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Could Garrett have an annoucement regarding a 2024 release later this month?

I made out the rabbit pin on the back of the button. Got an artist to attempt an explanation of the metal casting process.

Bronze casting process?
Starting with a carved/engraved clay figure, enclose clay figures in split plaster mold, remove clay figure, fill plaster mold with wax, remove wax figure, dip wax figure in silica power multiple time forming a second mold, pour molten bronze into silica mold replacing wax. Vanishing wax method?  

For jewelry the wax may be carved/engraved. Clay is often used for larger figures. 
A lot of time & craftsmanship involved.

*Wonder if the same method could be used to recycle gold crowns. Just a thought.

1776 Continental Marines device consisted of a fouled anchor and eagle as an original design following the design of United Kingdom Royal Marines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USMC_oldEGA_button.jpg

In 1776, the device consisted of a fouled anchor (tangled in its rope) of silver or pewter. Changes were made in 1798, 1821, and 1824. In 1834, it was prescribed that a brass eagle be worn on the cover, the eagle to measure 3.5 inches (89 mm) from wingtip to wingtip. An eagle clutching a fouled anchor with thirteen six-pointed stars above was used on uniform buttons starting in 1804.This same insignia is used today on the buttons of Marine dress and service uniforms, with the six-pointed stars changed to five-pointed stars.

1 hour ago, Doc Bach said:

The maritime Naval or Marine button was found last summer

Thirteen stars along the upper rim of the maritime button, if that has any meaning. The rabbit button has clean detail. Need to start educating myself on sportsman buttons. Nice finds, thanks for posting.

1 hour ago, F350Platinum said:

the rabbit is a pinned and peened addition

What is pinned & peened? 
 

Does anyone know now the designs were made or transferred? Several appear cast in a mold others stamped.

Passing of an era.

Kenneth Ronald White
August 5, 1936 – January 13, 2024

On 1/17/2024 at 4:44 PM, lostmypassworddude said:

trek by foot from Monterey to Mariposa

After the read you see the country side in a different light, especially the branches of the Merced. They were not in anyway prepared, Paint Your Wagon wasn’t even close to their reality.

1 hour ago, George Kinsey said:

Not all or  I would need a room addition.🙃

What are the odds that there’s a “sewing machine” in that room?  Thanks for taking the heat for all the rest of us. 

16 hours ago, CoinShooter said:

In the winter, the traffic is down because the salmon aren't in. This makes for nearly vacant parking lots 🙂

Back in the late 1930’s my father was employed on Kodiak. During his stay he found himself on the deck of a barge spooling a communication cable up Cook Inlet towards Anchorage. According to his story the temperatures were so extreme that 15 minutes of deck exposure was 10 minutes too long. Two of the crew were locals that had a lode claim somewhere up the inlet, I believe it was in the Chugach. They convinced him to accompany them on a hike up into the claim. He would often described the free gold he saw in the quartz they had him carry out.  After that he was hooked. 

On 1/8/2022 at 10:05 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

And the greasy smoke in an inky cloak went streaking down the sky.

Poor Sam McGee from Tennessee the huskies did know “deep fried” when they smelt it.

3 hours ago, Doc Bach said:

fascinated with it as much as I am but it's so far a mystery

It is the history connected to the button that interests me, far more than the button itself. About the time Sutter purchased Fort Ross the Russians were experiencing a food shortage in their Alaskan settlements plus they had about depleted the sea otter population along the California coast. The Spanish moved north of the SF bay to block the Russians from expanding their operation south and refuse to trade. The British were sailing up the coast to the Hudson Bay Company at Fort Vancouver. Whaling stations were eventually established from Monterey to Fields Landing. So for any merchant vessel sailing up the coastline there were ample opportunities for trade, a need for provisions and fresh water with a limited number of ports north of Point Conception. Unless there is a collector among us, a clue to the story behind that button may well remain a mystery.  Good find. 

I found this an interesting read: “Gold Seeker”, a gold rush journal by Jean-Nicolas Perlot. If nothing else the book provides some insight into the primitive conditions these California prospectors found themselves in the 1850’s. In addition to the mining techniques employed there are a few clues regarding what to look for while out detecting old mining sites. 

49 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

Here in the East we call them "Sportsmen's Buttons

So you’re saying there’s a Chesapeake Bay retriever on that button. Under the right conditions, others may believe it to be Grateful Dead concert token. Either way I’d enjoy seeing photos posted of Sportmen’s buttons. 

On 1/15/2024 at 7:13 AM, dirtdigger88 said:

Looking at getting the Simplex Ultra and a Legend (both) I can't seem to find much online as far as comparisons

History Revisited has a few videos on the Legend plus the Simplex Ultra:

9 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

Are you referring to the GPZ 7000

And higher.

19 minutes ago, CoinShooter said:

Has any of you ever done this? If so, did you have any success?

