Lost Scout

22 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

From https://cornellpubs.com/manufacturer/hubley-toy/

"Hubley — Founded by John Hubley in about 1894 in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, the Hubley Manufacturing Company made cast iron toys. Its earliest products were trains and trolleys powered by live steam, electricity, or spring mechanisms. Hubley produced stoves and still banks beginning in 1909. It later added horse-drawn fire and circus wagons, cap pistols, trucks, cars, motorcycles, and, in the 1920s, dollhouse kitchen appliances. By 1940 Hubley had become the world’s largest manufacturer of cast-iron toys. Increasing freight charges and foreign competition made the company switch to die-cast toys of a zinc alloy. Hubley was acquired by Gabriel Industries in 1965 and now produces die-cast zinc and plastic toys as well as hobby kits."

Photo of a similar model for sale here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256318411250

 

That's it. I can only imagine the kid running around after bad guys with it. And the disappointment when he lost it in irrigation ditch.

Hoping you have a great time. Gold will be an amazing bonus.

21 minutes ago, blackjack said:

Good find Erik, hard to top that here in Australia, my oldest piece that can be dated is pieces of sheet lead from a whaling station that stopped working in the late 1830's, I also found a brass button and canvas eyelet at the same site. There is a lot of pieces of sheet lead at this site, can anyone tell me what it was used for ? As far as an undatable relic, it's a cutting or scraping tool, knapped from a piece of hard shiny jet black rock, I'm usure what mineral. I found it in the Weld river valley here in southern Tasmania. This was the route that the local first nations people used to access the west coast in summer. Maybe 40,000 years old ?

Shiny and jet black. If you were in the western US is say obsidian. It has a conchoidal fracture, glass like and used to make arrow heads.

Wasn't sheet lead used to cover the bows of ships?

6 minutes ago, Az_Ed said:

I'm volunteering with an archaeology search in the southwest.  I've detected numerous artifacts from the 1539-1542 Franciso Vazquez de Coronado expeditions.  It is most interesting to work with an Archaeologist and see how they carefully document each and every artifact found, no matter how small.  Without professional qualified recording, the meaning, understanding, context and significance of the artifacts is lost to the world forever.  Helping with with this effort has really opened my eyes to the ramifications and consequences of metal detector artifact and relic hunting.

That is so cool. I'm in a area where I get excited to find a cap gun from the 1950's. Would love to detect an area with older artifacts.

In a last ditch effort to find something cool today I went out into my pasture this evening. I found a gun. Judging by the barrel the kid used too many caps at once. 😱😂

Finally got back to the race track. Using the Ava tree torus speakers now. My busy season is starting and the grass is growing. Figured it may be my last chance at this site for a while. Spent about one and half hours before the owner got home and asked that we leave since they were having a bunch of people over. Of course, it's your property.So that shut that down for now. Possible that I can go across the fence and detect a small area there. Need to get a hold of the owners and ok a time. 

nothing good found today. I post this to show that some days are fun but you only find trash.😕

2 hours ago, PhaseTech said:

Can you please email me, as I'd like to try one of these on the E1500 detector. nenad@phasetechnical.com.au 

Maybe this will help if Wiggins isn't on here often.

Welcome aboard and go for it.

Haven't used the minelab but Docs works great.

13 minutes ago, Lost Scout said:

Wow! I just received my torus nbo5t in the mail today. I can hear! With my Equinox 800 I heard music with all the tones it has. Now I hear a symphony! The sound quality is amazing over the stock headphones. I played around in my yard, that I've gone over about twenty times, and heard so much more. I used both the speaker and the ear buds. The buds are great in wind. Then I plugged into my gpx 4500 with an adapter. Previously I could not run this machine here because of the emi. I cranked the sensitivity down to 3 and the gain down to 2 to stabilize it. And I could still pick up signals at some depth. I only screwed around with this one for maybe twenty minutes in my pasture where there aren't a lot of signals. Super impressed with what I could find with the way I had to run the detector on such low settings.

