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Make sure tracking GB is turned off. My 800 was acting up for months before I noticed that I had left tracking on. Now it runs perfectly quiet.

Does anyone know why First Texas discontinued the CZ line?

For some reason they kept making the CZ21 underwater detector and archaic CZ3D but completely abandoned what could have been a cutting edge line of land/beach/water machines that could still be going strong today.

I bought my CZ20 with 8 inch coil in 1998 with plans to get into water hunting and possibly diving. That idea never took off but I ended up using it on the wet sand for 15 years with great results before getting a Minelab Explorer SE. While the CZ20 performed great on the wet sand, it wasn't designed to be used out of the water. When FT took over, I expected to see a whole new line of CZs for land, beach, and water but it never happened.

The CZ multi-frequency technology is as high performance as anything out there today.

My ultimate CZ beach machine would be very simple. 

No screen. Just multi-tone ID.

No speaker.

Ultralight and well balanced.

Accessories not included.

Affordable.

I would choose that over a Manticore any day.

Why would they waste their time experimenting with the Impulse AQ when they had the CZ technology all along?

The answer to your question is No. You will never be able to tell the difference between gold and aluminum by sound. No one can walk away from a pulltab and be sure it's not gold.

I use F2 at 0 whenever possible.  That gives non-ferrous the best chance of IDing correctly. The drawback is that ferrous will be more likely to ID as non-ferrous.

I love the DP feature. 

I wish Minelab would stop forcing us to buy accessories that we don't want. 

Lots of bat grip choices on Amazon.  Thanks for the tip.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bat+grip&i=sporting&crid=NNV5LHCSSOK&sprefix=bat+grip%2Csporting%2C103&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_8

What did you wrap the grip with?  It looks like a good way to protect it from discoloration.  The grip on my 800 looks ugly after two years of use.

15 hours ago, Troy E said:

No, I’m not positive, my buddy I hunt with said that’s what it looked like.

here’s a few pictures, let me know your thoughts. Thanks 

Well I'm certainly no authority on Minie Balls. I see no evidence of a conical base but it is pretty mangled. The caliber might be too small. Plus, most dug Minie Balls are white from being in the ground for well over a century.

Maybe one of the bullet experts out there can chime in.

Are you positive that's a Minie Ball?  It's hard to tell from the photo but it looks too small to be a Minie. Take another photo next to a coin.

It's always nice to dig a Merc.  👍

47 minutes ago, phrunt said:

They may for all I know, not something I'd be doing in the dark too often with the little nuggets around here, it'd be a challenge to find them 😉

 

I've never nugget hunted but what I would do is, once I have the target in a handful of dirt, simply toss the dirt into my bag and pick out the nuggets after I get home. I have done that coin/relic hunting and it saves a lot of time.

I didn't know that nugget hunters generally don't hunt at night. Thanks for the insight.  👍

On 12/6/2022 at 3:08 AM, phrunt said:

a Red back-light won't change your life at all, I wonder how colour blind people go with a red back-light 😛 

A red backlight makes a huge difference when hunting at night because it allows you to see your surroundings a lot better. It also helps you to see what you are digging.

Interesting point on color blind people. I would assume that a red light would help them see better at night as well. They just wouldn't see the color red the same as normal sighted people.

I epoxied my ears back and added a Detecting Adventure coil support and have had no problems since.  https://www.amazon.com/Detecting-Adventure-Support-Minelab-Detector/dp/B0B7K9VXFN?th=1

4 hours ago, DSMITH said:

I thought all the F pulse pin pointers have three different volume setting

thanks for the reply

Looking through the manual (assuming there is only one), there is no mention of volume adjustment.  http://www.fisherlab.com/hobby/manuals/MPPFXP-FPulse.pdf

High Sensitivity may appear to sound louder but that's only because the signal is more intense.

 My F-Pulse doesn't have any volume adjustment although sometimes I wish it did. Mine is plenty loud enough to hear while wearing headphones and can be heard over 100 feet away without headphones in quiet conditions. I can feel the vibration through thick gloves pretty well.

