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ELITE coils stocked up and ready to roll 🙂

I would say the 9" ELITE and 14x9" ELITE the best options for this but will wait and see.

Getting popcorn ready.... 

Trev

Hi Cudamark... Thought I would jump in here to share a link of a report i found from a guy in the UK. This is an independent view and his initial thoughts.

So far I haven't seen a lot of reports from users but I am sure there will be.

From my perspective the small links and earrings would not be what this larger coil is suited to. If they are on the surface or top 1-2 inches it may respond to them ok but its the larger targets where it will benefit. It weighs around 900 grams inc skid plate so if weight is the issue we recommend using a harness to assist for longer periods of use.

Happy new year to you!

Trevor

Hey Phrunt - yes our investment in to automation and additive manufacturing has been good in the last few years as it certainly helps with efficiency and consitency of product. We have more plans for 2024 to help us get even better in these areas and expand our capability even further.

I didnt know the team posted that photo of me though hahaha! I must admit I think the 18" coil is one of the best looking we have made 🙂 so i spoiled the shot!

Trev

36 minutes ago, RickUK said:

A total stab in the dark here but i dont think i am wrong 'UK Tester and Coiltek and Minelab' = Gordon Heritage 🤣🤣🤣

You would be correct Rick 🙂

35 minutes ago, phrunt said:

 

As for the Manticore, please, please, pretty please with a cherry on top make a 6.5x3.5 solid epoxy filled coil for heavy trash, and of course the ultimate prospecting coil for small gold. 

The other one would be a big coil, even the existing 18" coil from the Equinox if that could be adapted to the Manticore it would make sense although ideally, I'd prefer a 17x13".

 

Some interesting sizes there Phrunt. Thank you for the suggestions 🙂

Trevor

HI Chase, happy to contribute where I can...

Manticore coils.... maybe!

What sizes do you think are missing in the current line up?

Trev

Hey All - some great discussion here on the 'Why' of another coil option... and of course there are those that see the purpose and have the need and those that are OK with what they have and you know that is super fine with us.

This coil was brought to market due to a large amount of requests from different regions in the globe for a large coin and treasure coil. So essentially we researched the idea of a big coil and how it would work and where it may suit, discussed it with Minelab and they also saw that it will fill a gap, ran the prototypes and field trials and here we go - the 18" NOX.

Coiltek has always filled gaps for gold and treasure hunters with the Minelab detectors and they all have their purpose. We liken it to a golfer with his/her kit of clubs... each has a purpose and a strength for the right shot. Some you wouldn't use in certain situations as it would be a waste of effort and be frustrating. Sometimes you would go to a course and not even use a certain club, but you know its there if you need it. Like myself (try hard golfer) I like having the kit and and stuff that a golfer needs but will only use a club when I feel confident it will do a job that I want and I know what will work in certain situations.

The 18" is this type of coil you have in the kit for a specific need and the terrain that will allow it to swing well and free of obstruction. Deep treasure, coins or relics would be its forte with the smaller jewelry and coins needing to be closer to the surface to be picked up. Yes this coil is not made for sensitivity even though its good for its size, the smaller coils are best for the shallower smaller targets in general as most would expect. Our UK tester found several Danarius coins at over 18" deep on ground he had searched before with all types of detector and coil combos (even manticore) and the 18" NOX and GPX5000 with our 18" ELITE were the only ones to get more targets.

We are realistic...

We know its not going to be a coil for everyone - that's OK but for those that use it it will perform well

We know the coil is heavier due to its size and epoxy resin filling - but it is robust and can take some serious prospecting

We know most will use it with a detecting harness to help with the weight - plenty to choose from on the market

We know certain regions love big coils - Middle east, UK, Europe and Asia but maybe not US, AUST or some EURO countries

We know it will be a deeper searching coil than the 15"NOX with larger targets - the bigger the target the more depth gain

The whole Coiltek team are excited to release this coil and hope it will benefit a bunch of enthusiasts and professionals who believe this coil will suit their specific detecting needs. Once it is in the market I am sure there will be several reports and videos being released so others can see how it operates. I am always super nervous and anxious at any new coil release... and also very excited to see how it goes. We have done our best to get it right and now its up to us to prove we can replicate the performance with every coil.

Trev @ Coiltek

No problems - I think bunched and bundle for me are the same thing... 

Have a great day all!

Trev

Its always cool to see an xray of the coils dont you think... even though I know exactly what goes in them it allows me to ensure everything looks as it should - which it does and why they are operating excellently! BTW - the black area is our invisible magic dust that ensures people have the best chance of success!! That is our secret sauce recipe! 🙂😉

In regards to the bunch/ spiral type windings all the coils for the GPX6000 are bunched windings. The only coils that are truly spiral windings are the ELITE coils and the Evolution from NF. We refer to bunched windings as the wire is arranged 6 wide by 5 high for example. So if you cross section the windings you would see this layer construction. For the flat windings you would see 1 wire high by 20 or so wires wide. All one continuous strand.

From all of us here at Coiltek we appreciate the support we have had for the GOLDHAWK coils and look forward to new and exciting coils to come in the future!

Trev

Hey Phrunt. 

