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Got the same email. A little misleading, 79.99 ain't free. Huh ?😏

4 hours ago, stateguy said:

Are they coming out with a new machine. Or are they not selling. 

IMO The Legend is seriously cutting into their market share.

On 3/28/2024 at 11:24 AM, Jeff McClendon said:

It hasn't peaked yet from what I am seeing from the Manticore and Deus 2 compared to late 1990s and since the Equinox in 2018. Most of the people saying it's peaked haven't been able to use this newer tech.

So Jeff, tell us folks that aren't able to use this newer tech, where, in your opinion can it go ? You already have way over powered machines that in most cases can't be cranked up past two thirds. EMI mitigation and unmasking ability is top notch so what else could SMF do ? Better target ID, maybe. So far I haven't seen it. Maybe you're right, maybe they will squeeze more out of SMF. IMO there is a newer tech coming.

On 3/28/2024 at 10:47 AM, Geotech said:

SMF is either 23 or 33 years old, depending on your definition of SMF. And I would not be so sure it's peaked.

I hope you're right. Any ideas where else it could go ? I seem to remember reading that the Equinox was the first to run SMF, not to be confused with FBS/FBS2. But then again you can't believe everything you read I guess.

17 hours ago, Muddydogz said:

For me, it doesn't have to outdo the eq, legend just be competitive with them, i'd love to spend my money here in the states. I think garrett has great build quality, just a little lacking in the tech side. I had an apex and liked it but it just didn't perform for me on grass like the other mentioned machines. I don't beach hunt so that's not on my list of wants , give me and apex package with the eq performance and i'll be first in line.

The way I see it SMF is 6 year old technology and most agree  that its peaked. To throw just another SMF machine in the ring this late would not make sense. No it needs to something special and I hope it will be. I will buy one. Mark

On 3/20/2024 at 6:13 PM, GB_Amateur said:

Or did someone hunt it decades ago but ignored nickels, not wanting to dig beavertails?  Note I found more nickels than imposters (five folded-over beavertails, a couple pencil ferrules, and a misc. scrap of aluminum).  The shotgun butt

GB, funny you say that. I often thought the same.  In the old parks I hunt an older nickel is the most common coin I find and without a doubt a 64 is the most common date. I like digging nickels, I'll dig them all day long. And my new thing now is searching for a Henning nickel. Since getting the Equinox in 2018 is when I really started pounding on the nickels and I often wonder of all those tumbled, rolled and turned in did I miss one. Henning nickels for those who don't know were counterfeit nickels with dates 1939, 44, 46, 47, 53. There was rumored to be a sixth die but never confirmed. For me it adds another layer of interest in the hobby.

Congrats on the silver score and other cool finds as well. Good to see you are enjoying the Manticore. Continued success. Mark

NO !

So, Chase and F-350. I bought the bone-conductors. Within seconds they paired up to the Legend. They work great but could be a little louder. Funny thing, I tried to pair them to my 800. I do as Chase suggested using the Bluetooth button. I hold it in till I hear the bee-boop then wait another 15 seconds  for it to go into pairing mode. Anyway in about 30 sec.or so the headphone icon shows connected on the screen but the bone-conductors are still flashing red/blue. I wave a coin over the coil and I hear the familiar penny signal coming from the other room. The 800 paired to the sound bar on my TV. Haha. I had that happen once before, back in the spring of 2018 I was standing on a sidewalk in front of the house I was about to hunt but couldn't seem to pair the ML80s. As the coil moved I could hear a signal coming from inside the house. Probably on that guys home theatre. I remember thinking strange, also remember the manual stating the 800 you could connect up to 4 Bluetooth device's at once, (An option not available on the 900) so why didn't my ML80s pair also. Meant to look into that, never did. Forgot about it till this recent episode. Another thing, not sure how well this is known but if, once you have a device paired to the 800, you shut them down first (headphones/earbuds ) then the 800, reverse the procedure for starting up, headphones first the headphones will pair up right away. Contrary to how the manual states if I remember correctly. Seems you had to fiddle around doing it that way. Anyway thanks for the tip on the bone-conductors  F-350 and good luck to you and Chase. You guys are tearing it up down there. Mark

F350 thanks for the link. I lost the bone conductors I had last year so will give these ones a try. I hope they pair with the legend. I had a pair of headphones that would not. Mark

Well done guy. Congrats. A once in a lifetime find. I did dig a 1909 VDB a 1909 Ihp on one hunt in an old park, unfortunately no S mintmark on either. Good to see you're enjoying the Manticore. Good luck. Mark

3 hours ago, CliveHamy said:

I thought I had a coil problem recently, so I did a factory reset on my NOX 800. Anyone know, does it take it back to the oldest software version that it was originally shipped with, or does it go back to the latest current software version that I had downloaded?  