The penny I should have found before. The pencil extender and eraser clamp was a very complex sound. On the 4500 I was amazed at the depth with such low settings, a horseshoe nail, 22 short, Lead shot, a 22 bullet and and a square nail. The items them selves weren't important. It was finding them.

The audio on both speaker and buds was great. With the 4500 I needed to use the buds. I'll have to play around with that. 

Thanks for the product.

Forgot to add the others.

Wow! I just received my torus nbo5t in the mail today. I can hear! With my Equinox 800 I heard music with all the tones it has. Now I hear a symphony! The sound quality is amazing over the stock headphones. I played around in my yard, that I've gone over about twenty times, and heard so much more. I used both the speaker and the ear buds. The buds are great in wind. Then I plugged into my gpx 4500 with an adapter. Previously I could not run this machine here because of the emi. I cranked the sensitivity down to 3 and the gain down to 2 to stabilize it. And I could still pick up signals at some depth. I only screwed around with this one for maybe twenty minutes in my pasture where there aren't a lot of signals. Super impressed with what I could find with the way I had to run the detector on such low settings.

The penny I should have found before. The pencil extender and eraser clamp was a very complex sound. On the 4500 I was amazed at the depth with such low settings, a horseshoe nail, 22 short, Lead shot, a 22 bullet and and a square nail. The items them selves weren't important. It was finding them.

The audio on both speaker and buds was great. With the 4500 I needed to use the buds. I'll have to play around with that. 

Thanks for the product.

Waiting for new headphones to arrive so I went back to searching my yard wired. The flimsy wire provided with the minelab nox head phones is less than desirable. But I hit the yard running park II for something different. And found this super old Davey Crockett ring, except for the plastic... Found an image of another one, it's from the 1950's. I think it's cool. I would have have worn it when I was ten.

Really surprised that none of you know that GF in a ring means "Gold Finger". 🤪

5 hours ago, Skate said:

You are wise to share your finds with the owners. You reap what you sow and more than what you sow.

Good on you. 

I just wanted to detect the site. Offered the owners any of my finds and suggested that anything of note be donated to the historical society.

On 4/9/2024 at 8:21 PM, Lost Scout said:

Had to go to Boise today so picked up a pair of JLab studio pros on sale. I'll compare with the minelab sound quality.

Well. I screwed that up. The jlabs I bought are nice but not low latency. The other brand I was looking at were and somewhere I lost track of features. I tried the jlabs but the signal response was SLOW. Looked at your link and did some other searches. Ordered the Avantree torus NB05T last night. They will give options for different styles of use.

I'll have to wait before I get back to the race track. Even wired the minelab headphones now only work on one side.

3 hours ago, rvpopeye said:

Nice ! An old abandoned horse race location . 

( I live on one but this one was never abandoned.) 

  I recognized the storm window lock (top right in junk photos.) 

The horseshoe was a sign of good luck. 🥸

I predict a lot of silver.....🤔

 

Storm lock... That looks right now that you point it out, but there was never an old house there. Maybe for a trunk or....

6 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

If you want a great cheap pair of headphones, check these out:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08QRQMLVY

Right now they are $34. They are great when it gets warmer, very loud for on - ear headphones. Been using them for a long time with my Equinox.

Had to go to Boise today so picked up a pair of JLab studio pros on sale. I'll compare with the minelab sound quality.

18 hours ago, RickUK said:

Some tremendous finds and that permission certainly has more potential from that race track,when detecting here in the UK i often look out for 'church spires' and if 2 are within sight i will detect between them as those are often prime locations for finds that have been dropped from horse racing....that is how 'Steeple Chase' got its name from.

I never knew that. Cool.

Just now, Lost Scout said:

The start/finish line was between the old tree a newer house. The next house appears to built right on the track. Everything behind is a working ranch. My wife and I will go back with different coils and time but rain in the forecast today. The fence through the tree is a property line which is pain but the equinox can get real close. The highway is to close and at the end of day EMI from some cars going by was getting worse. Have hopes for some good finds. The picnic area should be across the  highway (or under it😥). I need to work on that permission.