I crawl down through the hatch in the floor leaving the XP Deus RC setting close to the woodstove. But the only thing down here is firewood and a couple of hibernating chipmunks. I thinking of heading back upstairs for another try under the couch cushions.. Good luck finding a parking space in Soldotna.

42 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

It's probably something more ambitious

Yeah, what if Garrett is aiming at the ML 7000, I mean we are talking Texas!

Just imagine a satellite linked “ Texas Ranger 7500 “ with ground penetrating radar and a built in trackhoe for them core-deep treasures…

On 11/22/2023 at 8:31 AM, JCR said:

I have seen a few unofficial mentions of a supposed upcoming "Beast mode" update for the Legend. Has anyone seen anything more official from Nokta on this?

No!

Dilek Gonulay, NDT* has asked us to not pester her with questions regarding any unofficial release dates. However, she did not specifically restrict questions regarding official release dates.

*What’s that country song about being “both pretty and smart, I am going to break a million hearts”? And now watch as I tie that comment to prospecting and detecting… Dear Dilek, I love my Legend.

On 1/12/2024 at 11:02 AM, rvpopeye said:

Mr HardPack

No need for the mister. My parents were married… to each other.

On 1/13/2024 at 9:03 AM, rvpopeye said:

Oh , and I lived through the 60s and all the way through the 80s in the music biz . I never heard of snowcones with mushroom topping ? Sounds hard core...

The closest I got to Woodstock was a couple of fellow marines out of upstate New York. A redheaded Irish from Callicoon, NY, made a curvy figure with both hands while asking his fellow jerk-offs “ If you could have anything back in the world.. what would it be?”  Being the latest arrival from home, knowing I had a better chance, my reply was “ ice cream”.  The next morning as we moved out “Red” came up from behind choking his arm around my neck singing “ Ice Cream, Ice Cream, everybody loves ice cream”, the rest of the squad joined in on the chorus. “Ice Cream” would become my call sign. Into the future my real world “hippie wife” did attended the Woodstock concert of the west at Altamount Pass. She rode up with some biker dude from Oakland. 

On 1/13/2024 at 9:03 AM, rvpopeye said:

Do you think we need to attempt an intervention ?

Tequila is not addictive only transformative. HardPack.. that’s a label from an old acquaintance of my wife. 

On 1/12/2024 at 12:50 PM, Doc Bach said:

my first impression was that HP was breaking my nads

I eventually quit drinking in order stand up and walk… which allowed me to start metal detecting. I have found metal detectors are far more addictive but thankfully no hangovers. Doc, keep us posted on that button. 

 “You have a real piece of maritime history there”.

On 1/15/2024 at 7:13 AM, dirtdigger88 said:

Looking at getting the Simplex Ultra and a Legend (both) I can't seem to find much online as far as comparisons to each other, please on the Simplex line, but nothing that compares it to the Legend. I am pretty settled on the Legend, and just looking at other units that might have some sort of advantages or differences in features

You might as well enjoy the ride before making a purchase decision. Here’s a link to “History Revisited”. You may find his videos also make good training for your ear (hit the CC bottom).

The video can also apply to the XP Deus I, especially with a HF coil. It definitely puts it all together. 

XP Deus II ferrous filters in Discrim & IAR. Towards the second half of the video covers ferrous settings and audio in mineralized ground. 

Buried a 12mm lead round ball at 8 inches among several pieces of iron & coins at 4, 6, 7, 8 inches to test a couple of SMF VLF detectors. The ground is wet clay with a the GB 40.  Both the VLF in SMF struggled with the 8” round ball, dime & penny.  Decided to test the ML SDC2300 with the stock 8 inch mono loop. At sensitivity 4 & 5, without headphones. the 2300 signal was faint but clear. The 8” deep penny, nickel, dime & quarter were all detected. I was pleasantly surprised with the 2300 detection depth. I need to play with the buried iron to get a better feel to the ferrous signal.
Has anyone experienced similar depths detecting with the SDC in the field? 

The lode claims might be “Carlin” type deposits, there may have been speculation of resale involved. The old claim patent rules required proof of assessment work over a period of time (5 years?). There might be old (eocene) placer deposits on the ridges to the south.

Any new rumors out there of a scheduled “surprise announcement”  by Nokta for a release date for their new “high end”  Pulse Induction MD?

56 minutes ago, Doc Bach said:

There were a lot of interesting cats that frequented the site where I dug it.Including Russians from fort ross and other traders

If I recall correctly John Bidwell (1841 Bartleson-Bidwell Party) was employed by Sutter at Fort Ross & Bodega Bay in Jan. 1842. Sutter purchased Fort Ross from the Russian American Company in 1841. John Bidwell relieved Robert Ridley then continued the work of dismantling the Fort Ross outpost then transferring the assets to New Helvetia. 

1 hour ago, Doc Bach said:

know that I have seen fish or eel with the monkey looking face and big eyeballs that's under that Helmet Divers arm somewhere before

I have seen that Diving Helmet monkey face too. Try the US Navy Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) and Seal Team patches… 20,000 Leagues under the Sea?