guys 😉 

Not to figure out from many options 

No hurry , ground will be frozen here soon , no option for snow-birding this yr. ;( 

Thanks 

I've had for yrs a couple of hand held scoops , the one I like the least is made with sheet metal with about 1/4" holes punched  - didn't like it because only very loose sand / dirt would go through .

Nest was one made from welded wire - this one would breakup wet sand & dirt clumps ok .

What I am asking about is what I have seen on YT channels made from stainless & around 4' poles [ for us older hunters ] to not have to bend over 😉

I saw a brand [ I forget ] at a local detector shop - but is was made from thin sheet metal that I did not think it would survive pushing with foot into beach sand ?

Buying online does not tell much about quality ?

Lastly hoping to find a used one [ to afford ] seems like $500 there about / with handle for a little discount ?

So what brands are up to heavy use -- puching into wet beach sand with foot ?

I did a little searching , but did not see much ?

A while back , months or more same thing , found a post about a - clip-on & plug-in external battery and the link back then was not available in the US [ did not come up with todays search ] ?

But getting ready for a week to 10 day prospecting trip , so looking again .

My 800 does not have a lot of use , so not worried about battery replacement , just not able to charge from a remote mountain trip .

A couple of ideas occurred while searching & reading , needed spec.s for looking or building something ?

Will be doing some placer mining in Colorado . 

On 4/23/2023 at 10:08 PM, Jason-NEK said:

I have obtained one from a local metal detector dealer here in Kansas.  It works great with the Minelab 900 metal detector, but it is still unknown about if it works well with the new Manticore?

If you found a US supplier -- how about a link ?

I looked this up , most out of stock .

So far only one was also in UK -- but sold in UK only ?

Thanks Steve ,

I am going to post here & now anyway 😉

9 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B085DKHY5K

The add says APX , but shouldn't we looking for APX II ? 

Not sure if low latency Aptx II .

Do not know , yet , tried to email , but could not without giving ph. # , so will call Monday to find out .

Has anyone else seen or tried these ?

Should be good for hot weather , rain - " water proof " , if detecting in the road 😉

This was a YouTube link  https://reward-tech.net/inductivv/US/?ci=15162874074&ai=128802866145&de=c&dm=&cr=582320750802&ts=ytv&kw=&ac=1072036149&gclid=CjwKCAiAsYyRBhACEiwAkJFKoiGFBUyJ-UjIf5rzEIrtyOX1_qHyL4xMR26RjI94lV81fXkOVgJmgRoCsWAQAvD_BwE

I would say if the REALLY own the claim , then starting at 50% - then either side make there case .

There just too many variables to put a hard figure on it without more info .

If they do not own the claim --- 1st you have to see who - if anybody does .

Then if they just own the surface rights , may start at 10% --- but again too many variables , again off hand I generally do not think that a 50% split is way to much for you investment & experience [ unknown - have to assume ] , sure he owns the property --- but not the mineral rights , in some cases you could claim the mineral rights and demand access - is possible .

But to avoid issues , maybe as high as 25% .

If he wants 50% - he has to do the digging 😉

I'm also interested in others ideas , I have lots of deals , partners ect. and it goes all over the place , I've only turned down a few . 

Dang , somebody fines that large a nugget - that makes the price of gold go down - SUPPLY & demand ;(

Reminds me of a saying I was told - by a friend as we went to auctions ,

Prospective buyer offers $950,000 , instead of the 1 million asking price and the seller turns down the offer ,

" That's when two fools met " 😉

But then a million dollars ain't what it use to be ;(

Ok Trent & Dancer replies were what I was guessing , and replies that worked for me , thanks 

Still wanting some geological discussion , none above so far ?

Again , it's not a show I watch all the way through , just when I am going through the channels to see what's on , I stop & watch for a few min. , but so far every time I do , the seen is all flat ground , with sometimes hills mountains in the distance  , from most of what I have seen in the US , the big gold is in the mountains , with smaller gold in the flat lands ?

So again some geology explaining , thanks .

Not too long ago one of the local TV channels started showing Aussie Gold show .

What I started to notice almost every episode showed flat ground ?

So wondering how that works , from my understanding of geology [ limited ] we need generally plate tectonics / movement , heat , pressure , mountains etc.

So some guesses on my end , Australia has some of the oldest land masses , so all the high spots have worn-off ?    But then the river valleys do not seem to be there / deep ?

Is that more of the coriolis effect  

Hell I can't afford to get back to CA etc. , otherwise I would come down there to play 😉

Too many variables and terms in the question - prospector = someone looking for a place to mine 😉

Many good replies , where a person is & goes .

So we have to assume [ always trouble ] only metal detecting - not mining - that starts doing volume / equipment , so a more involved question limited to DETECTING either natural gold or manmade ?

No way to compare , in a real sense - to totalling separate things with the only thing in common is metal detector .

