Jin

Very nice setup Norvic. 👍

Im a little undecided now. I get the feeling its going to be great on small gold at depth which my zed with the 10" coil already is. (much better than the gpz14) I can also buy other aftermarket coils that will perform better than the original on different size gold. I like the simplicity of the 6000 but for me its all about performance, nothing else.

Im now thinking a ktm or husky dirt bike might be a better choice for finding gold. Ive got areas my Ranger Raptor wont get into and my electric mountain bike runs out of battery power to quickly. So a motor bike could be handy. Still undecided at this stage. I dont think ill be getting one day dot but rather hearing feedback first.

JP, that article must have taken some time to write, so thank you.

9 minutes ago, jasong said:

I think we were just told in no uncertain terms to abandon that particular hope.

$6000+ likely.

 I wonder if a tester would have any knowledge of what the 6000 is likely to retail for .... probably not, but one said recently that the price would be (in australia) $6500.  

10 minutes ago, Trent King said:

Reading between the lines the 6000 should be perfect for me, I do loads of loaming with detectors looking for reefs.

I reckon the main bit of leaked info to listen to is when they said, all gold types, all the time ( or something similar to that). This to me says it’s going to be good on small, queer shaped, prickly, speci bits (all gold) in highly variable mineralised ground (all the time).

Could it be a gpz killer? Someone who knows a tester mentioned that you may see a lot of gpz's advertised shortly. There wasnt a HUGE difference between a 5000 and 7000 IMO. If the 6000 narrows that gap why would future buyers consider buying the flagship detector (gpz). I havnt used a 3030 but many seem to think that the nox800 is close in ablity at half the price.  

For me, it has to have performance greater than the 5000. I couldn't care less about batteries, leads, speakers or screens. Performance is the only reason ill upgrade a detector. If its better ill buy one. Ill be keeping the zed though.

From PA forum. https://rogermontgomery.com/codan-goes-from-strength-to-strength/

JANUARY 2021 UPDATE - Minelab GPX 6000 Revealed!

Anyone had experience being part of a group that owns claims that allows its members to prospect on? Here in Australia "Little Ripper Gold Inc" has formed a not for profit group that has 4 or 5 claims already and will be using members yearly fee of $100 to buy more. Im told that you Americans have similar setups over there. 

https://www.facebook.com/FreeGoldCamps/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/LittleRipperGold/

The Nugget has been found! Big thanks to the wider community, the 83 yr old owner and his wife are very, very grateful, relieved and very happy. #fb

This update came from the Dalwallinu Police on Twitter

Best stand i ever saw was on my previous trip away when i met a couple of guys with sdc's. One had made a fold out leg that attached to the sdc. When folded out the sdc stood upright. He said it helped him not have to bend down to pick up the machine all the time off the ground (bad back or knee). From memory he would stand the sdc upright then use his pick to scrape the ground. Only when he had the target located would he bend down to the ground to retrieve it  

Sorry guys, have changed the topic title to read WM12 instead of Prosonic. Just trying to get some feedback if bypassing the WM12 wireless system and plugging a booster and headphones into the Zed directly gives a better or clearer target response.

41 minutes ago, davsgold said:

What about the WM12, you can plug booster or headphones into it as well and still not have any wires connected to the 7000

The only advantage I can see between the WM12 and the Prosonic is the Proconic has a volume control, but if your using a booster these have volume control 

.Maybe I misunderstand what your trying to do?

cheers dave 

 

Sorry, having a clueless moment...again. Yes i meant the wm12 that comes with the Zed.

Plug in a booster/headphones into the WM12 (Gpz7000) or plug it directly into the 7000??

Obviously, wire-free would be more convenient but would the signal be clearer/stronger going hardwired?

(I'm not concerned about the minute bit of lag when using a wireless system)

Thought i would ask before testing this on my next trip.

9 minutes ago, Elijah said:

What sizes will coming from minelab? 

As mentioned in the thread post, the coil is a from NuggetFinder. By the pictures it looks to be 12”. Wouldn’t know what other sizes they plan on doing

I asked a Minelab dealer whether the new coil will have a patch lead or not. His reply was the chip will be built into the lead and not requiring a patch lead. Good news for those that are paranoid about chopping the chip off a standard coil and making a patch lead. Coil is due out (in Australia) at the end of June.

Thanks so much for this write up on the Nox. Its given me a real enthusiasm to get out and try mine a lot more. The first time i used it i hated it but with some wise words from Steve H about lowering the sensitivity until i got the hang of the machine I’ve begun to like it a lot.

Until now I have only got it out when at a caravan park to scab up some coins around my campsite. I think i might just get myself a few new coils and a swing arm and start actually using it more now. 

Wish i knew what the next detector from Minelab is going to be. Having seen how good the SDC is on minute gold I would love to buy one and add one of these coiltek coils to the mix. BUT, got this funny feeling Minelab might be going after the masses again like they have with the last few detectors and release a pretty good machine at a cheap price.

One chap that seems to be in the know mentioned on Facebook that the new machine would sit between the SDC and the GPX5000. Buggered if i know if that’s anywhere even remotely close to the truth but i think I’ll wait and see before committing on the SDC.

