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The lode claims might be “Carlin” type deposits, there may have been speculation of resale involved. The old claim patent rules required proof of assessment work over a period of time (5 years?). There might be old (eocene) placer deposits on the ridges to the south.

Any new rumors out there of a scheduled “surprise announcement”  by Nokta for a release date for their new “high end”  Pulse Induction MD?

56 minutes ago, Doc Bach said:

There were a lot of interesting cats that frequented the site where I dug it.Including Russians from fort ross and other traders

If I recall correctly John Bidwell (1841 Bartleson-Bidwell Party) was employed by Sutter at Fort Ross & Bodega Bay in Jan. 1842. Sutter purchased Fort Ross from the Russian American Company in 1841. John Bidwell relieved Robert Ridley then continued the work of dismantling the Fort Ross outpost then transferring the assets to New Helvetia. 

1 hour ago, Doc Bach said:

know that I have seen fish or eel with the monkey looking face and big eyeballs that's under that Helmet Divers arm somewhere before

I have seen that Diving Helmet monkey face too. Try the US Navy Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) and Seal Team patches… 20,000 Leagues under the Sea?
 

On 1/10/2024 at 10:00 AM, Doc Bach said:

I'm hoping that someone can figure out if it has any real significance

Doc,

Any progress on the sea hag button?

22 minutes ago, schoolofhardNox said:

I would welcome another company shooting for the top tier.

I just viewed “History Revisited” explanation for what he is exchanging the Manticore for the Deus II. He does not use the screen or the 2D graphics and prefers & trusts the Deus II audio. The Manticore at $1600 vs the Deus II master at $800. 
 
You may be correct regarding Garrett targeting the Deus II. We will eventually find out.

10 minutes ago, Knomad said:

No comment Steve.?

I think he is over in the “classifieds” section. He has his eye on that T2. If he and Gerry are testers we won’t hear anything until after the Garrett release. 

 

4 minutes ago, schoolofhardNox said:

videos from England and Scotland and a lot of them have moved on from Equinoxes and have done well with the Deus II. If I were Garrett that would be my target.

Wonder why the move, especially from the Manticore to the XP Deus II.  Are they more focused on the tones? I don’t know if Garrett will shoot that high. 

14 minutes ago, jerrym said:

may try the Garrett

Yeah, if Garrett finally comes out with an AT multi frequency we will all be standing in line. 

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

she was swinging that coil way off the ground

According to Google Earth, if you roll the date back,  prior to the cornfield there was a hillside…

50 minutes ago, TampaBayBrad said:

And at a 45 degree angle!

…with a coffee shop just up a 45 degree slope. 

1 hour ago, Aureous said:

McDonalds Big Mac voucher

Cut the Garrett wishlist short, had to stop for lunch. 

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

AT Series Multi freaker,

Yeah, you’re right. This subject was beat to death last year. But here we are still waiting.  Just maybe…it is an affordable $2000 pulse induction. I ain’t going there again… at least not until my probation period ends.

5 minutes ago, JCR said:

SMF AT

A Garrett AT MF, that would work!

On 1/8/2024 at 8:10 AM, Bill (S. CA) said:

She mentions it at 14:40 in the video.

The rumor mill is dead quiet on this exciting 2024 new Garrett Metal Detector pending release. So I am starting my own rumor straight from the horse arse. 

The new Garrett MD is a camouflaged first edition at a price point we can’t pass up, equipped with digital “selectibility” that allows switching between a Discriminating PI and SMF VLF or both, a stock a 10x5 coil switchable between DD and mono, a finds bag, a rebranded TRX Bullseye Pinpointer, three days of training on the rye patch with meals & lodging included. A large selection of switchable coils and…

17 hours ago, Melbeta said:

Yes, I have a lot of experience prospecting in Colorado

Looking forward to reading about your Colorado prospecting experiences. Had family that worked quartz mines in the Montrose/Gunnison area in the 1930’s. They had some interesting tales of underground mining. Glad you joined the forum.

44 minutes ago, tboykin said:

how do you decide the specific topography (hillside, gully, or ridge) you are going to target, based on known factors at a likely spot?

In the foothills the old timers working stream placers would often dry sample upslope once the gold played off in the stream. I believe Chris describes the process. I often follow the same procedure, stopping to examine quartz float found on the slope. As you stated or impied the limitations are the depth of the overburden, the detection depth of a metal detector and the amount brush covering the slope. I have found old sample holes while crawling under the brush cover and a few times found the source. The new collapsible detectors make the process workable. Once on or near the ridge I will follow the quartz stringer, if any, looking for a place to stand up and happy for it. I do not use headphones but the ML pro sonic speaker. I use a VLF if the ground mineralization allows. Like you I am looking for prior activity, the older the trash the better. I consider lead balls a good sign plus it gives me some idea how deep to look. Once close to the source the old timers would dig a trench down to bedrock parallel to the slope. So picks heads and broken shovels factor into the search. I often find myself thinking the old process worked for them, it could work for me. That is usually when I discover the old timers arrived at the source long ago. But it is fun, I keep searching and even get lucky from time to time.

1 hour ago, Doc Bach said:

Hey you have rvpopeye laughing as well but he is probably looking for Sea Hag in the pictures 😂

Yeah, I got to stop sprinkling those wild mushrooms on my morning snow cone. Pretty rugged coastline north of Point Conception. No telling how many New England whalers navigated up the coastline stopping where able to resupply. I think you may have proof they pulled ashore. I got to get back to the harvest before the snow closes off access to the crawl space. Later

12 hours ago, Doc Bach said:

By God you might be onto something there! You have me looking at it in a whole different light and dimension.

