Cheddar

only scanned the replies, didnt read them in depth.

i personally use full tones -6.4 discrim. whether my theories are accurate or not? who knows!

i like to think it gives the machine better performance because it is not trying to figure out if it should be iron or not (probably not true, but let me believe it)

also, it gives you all the information you can get out of the machine. which to me, is important. i want to make the decisions of whether or not i dig a target, not let the machine decide for me. i want as many clues as i can get, and having the entire range of audio gives me that.

now that being said, i hunt some sites that have iron under every sq inch of the dirt. sometimes i actually use relic with IAR and notch out everything (within a few #'s) that i am looking for.

so my answer to your question is yes. its worth it, but obviously depends on where and when you want to use it.

high square full tones. even if pwm is better, i just cant listen to a duck all day.

audio filter 2 

offset FT +15 to get a good chirp on them silvers.

11 hours ago, Tomek said:

I have the same issue with diving shaft. Im super disappointed with it. I wonder if they proper tested it for diving cause if they did they would never release crap like that. There is no air pocket anywhere in the shaft, the coil itself is the problem. I use 11 inch and it's positively buoyant. The diving shaft is fully made of plastic so it's also much lighter than standard one. Dive shaft is floating coil up and arm cuff down. Putting any weight inside handle doesn't work. Weight must be placed at the end of shaft near the coil. I don't have any idea what to use and how to attach it. Can't use any kind of metal obviously, any ideas?

now that you mention it, yes it does float coil up. im using the 9" coil. havent been diving since i made that post so i havent tried anything yet.

my idea was to fill up the actual shaft (by taking off the remote mount) with small pebbles.

i run dive program with low reactivity. i also keep it in 14khz but assume bumping it to 24khz would work too

15 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

What detector did you adapt them to? They might not be a good ohm match. The blue phones have a two pin connector and so only use the two wires.

deus2 using the 6 pin connector.

and also straight to a 3.5mm jack which ive tested with other devices. volume seems to peak out at the same for all devices. which is loud but not loud enough under water.

I bought these to wire with another machine. Has anyone spliced these?

It has an extra black wire which I assume is just from a general audio wire they used which is probably microphone, so it would have no use. (unless im wrong)

Anyways, when I wire these into a 3.5mm jack they are really not loud at all. Any advice for getting them really loud? Thanks

13 hours ago, Tom Slick said:

Just drill a small 1/8" hole in the top of the rod near the controller clip to let the air escape.. 

im not 100% sure if that is what is making it float up. was hoping someone else had the same experience and had resolved it.

24 minutes ago, UKD2User said:

I think you've got to be careful what you wish for - I'd be much happier for mine to float to the surface if I lost control of it.

when you are digging with one hand and pinpointing with the other. and your shaft wants to detect your head, it gets pretty annoying. i am connected via headphone wire so i am not too concerned about losing control

this thing is floating up over my head while im diving. assume its the air pocket within the handle.

anyone have this issue and dealt with it?

there are many ways to add weight to it i suppose to keep it from floating. im thinking of adding some weight to the hollow handle and sealing it off.

looks $ if it helps protect from rocks, keep sand out, and glide through the water.

any info on where to get one?

2 hours ago, Rattlehead said:

I went back to .71 and will likely stay there. I'm just not a fan of the new TID scale. Spent a year and a half getting familiar with how the D2 TID was normalized between programs and learning where/how everything reads, so having to start all over again just wasn't appealing to me.

what specifically? i did notice they brought the scale down a little on higher conductors which is a good thing. before the update, quarters and halves were about the same. now halves are 2 or 3 numbers higher.

has anyone noticed that the TID's for high conductive coins seems to have gone down

at least how i run in 24khz max. zinc was 86-87, dimes 92-93, quarters were 95-96 and halves were 96-97

now it seems like zinc is 82ish, dime 90ish, quarter 93, half 96

this is good news if this is indeed the case. but these are just limited air tests. havent had time in the field yet.