I’m no expert but feel that the equinox for the price is not miles off the performance of the CTX 3030 which is twice the price. Could it be possible that the new detector could have timings that are comparable to a SDC and GPX in one machine at a cheap price??

I’m not sure what Minelabs goal is but I’m wondering if they make more money selling lots of cheaper detectors or fewer expensive ones.  Only thinking out loud so please don’t tar and feather me, lol

5 hours ago, Jonathan Porter said:

I’m not always at liberty to show images of coils as I’m often using gear that is locked down tight under confidentiality agreements etc. That’s not in any way saying I’m testing anything in particular just that some of my gear is unconventional in nature and would raise eyebrows in the wrong circles. I have coils here that date back to pre-production of the GPZ, old favourites that produced the goods and I quite often find myself putting them on for a particular location or concept that I’m experimenting with.

Thanks for replying and sorry if i asked a question that caused any problems. It must be enjoying sometimes being a tester and always having to analyze everything you say or show.

Anyhow i only asked as we hobbyist hang of what you and other influences do (to hopefully increase our chances of success). On looking at that coil and thinking it may be the 19” i was thinking maybe i should be using a larger coil more myself.

What coil JP? Coil shape in one of the pictures almost seems like the shape of the gpz19. 

On 4/27/2020 at 1:56 AM, jasong said:

Or trade for an older XRF (InnovX DS2000 for example) with geochem, mining or soil timings.

I think i may have asked this question before but interested in others opinion so will ask again. Would XRF machines be accurate enough to sample soil for traces of gold? Amagine how good it would be to use one as a tool for loaming, instead of collecting soil and panning it. They arnt cheap though, up around $30k in Australia im told.

18 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Jin

You can't tell a story like that without 'evidence!'  haha

Mitchel

Its a bit of a hassle to put my hands on my gold as i have it stored away in a safe place. When i add to my gold collection next (obviously when i can go detecting again ... and find something) I’ll take a photo and post it up. The dead giveaway that something’s not quite right is the rounded bits are a different colour than the rest of the nugget, the gold seems shinier.

Talking about wrecking a nugget.... I was showing a mate a couple of 1/2 ounce nuggets to a mate and forgot i'd left them in my pocket. My wife refuses to check my pants pockets so they went through the wash. The sharp edges of the nuggets were rounded off, i guess it was from tumbling around in the (front load) washing machine.

To Fred’s family and friends, I’m sorry for your loss.

I never met Fred but always enjoyed his humour when he commented on peoples posts. When i saw a comment from the man in the pink/red shirt i knew it would either be witty, funny or kind.

May you find some comfort in knowing that many others thought highly of him, including myself

4 hours ago, Gold Hound said:

if there's no water even better again,

4 hours ago, Gold Hound said:

evert to old tech and whip out the small 10in gold pan that I carry everywhere with me. I sample the junctions of feeder systems

Is there a way to sample ground drypanning without water?

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

yea, I walk with it over my shoulder, my legs are too short for a hip mounted pick holder, I tried 🙂

 

I used to use a hip mounted pick holder also but found the pick used to keep hitting my legs when i walked. I now place the pick between the strap on the pro harness and my lower back. Saw the young girl on Aussie Gold Hunters do something simular so got the idea from her although she hangs hers off to the side. no more pick bouncing around when i walk and also has the benifit of keeping metal away from the 20" coil. 

On 4/1/2020 at 6:50 AM, Jonathan Porter said:

What’s actually happening, from a scientific point of view, is as you sweep you are hearing ‘something’, that something is enough for you to continue passing the coil over the zone trying to get the target signal to manifest, incrementally without realising it you minutely adjust and refine the sweep speed, the range of motion (two very different things), centering of the coil relative to the potential target and finally gradually changing the height of the coil relative to the target and bingo the signal pops out of the ether. This sub-conscience incremental adjustment is a big part of the whole gamut of visual, tactile and audio sensory input associated with metal detecting.

Sometimes the sweet spot is so tight that you ‘pop’ the target only every so often as you pass the coil in through the epicentre of the target zone, this happens a lot in saturable ground as the target signal can get blended in with saturation noise so you only have a few millimetres to play with between the saturation signal affecting the threshold and loudest target signal point, this is one of the reasons why I am not a fan of coils that saturate badly!!

A trick to try, when the saturation signal is messing with proximity to ground, is to scrape a wide area over the range of motion target zone because saturable magnetic particles tend to concentrate in the surface soils, scraping them away can give you a few millimetres more room to play with allowing the coil to almost couple to the ground. This method is effective on small shallow targets especially but also beneficial on the larger deep gold that does not increase very much in signal, in fact the lack of signal increase when I clear the saturable materials always brings a smile to my dial because deeper often means bigger.

JP

Thats an interesting explination. So thanks for sharing that. I always thought it was the ground balance at work. 3 or 4 swings usually gets rid of ground noise so i presumed that as you swing back and forth over a target it was removing some of the competing ground noise allowing the gold signal to stand out.