15 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

No, what I meant was a dry land gold prospecting detector would likely not be submersible, and only good for no more than wading. Of course it would work on the dry beach also, if it would work wading in the water at that same beach.

If the Impulse Gold can perform on the wet sand as well as the AQ, that sounds perfect. That's what I wanted all along. Waterproofing just adds to the cost and complicates production. Making the AQ LTD waterproof is part of the reason why the project failed.

The decision to include waterproof headphones that many beach hunters will not want or need was also a mistake.

The main thing they should be focusing on is the cutting edge performance as well as making the unit lightweight, easy to use, and affordable.

But, if the Impulse Gold cannot equal or surpass the AQ in the wet salt sand, I don't want it.

3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

The AQ has ground balance preset to act as a sort of discrimination control, so you have preset ground balance. That makes it pretty useless in hot rocks especially. I thought I could make it work in milder Nevada soils, and it was a total no go. The Gold model will have an adjustable ground balance as the most important factor. The good news there is it should also still work at the beach, though maybe only for wading. For me it was always the preferred option, a PI that could be used anywhere, as opposed to one that can only be used at the beach.

Only for wading?  Would it not work well on the wet sand or do you mean that it can't be submerged? 

I don't need it to be waterproof. I'm not a water hunter. There's no need to get wet with 10 foot tides.

How would the Impulse Gold differ from the LTD for detecting wet salt sand at the beach?

The coil ears in Steves photo look identical to the F-75 ears. 

My F-75 came with a note from Fisher saying that the ears may break if their special red washers are not used. I ignored the warning and one of my ears broke soon after. That was about eight years ago and they are still making coils with the same thin flimsy ears. It's just another blunder by Fisher that the design flaw wasn't corrected immediately.

Handy video to have if you lose your paper version.

My F-Pulse started having problems right after the warranty ran out. Difficult to turn on/off. Often won't stop beeping. I still like it though and think it's the best pinpointer out there. Twice the depth of all the others.

20 hours ago, mh9162013 said:

Maybe they produced this when the updated F-Pulse got released?

They just put it on YouTube three days ago. That would be a very long delay.

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1 hour ago, phrunt said:

As for Serious Detecting selling the 11" T2 coil for $14900 perhaps they were a little confused, they probably thought the reason nobody wanted to use that coil was as they loved it so much, treasured it, made it a collectable and assumed because of this it was a high value collectable item.  It may not have occurred to them the reason people don't use that coil is because it is rubbish?

My guess is that they meant for the price to be $149.00 and didn't notice the mistake. 

FT had to know the coil was rubbish from the very beginning but they kept on producing it. If I owned the company, flaws like that would drive me nuts. I would have the problem corrected asap.

52 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

If you don’t want packages call and make cash offer for detector only. I’d do business with Ewout (owner at Serious) any day. Met him at a Minelab dealer meeting years ago, really good guy, smart as a whip.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/eakozel

Good to know Steve. Thanks.  It's always nice to get insider info and I trust your opinion. I take back what I said about Serious.

1 hour ago, GB_Amateur said:

But they can't advertise $50 off for detector only if the detector is already offered at the MAP price.  They can (and apparently do) offer a package for the detector only MAP price.  And they also can sell at lower than MAP price if you contact them and negotiate privately.  Whether Serious Detecting negotiates, though, I don't know.

Yup, that came to me after I posted. There is a limit to how low they can advertise.

I personally don't like calling vendors to negotiate a price but I suppose email would work just as well. It's just time consuming. It will probably be a while before I buy another machine. There aren't many places worth detecting anymore. The land sites are all hunted out and the beaches have been sanded in for years.

39 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

You might want to look more closely before taking a swipe at them.  Serious Detecting actually offers detectors in many packages, including just the detector itself.  (I didn't list the T2 at $486 since it was sold out.)  E.g. Equinox 800 for $899, Makro Legend for $549.  Sometimes simultaneously you can get a package for same (or even lower) price as the bare model.  That's the case for the Eqx 800 and Eqx 600 currently.

You're right. I see that now. I stand corrected. I just don't want the package. If they can offer a package for the same price as a bare detector, they can easily afford to drop $50 off the package price if they keep the package.