An 1800’s mariners/seafarers brass picture button? Might be worth some further research. Amazing!

Does it appear the person in the rear has an oar with a second person seated forward? The oarsman seems to be enjoying their undersea voyage. The fish a grouper, another sea lion or the oarsman’s knee? Is the figure up forward a female reaching towards another sea lion swimming past the bow? Or is she rescuing a drowning sailor entangled in kelp?

Poseidon/Neptune cruising through a kelp bed? Any sign of a trident?

Leucothea & Palaemon, according to The Age of Fable by Thomas Bulfinch, both held power to save from shipwreck and were invoked by sailors; jurisdiction of the ports & shores. 

Leucothea (Ino in the Odyssey) a Greek sea goddess who saved Odysseus from drowning when his raft was shattered. Her murdered son Melicertes became the Greek sea god Palaemon (Portunus to the Romans).

3 hours ago, Doc Bach said:

what I'm guessing to be a duck hunting scene? 

The button appears to be a man overboard caught up in seaweed with a seal/sea lion swimming overhead; the sea lion may be chasing after a diving duck or cormorant; there also appears to be a large fish with a big mouth located below the man’s arm. 

The bullet mould shows some craftsmanship.

Great finds

Two Toes, Bill Southern, Brass Medic, Chris Ralph… open to suggestions.

45 minutes ago, tboykin said:

What have those kooky guys at Garrett got up their sleeve this time Steve

Good news, glad the hear rumors Garrett has something coming off the bench.

On 9/28/2023 at 7:45 PM, Gold Ryder said:

Outside Helena Montana today. Massive prairie rattler

I’ve run into timber rattlers about half that long but just as thick. Ain’t no mountain buffalos for them to prey on. As a youth awoke one morning with a rattler and brush rabbit wrestling between my exposed feet. Sleep with my boots on to this day. Them brush rabbits are dangerous. 

5 hours ago, Dancer said:

Cameras tucked into bikinis,  no limit to body art. 

.. and spreading quarters on the beach. My kind of people. 

On 9/2/2023 at 11:01 PM, Rad Rocks said:

Whether it be Rattlesnakes, Water Moccasins, Thorns, Gators, Cacti, or anything else some of us may have never thought of

“Mountain Gal Sal” illegitimate great granddaughter to a mountain trapper by the name of Monte Wolfe. At the end of a hot day she spends more time soaking in the spring pond than the bears. She runs with a coyote, as a fashion statement she wraps a rubber boa snake around her neck and shares her table with a lowly opossom. You can’t imagine how many of her spring water coffees tasted of toe fungus. 

But as she is fond of saying “ Coffee’s coffee no matter how homely the company”.

Here’s a link to the demise of Monte Wolfe:

https://www.calaverashistory.org/files/f6e40e1f5/monte_vgl_book.pdf

On 1/6/2024 at 2:19 AM, relicmeister said:

I would assume the Nox 900 iron falsing to be less of a problem when using the 6” coil in dense iron - regardless of IB or recovery speed

The smaller diameter 6” coil dodges between the pieces of iron trash easier. Using both the 6” & 11” nox coils with a higher IB setting was able to tone down iron falsing over a 8” deep horseshoe and railroad spike. An 8” deep iron plate (8”x 8”) gives off a consistent non-ferrous TID regardless of IB setting. An 8” deep axehead gives off an iron falsing signal regardless of IB setting. 
 

On 1/6/2024 at 2:19 AM, relicmeister said:

I pulled my only ever half reales

French reales? A few Spanish Reales pulled out of the ground here in the west by others, I am still searching. During the gold rush coins were in short supply, the old prospectors cut the reales into eight pieces for trading and often traded their military belt buckles. 

Another round of cold & snow moving into the west coast on Tuesday the 9th. In the teens tonight. One side of the family started west in the late 1700’s from Lancaster county. The other side moved out of western North Carolina at about the same time. They all met up and began begetting in Texas before moving up into the Indian territories prior to the civil war.
Stay dry.

You could contact Mount Baker Mining & Metals to see if they have any interest. I am sure they would require test samples. 

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

decided to go back over my patch that I tried the 10x5 on the other day with no success, hoping the 12x7 may find something but an entire afternoon of nothing, I guess the 15cc  and 8” got it all that I can find

How did the 7000 miss all those pellets and small brass, did you elect not to dig based on the double blip? The center photo appears to be a shallow seasonal drainage, is this the location you detected the pellets? If so you may want to hit that area again but a little deeper. 

Here’s the Forum Detector Database link: https://www.detectorprospector.com/search/?type=&tags=tesoro detector.

14 kHz is a little light for a gold nugget hunter. Noticed the detector is not waterproof, if that’s a feature you want. 

On a  side note: been reading “ Roadside Geology of Nevada”. The introduction gives a good but brief account of the geology of Nevada before getting into specific areas. The University of Nevada, Reno, School of Mines & Geology has loads of information. https://www.unr.edu/mackay

On 1/1/2024 at 3:46 AM, George Kinsey said:

Looks like I should have mine shipped 1/4/24

If you hit that Culpeper dirt could you post the ground balance setting for the Abyss plus how the detector performed. Thanks