It would be nice not to dig out the old computer I used to download the latest version again.

Cheers Clive

A factory reset does not revert the software, only the settings. Mark

On 1/15/2024 at 4:39 PM, jjsharpshooter said:

Hello everyone, new member here from Western Pennsylvania just saying hello. Been a lurker off and on for awhile and decided to join. Currently using an XP Deus 2 since March 2022 and before that an Equinox 800 which my wife sometimes uses. Haven't detected much this past year due to other projects, etc. but hope to remedy that this year. Today I noticed I didn't even have the Deus 2 updated to the most current program that's been out since September. Updated today, detector charged, and waiting for the ground to thaw out. Thanks in advance for all the great info and tips I'm sure I'll read on the forums. John "JJ" Smith aka jjsharpshooter.

Welcome and good hunting from Pittsburgh JJ .

7 hours ago, Zaj56 said:

Wouldn't it just be a better option to use  the BT  transmitter plugged into the detector and use wireless stuff? Using wired stuff  plugged into a WM-09 isn't wireless imo. Or is there latency issues with the transmitters?

Zaj56 I agree, having to plug in to the module IMO is not really wireless. In your case with hearing aids I would think a transmitter would be my first try. I notice no lag with the headphones, earbuds and now lost bone conductors I have used with the 900. I guess the only way to know if there is a latency issue with your hearing aids is to give them a try. They are easily returned if you get them on Ama--n Most use the Mii, I prefer Trond. As far as recharging, for me its remembering to charge the transmitter after I top off the 900 and headphones. Would be the same case, the WM09 would also need to be recharged. Hope you get it worked out. Mark

33 minutes ago, Zaj56 said:

I  hope so Stephen but if Minelab makes it proprietary(and they do) there isn't much the HA companies can do.

Its bad enough for the average Md'r but a double whammy for guys who use hearing aids. Not sure if I ask you this before, what part of SW Pa are you located / Do you ever get up to hunt the old parks in Pittsburgh ?

5 hours ago, stephent said:

Is there a trick to pairing Bluetooth devices other than the Minelab headphones, or is the 700 only compatible with them? I have the Oticon More hearing aids which have the latest BT technology, and they are compatible with all kinds of phones, laptops, tablets, etc. yet they don't seem to pair with the 700. At least by using the wireless pairing button. Thank you.

Stephen

Zaj56 is correct. The wireless audio signal is proprietary for the Manticore, 900/700 and Xterra Pro. This has been a bone of contention with many Minelab users, myself included.

F350 Congrats on the rare old state half penny, token, cool baseball medal and the other relics. The soil could've been a little nicer to such a fine old coin. The baseball medal is the first one I've seen posted. When I first started Md'ing I found the same one in my neighbors yard , a 40s build with an AT Pro. Like you I never found any info on it but I love it and still have it on display. Yours has more detail than the one I found. Have to say a little jelly of all the old hunting ground you have right outside your front door. lol Good luck in the new year. Mark

Welcome to the hobby. Buy once, cry once.  I say Legend. And don't forget the price is going up after the 1st of the year. The ferrocheck works really well on the Legend to about 6 inches or so. I agree you don't need all the extra settings right now but as you progress in the hobby you will come to appreciate the versatility it offers as opposed to looking to upgrade if you would go with the Double Score. The Legend is pretty much a turn on and go detector so I don't think there would be much difference between learning either machine. Good luck. Mark

Not without using a transmitter. With one you have the option of using most Bluetooth devices. Although it can be a PIA a it beat wearing headphones in hot weather. Good luck. Mark

I suggested an adjustable cam lock on the midshaft. I bought a new version the end of Sept. and the wobble and creaking and even flexing in and out of the mid shaft was very apparent. I contacted Nokta and was told the problem was with the lower shaft. Which they quickly replaced. The replacements finish did not match the original,  The replacement was somewhat better but still has a little flex to it. These days My Legend wears the LG24 so movement is almost unnoticeable but I have to remind myself not to use it as a cane when trying to get up. lol  Other than that I will say I really enjoy using the machine.

11 hours ago, Guinea1 said:

I feel the age of the Swiss army knife detector is already upon us.   Nowadays, nearly every high-end detector on the market is feature rich with little real comparison between them all.  What I would like to see is modular metal detector created by a manufacturer like Nokta, where you can buy plugin upgrades which change the machine into a higher preforming detector without having to purchase a completely new unit.  Something similar to the old modular Treasure Baron units designed by George Payne.