And I need new head phones. Mine has stoped pairing with the detector so I had to use the wired up method. 

Some of the descendants of the old families are now excited to see what we find.

Forgot to add that we are digging most all of the signals knowing that a lot of wire and nails will come up but don't want to miss horse tack etc.

The start/finish line was between the old tree a newer house. The next house appears to built right on the track. Everything behind is a working ranch. My wife and I will go back with different coils and time but rain in the forecast today. The fence through the tree is a property line which is pain but the equinox can get real close. The highway is to close and at the end of day EMI from some cars going by was getting worse. Have hopes for some good finds. The picnic area should be across the  highway (or under it😥). I need to work on that permission.

And I need new head phones. Mine has stoped pairing with the detector so I had to use the wired up method. 

Some of the descendants of the old families are now excited to see what we find.

I was able to secure two out of three permissions that I want today. And I was able to spend about an hour and a half detecting around the tree that was at the start/finish line of the horse race track that I've been researching. The very first thing that set the equinox off was a horseshoe! Perfect. The owners wife asked if we found one she would like it. And it was my first target! Lots iron trash. Wire, nails etc. We did find a few square nails. 22 short rifle cases. One .32 s&w case AND a .45 cal muzzleloader ball that has a jag hole from being pulled out of the rifle. One overalls button and a Levi Strauss rivet made sometime after 1890. Broken harness buckle and a tag that reads James Farmer Bliss Ida. And of course a few dodads that I can't identify. 

Off to a good start.

I'm ninety percent sure I know where the start/ finish line is. I talked to a retired co worker. He grew up here. Didn't know about the track but he did know where the " old Campbell House" was. Still standing, drive by it all the time. He remembers the highway being adjusted/moved. When I showed him the picture of the race he agreed with me that it's gotta be the dead one still standing with no top in it. Parking on the side of the road I can line up the hill in the background just right.

So ... Now there are two houses. All that pasture and they built there. The track is between the tree and their front door. I'll ask on Sunday if I can detect around the tree. Fingers crossed.

1 hour ago, Dug D said:

1911 map doesn't show a track, but I see a church location that might be worth checking out. 

You may be looking at the cemetery symbol to the north. There was a church next to the old school but it burnt down. Both on private ground . Haven't tried to chase those down yet.

I found a series of videos from 2004. Interviews with some old timers now gone. One of them talked about the track and said you used to able to see the outline in field. Mostly what I get is " my grandpa said the track was in or next to the grove of trees". The trees have died or been cut and aren't there anymore. I know about where but now need to track down permissions.

17 minutes ago, Digalicious said:

Any chance of narrowing down the location by that hill in the background?

Not just from the hill itself, but the two cuts just above the two riders, as well as the hill that cuts in from the right and crosses those two hill lines.

Yea. Just don't know the orientation of the track. Normally you would race turning to the left. The picture shows the riders coming in going north west. That would mean the track is across the highway from me. If they are going the other way then the bottom of the track is on my property. Can't tell from Historical Arieals ( most recent is 1936 ) or Google Earth. Irrigation and road changes have wiped out the diffinition. A few new houses have gone in but still a lot of pasture. I have the names of some of the descendants and I'm going to try and track them down but no one is answering the phone tonight. If I took a picture today the back ground would look the same but all of the big trees on the flat are gone.

It's been raining all day. Didn't mean to but have spent about eight hours online and at the local library. I really appreciate anyone's and everyone's ideas but this is a very rural area and didn't have a full time resident until the 1880's. 

I have found out that a news paper was started here in 1905. The railroad came in and stopped a couple miles to the west in 1912. This caused most of the population to move. A clipping from another gost town in 1895 states that a race track was just completed in Meadows. All of two sentences. Then I found a book with two pictures of the crowd at the track but no good land marks or reference points. The old Ponderosa pines are all gone. 

But you can see the stands to the right. And the nature of the racing, no surrey's and how temporary it was.

Back to tracking down old timers. I know about where but different land owners on each side of the road that may have changed locations. One land owner lives in South Africa...sigh...

But I'm still trying.