Hell , I know of someone that refines mostly stuff his wife gets at garage sales , dollar stores and has trained her how to evaluate jewelry , silverware etc. and scrap from jewelers between the 2 of them & working with jewelers , he has stated $30,000  a month .

The last couple of yrs. + doing electronics repair , I started recovering valuable metals from electronics , limiting that to just gold & silver [ I also get cash from copper , aluminum , stainless ect. ] is more than general detecting , but that is because of most of the time just in the metro area of St. Paul & Minneapolis , no natural gold to bother looking for - glacial deposits , most of the beaches have replaced sand with grass - bummer , and less & less gold in electronics .

But still prospecting all of the above - trying to get away from FIAT MONEY 😉

The link seems to be pointed at the middle east , north africa , 3rd world etc. ?

So DNA - does not apply - to no America ?

One of these days , hope to be able to take one or more of your classes 😉

No mention of the [ have to guess silicone grease ] , always a good idea for links to battery , maybe even a small tube of grease ?  

Now cast some gold bullets , what silver for vampires & gold for mammoth grizzlys 😉

I would like to come and play with , aaa fury friends & gold .

I was dredging in No Cal in the 80s , had to put gear on backpack & climb into creek [ 4-10' wide x 1'-4' deep ] end of summer .

Was working an area where I could just keep my head out of water bareilly , and feel around like racoon and then wait for the water to clear .

Bedrock was on one side ot the creek and dropped quickly , felt a CRACK then bedrock into the creek .

About the 3rd time working this crack - about one inch or so at the top , I looked down again with goggles on and while my face was in the water - I screamed [ maybe the 1st I remember ever screaming ] reached down , finger wide - looked much bigger , at the top of the crack was a nugget that was shaped like a heart , got on the scale latter and it weighed just under 3/4 ounce 😉

Started retiring from union carpentry 😉   

I was in Colorado about a month+ ago , this was an old load/hardrock claim , a very small creek between 2' - 6' wide & 3" - 6" deep , so not what I would call a placer claim at all [ not enough water to wash / have placer gold ] and doing any prospecting / mining in CO .

To me it seemed like lots of hot-rocks , between hotrocks & all the man made metal , I played more with sluice .

So looking at the 6000 , or other gold nugget detectors , it seems they are much better at not seeing the hotrocks ?

Then the issue of not familiar with the NOX enough , almost exclusively using on beaches so far & just using pre programmed settings , need to have more time to figure adjusting for prospecting in that are , now not until next spring ;(   

I have read Steve's article at least twice , his site & Minelab's , also bought the 6" coil .

Biggest problem is not being close enough to play / practice l(

But I do electronics recycling , so have some gold , some as pure as 22k+ , most is above 10 grams , have to melt some little ones to play with , but finding similar ground here is not going to happen .

Thanks  

I was in Colorado about a month+ ago , this was an old load/hardrock claim , a very small creek between 2' - 6' wide & 3" - 6" deep , so not what I would call a placer claim at all [ not enough water to wash / have placer gold ] and doing any prospecting / mining in CO .

To me it seemed like lots of hot-rocks , between hotrocks & all the man made metal , I played more with sluice .

So looking at the 6000 , or other gold nugget detectors , it seems they are much better at not seeing the hotrocks ?

Then the issue of not familiar with the NOX enough , almost exclusively using on beaches so far & just using pre programmed settings , need to have more time to figure adjusting for prospecting in that are , now not until next spring ;(   

If you have to ask , I would say no .

If you could answer the question , maybe .

Also a lot depends on how you live , the more stuff you want / need , the less likely you can make a living .

I made a living placer mining .

Detecting require much more knowledge / skill , basically that breaks down to the more you know , the less volume [ tones of earth ] you need to process - either placer or detecting .

Glad to have the site back , was worried for a couple weeks 😉

Haven't checked out everything that  " ultimate list of gold facts " but near the beginning ,

#14. It takes a special mixture of 1 part nitric acid and 3 parts sulfuric acid, called aqua regia, to dissolve gold.

Does not ring true , aqua regia is nitric acid & hydrochloric acid .

But I have also found that there are more things / combination of things that will dissolve gold  .   

55 minutes ago, phrunt said:

This guy has done one, while not perfect and it was his first video he did an OK comparison I think.  There are a few flaws in his methods I guess but it gives some basic information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BGVbwBFips

Seems as though he did not try , adjust etc. with the 6000 , as much as he did with the 7000 ?

But was worth watching .

Well $6,000 would get me close to a truck to get me near gold fields [ 94-98 Dodge Ram 5.9 Cummins ] then after getting a truck to take get me close to gold , use my Equinox 800 to find some gold to pay for the 6000 .

Most people call it a fixed income , I call it a broken income --- detecting helps to fix the broken income 😉