ive found my 13" coil is much more susceptible to EMI. i cant run it in the dirt above 85 sens. i can run my 9" coil to 94 or 95 sens in the same situations.

luckily even with 85 sens it still goes as deep / deeper than the 9" and has way more coverage.

same thing, round for me. i noticed that the lower rod they send with the 13" coil says CF which i think means its carbon fiber infused. it is stronger than the lower rod that came with the 9" coil.

are you using the stock rod? or the nokta carbon? i have yet to have any issues with either of the lower rods (stock and nokta). if yours is loosening with the nokta one maybe you need to add/modify something to give the spacer more/even pressure

i max my pitch on my highest break for every program, it really pierces your ears and catches your attention.

i think its weird that on full tones a 99 isnt even close to the 993hz 

On 3/21/2023 at 8:21 PM, CPT_GhostLight said:

That's interesting, Cheddar, has that caused any problems with the 13" coil, like the bolt loosening or anything like that?

When I installed the CF lower shaft hack on my D2 shaft, I noticed it had just round holes too, but my 9" coil holds firm with no propblems at all, but it does have a firm grip on the bolt head, so I guess that's all it needs.

I wonder if any other 13" coil owners have noticed any problems with their coils bolts?

no issues with performance. looking at all the photos i could find online it looks to be just how they make them.

makes you wonder why they make them differently than the other coils?

finally set up my own nokta CF lower shaft

it was a bit chattery in the field so i ran my pinpointer down just the shaft and sure enough it was hitting on almost the whole shaft. i assume because of the carbon in the shaft it makes it pretty conductive.

i think it was a coincidence as the other shaft was just as chattery, but the stock shaft didnt trigger my pin pointer.

how you like that phoenix shovel? thinking about getting something new. been running a lesche 31" t-handle for as long as ive been detecting

i have been eyeing the mi4 for a while now coming from a garret carrot. isnt the mi6 bigger and the only difference is it connects to your deus audio?

i only use vibrate mode as i think that is far superior to listening to the audio. so i have no idea why someone would want to listen to the annoying hiss of a pin pointer in their headphones!

it really depends on what kind of ground you're working. if its normal beach where you are looking for fresh drops or have no idea whats low. then definitely the 13"

if you know you're on a low beach or in a highly concentrated spot, then the 9" hands down.

if you can only have one coil ever? probably the 11". but 9" and 13" are what i run, depends on what kind of mission i am on

ive been swinging the 13" coil on the beach with no problems, it actually responds and acts very similar to the 9" coil. 

i noticed that the coil ears on the 13" do not have the notch pattern that doesnt allow that plastic spacer to spin (its just fully round)... my 9" coil does have the notch pattern so it cant spin.

also noticed the left side of the 13" coil BARELY has the slats to hold the bolt head in place. where as the 9" has a great bolt head holder.

not sure if these are by design or just poor quality control?

you should give beach sensitive a try. adjust the salt sens to get rid of the mineral chatter

the level of dirt he has on his machines is cringe

19 hours ago, TJ Jeepguy said:

I’m guilty of setting filter settings of programs to their zero point with the thought that the filters may hide a target, but I may need to start letting the machine do a little more work now and then😀

that's nonsense. the filters are fine for beginners and people that dont have much field time on the machines. and maybe someone that has limited time so they need to be selective on targets.

but once you've got some hours and know what you are doing, your brain works better than any machine out there. i almost always run filters down at 0 and let me ears do the work

yes the aptx-ll transmitter and aptx-ll headphones/earbuds will work

but you'll be getting a tiny bit of latency from the deus2 itself. and then another 40-50ms latency from the aptx-ll. it will work but not optimal.

in the winter i use the adapter and velcro the puck onto my favorite pair of over-the-ear headphones with the 3.5mm cord connecting them.

in the summer i run the puck in my pocket and just run ear bud wire up under my shirt. 

before i got the deus2 i felt how you felt about it and really wanted to do it the way i was doing it with my nox. but after running it this way for almost a year now, theres no going back.