The hole for the pressure vent is on the base and will be hidden by the skid plate when fitted. If you remove the skid and look around the perimeter of the base you will see a 1mm hole - this is the vent. On the inside of the base we place a small pad which is IP rated for dust and water ingress and allows air to pass through - its the same pad as what Minelab use on their GPX6000 coils.

If you do tape on the coil it should pose too much of an issue as most tapes are porous to a degree. if you are in doubt though you can make a small cut in the tape close to where the vent hole is to assist.

Trev

Awesome going Nedkelly!!! Super impressed with that haul. 
 

is it ok if I share these images? 
trev

2 minutes ago, strick said:

Thanks for the response Trevor...the other guy uses core cell in their coils its good stuff but expensive the reason I know is I’ve bought plenty of for use on boats . Do you use a  light weight foam coring as well?

strick 

Yes we do... A foam inner core which the windings are laid in - lightweight and strong. 🙂 

On 8/8/2022 at 7:53 PM, strick said:

Most of the talk has been about coil shapes and sizes...the excitement reminds me of kids ordering ice cream in a store....I’d like to know more about how they are built compared to your competitors? NF goes into a little detail about their construction methods on their web site...I could not find much on yours...What are the components that go into the build quality of your coils? From out side to inside. 

Strick 

Hi All - been away for a bit out West on a sales trip and running the coils... Geez I like them but some would say I am bias 🙂

A quick run down for you....

ABS plastic injection moulded housings - 2mm thick for extra strength and assist with minimising any flex when swinging

Cable and internal PCB parts all same as Minelab (as do NF coils) - I can assure all that the cables are shielded very well and I do not believe that if there are any issues that the cable contributes to this.

High grade LITZ wire - same as what is int he ML coils.

in-spec shielding top and bottom of coil

Pressure regulation pad to keep out water and dust but assist to regulate the pressure in the coil to minimise any swelling and induced noise

Wings thickened for robustness and 8mm nylon nut and bolt.

Poly carb label to look good - always! 😉

All made in our Salisbury South manufacturing facility where we have 13 staff plus me (sales and technical) and my wife (CEO & Marketing) building coils and also making electronic windings (inductors,transformers etc) inc. QA, Engineering, Customer Service etc and all other things to keep a small-medium business running... 

I hope this answers your query on this...

Regards, Trevor.

Thanks Phrunt. Appreciate your comments and support over the years. 
 

you never know what the future holds for new coils. 😁
 

Hey All, just thought I would say a big thanks to all who have purchased and used the coils so far and enjoying their abilities. It looks like the coils are certainly kicking some goals.

The coils are designed to provide different options for your detecting and compliment the already brilliant GPX6000. To hear they are running very stable and sensitive is just what we planned for and all three sizes are proving their capabilities.

Phrunt - I am glad the coil has helped your unit and I am sure the 10x5" will be dynamite on the small stuff for you. Thank you for the support.

From my experience over the years most detectors and coils will be somewhat noisier when tilted on their side as they are seeing more interference especially when no ground is under the coil (i.e: tilting on a flat surface when compared to running up the side of a creek bank). It doesn't necessarily mean the coil is faulty - if the coil is behaving poorly when in a normal orientation then this could indicate a shield issue. 

Enjoy your days - Trev

5 minutes ago, phrunt said:

Thanks Trevor, ordered myself the 14x9 to start with! Is the release date the date they start shipping from Coiltek to dealers or the date dealers will likely have them in stock?   Mine will likely be even later as I'm in NZ so will probably have to wait a week or two for it to arrive here from OZ.

Thanks for your support! Our schedule looks like the dealers should have their initial allocated amounts on the 28th. Goldrush has several on order and is on our list to dispatch in time for the release. We will do our very best to ensure we get the coils over quickly!

Trev

5 hours ago, phrunt said:

Ricks on their payroll and is virtually a mascot.  It's good to hear they're performing well though, I'm sitting patiently waiting for mine to arrive.

Hi Phrunt - Rick is not on our payroll but is our ambassador for the coil series. This is something he is happy to do as he enjoys using the Coiltek coils on his detectors.

Certainly performing well and we are excited to get them released - 28th July here we come!

Best of luck with yours when you get it

Trevor

Thanks - maybe DD coils one day, you never know

We see no issues with the coils we have got running for these videos. They are working perfectly.

Thanks for the support!

Trevor

15 hours ago, Aureous said:

A stuff up that catastrophic must only be due to the internal extra wiring to hook up the chip.... it would over-spec the inductance and resistance values. Cut the lead ridiculously short to bring back the numbers. Perhaps they shouldn't have let you video them for promo purposes. Anyway, looks like the sensitivity is still solid, especially so with the smaller 2 coils. 

HI All - cant help myself here. 

Prototype and pre-production coils dont always get the exact same parts as the production and there are reasons as to why the cable is shorter for a couple coils in this circumstance. This shortening of the cable has no affect on inductance values, resistance maybe 0.01%. Essentially no performance change whatsoever and not a 'stuff up' as you have commented.