Imagine just needing a few coils and plugin upgrades to access a wide choice of frequencies and features without having to own multiple detectors for different styles of hunting?  I suppose a sort of green orientated metal detector that utilises resources to the fullest capacity possible.  I also feel detector manufacturers need to make swapping out the built-in battery a simplified process.  So that the purchaser of the metal detector can fit the new battery themselves, similar to the new procedures suggested for mobile phone batteries. 

I think Nokta are a very innovative company who aren’t afraid to push boundaries.  And I feel if any of the metal detector manufacturers out there can bring us something totally unique to the market similar to what I have suggested, then it is Nokta who have the skills and knowhow to make such a concept a reality.  I also believe Nokta deserve more accolade for producing affordable metal detectors, which places high-end detecting technology into the hands of more detectorists at an affordable price.  The Nokta Legend epitomises their promise of not accepting paying more for less!   

Maybe a little off topic but as far as plug ins go I often wondered why Nokta hasn't offered plug in diagnostics. It would save time and money knowing just what the issue is and perhaps being able to rectify it without having to ship it. Minelab it too tightassed to get the stick out, hell you can't hardly get an update out of them. But Nokta on the other hand puts the customers concerns and needs in the forefront. Something most business models are sorely lacking these days. Not sure if it would be possible but in my mind if they can patch you an upgrade via computer then diagnosing issues with your unit should not be all that hard. Just thinking out loud.

6 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

SMH...

Sometimes I just don't get what these manufacturers are trying to accomplish with these youtube personality alliances as they are very polarizing.  But I guess they subscribe to the notion that any publicity is good publicity because the channel haters seem to tune in as much as the channel fans.

This guy is definitely not my cup of tea.  But frankly, I find most metal detecting you tube channels and videos to be extremely tedious and boring except for Gary's specifically and a few other folks I know personally. I'd rather be doing than watching.

You sir are a gentleman, putting it mildly, "not my cup of tea". I flat out can't stomach the guy. With all his clickbait and shenanigans I would rather watch reruns of Oak Island before I would give him one more click/view. That crap he pulled with Minelab was not about the truth, just him and drumming up views. In a way, not a bad strategy, putting the village idiot out front, as they say publicity, good or bad is still publicity. Sorry for the rant but that guy strikes a nerve with me.

On 11/25/2023 at 3:22 PM, Jeff McClendon said:

Hey, at least XP didn't pick a YouTuber from middle TN.

 

Merril has taken a ton of shots at Minelab so it does kind of make sense. It won't make me watch his channel however unless Gary B is featured on it.

What happened from the guy from South Carolina, I though the was the main stain for XP.

7 hours ago, phrunt said:

it's great Minelab listened and provided this option, but if they didn't lock down the Bluetooth in the first place nobody would need it so they don't really deserve a pat on the back for it, all they've done is provided another very overpriced object many people will need to buy to be satisfied with their very expensive detector.

Simon, agree, this is a mess of their own making. you will still need to plug your headphones or earbuds into he WMO9 correct ? Although not tethered to the detector you still have to mess with wires as opposed to just pairing headphones and on you go. So maybe half wireless. Ha ha. I was one of those who whined about the proprietary headphones but quite honestly I haven't seen enough from the 900 to invest another nickel in it.  I bought a Bluetooth transmitter for  $29 and it works fine with earbuds. The ML85s aren't that bad when you can use over the ear headphones.

On 11/16/2023 at 1:42 AM, phrunt said:

Well, it appears the rumours of price increases for Minelab products are true.

This from Lost Treasures in Australia, a dealer I trust and have bought from before.

"Just to let everyone know that Minelab will have a price increase for all of their detectors and pin pointers coming in to effect on the 1/1/24. So there is no better time than the present to grab a machine before everything goes up next year."

These are obviously Australian dollars.

I'm not quite sure why there are two GPZ's on the list but I assume one comes with the 19" coil.  It's impossible to put up the price of the Pro-Find 35 😛

I see this list and realize how much money I've burnt when I add up all my detectors 🤣

 

They should be offering rebates for the stuff they have been peddling lately.

5 hours ago, dave_e said:

@JCR

Getting the edge falsing on all passes until I rotate and shrink the sweep until it's a tight and tiny wiggle.  Actually tickling the target.  It's doable but time consuming.

 

 @Lynk

Equinox 600

Another thing to add, small nails can sound sweet from a couple different angles. In t 2 tone they will not sound round or smooth. One more thing I read, haven't tried, only because I keep forgetting  is if you go into ground balance mode and sweep they say uo can hear the iron coming off the target. Good luck. Mark