Gerry and GRGuy received our coils for field tests and have been doing a great job in feedback for us and finding the gold with all three sizes. the best test I have found over the years is just getting the coils on the ground running for as much time as possible to get that feedback. We are very confident the coils will do what they are supposed to do and provide another option when detecting.

Not one size coil will 'see' all the gold as each coil type, configuration and size has a different 'window' of gold it will respond to. this is why there are more coils being made for the GPX6000 and has been done for all previous detectors, not just Minelabs.

If a user chooses to, they could (not should) buy another coil type to fit their prospecting needs. This does not mean that the Minelab coils are not great performers at all, it means that they are now more options to find more gold. Those that wish to stay with the 11" round coil for the 6000 will still have a great coil and if it finds lots of gold for them that is just brilliant. If they wish to get another coil size and run over the same gold bearing ground they may find more gold which the 11" didnt see. I think that there are many that know this but there are also many that have yet to experience this first hand so may be questioning why another coil. We will be releasing videos on this topic in the coming months specifically on the GOLDHAWK coils.

Big thanks to Gerry and GRGuy for their efforts and there are more great videos and images to come from them which will help plus also more release information from Coiltek coming soon!

BTW- that 9" round is a great coil too Gerry... but don't tell anyone 🙂

Trev @ Coiltek.

15 minutes ago, Aureous said:

ALL coils are NOT flat wound? That goes against the original ML parameters for the 6000. I would hope thats a typo/mistake as the 9" round and the 14x9 SHOULD be flat wound....there's room in the coil shell, just like the Elite coils for the previous GPX series... The 10x5 HAS to be bundle wound of course.

Hi Aureous... I am not sure what you mean by the 'original ML parameters' and what information you have on this.

The GOLDHAWK coils are bunch wound like the ML coils.

I hope this clears up your concern.

Trev.

Thanks for the replies - and some good questions.

Phrunt - answers are

weights of the coils are on the website now: https://coiltek.com.au/coils/goldhawk-series/

9" = 700gms inc skid plate

10x5" = 575gm inc skid plate

14x9" = 900gm inc skid plate

Plastics are UV rated ABS

There isnt many plastics that wont scratch in the field with dirt being scrapped over the coils. the labels are a polycarb so are very durable and will look great even if rubbed over with the scoop. coils are quite robust to handle many conditions

yes waterproof to 1 mtr.

All coils are bunched windings.

Hope this helps answer your initial queries and I am sure more will be answered once the coils are out in the field after July 14th

Thanks, Trevor

So I had the chance to get out myself and test the new GOLDHAWK coils... Super impressed.

The 10x5" size is a superb little coil - 🙂

The 9" round is a great well balance coil - I like this one

The 14x9" is a great searcher with some excellent performance characteristics... 

More news coming out this week!!

Excited to get these out there!

Stay well peeps.

Trev

Thanks SH and JP and all for the support. 
the 10x5 NOX certainly hit the mark for the detector and users of it. We are very pleased to see it so warmly received. 

Most of the weight for the coils comes from the winding wire then the plastics next, nothing we can do about the wire really as you need this of course. Plastics, we are investing in new mounding and are very excited about it  - can’t say too much more at this stage  

If the coil is potted with epoxy then this is extra again

Ron  about your query can the small elliptical size DD be as sensitive as the 11” round? I am guessing mono? 
for me I always see the smaller ellipticals like 10x5” have an edge on sensitivity to larger round coils but inherently mono coils are more sensitive than DD coils of the same size   

I’m looking forward to 2022! 
Trev

Well this topic  for GPX6000 coils by Coiltek has gone off the rails a bit with other brands and detectors. 

anyway if you’re keen to find out more join our mailing list and keep an ear out. 
We do appreciate all the relevant coil comments and I for one am looking forward to getting these things out there! 
 

take care all 

Trev. 

23 hours ago, Rob Allison said:

Hey Trevor,

  That is great news!  However, please do us a huge favor and allow the US market to get their fair share.  Since Coiltek started selling coils, I have been there with you.  I got only a handful of coils for the Equinox to date, while there are thousands of customers still waiting, most getting them from overseas dealers rather than the US market.  

I just hate to see a huge hype on GPX 6000 coils and we only get a handful to boot.  

Coming from a loyal, longtime dealers and supporter.  Hope you take my honest opinion to heart.

Rob

Hi Rob - Appreciate your comment and we will certainly doing the best we can - the NOX coil demand definitely caught us off guard and has been our biggest release ever - this makes us very happy and in a spin all at once! 

Plans are being set in place to be more prepared this time but we are not expecting the same level of demand as its a more Gold Specific coil type.

Once we release more info we can start better planning from orders. At this stage we are not taking any pre-orders as we want to release more about the coils first.

Thanks, Trevor.

thanks for all the positive comments and wishes everyone - very much appreciate and we are excited too.

Sizes and shapes will be released later but I am sure it will make most of you happy 🙂

I can appreciate your comment Ridge Runner but i can assure you we are not the only ones with delays for products and we are catching up very nicely. As a consumer myself I can relate - my Whiskey delivery is taking ages to come and I cant wait to try it out.

My favorite for the older units is always the 14x9" Elliptical. Just such a nice sized coil

Trev