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    GPZ + X-Coils, NF Z-Search, GPX 5k, GPX 4500, GBP, GB2, GM1000, CTX 3030, AT Gold, T2, Ace300i, Ace350, Nox800 + Coiltek 10x5, Vanquish 540, Go-Find40, Simplex+, Keene A52S, A52, A51, Garrett 24k.

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  1. Yea, I was grumpy and took it out on Bounty Hunter 🙂 The problem is everyone around this area knows me, and knows I'm the guy with the detectors in the area and know I use them in that field, I'd be the one to get the blame. I had no choice but to try fix it up. It's very easy for people to ruin it for everyone and the dig it all no Target ID detectors are partly to blame. I always recommend very easy to use stable Target ID detectors to people wanting to take up detecting, and give them a Target ID list to make their cherry picking a breeze and I've had some very happy feedback from people about their choice of detector after following that advice, some pay off their detector in "spendies" which are NZ $1 and $2 coins in no time. They cut their teeth digging easy coin targets with the Target ID list and by the time they're ready to branch out and find other targets they have a better understanding of what to do.
  2. I took my T2 out for a spin this afternoon as I just felt like using it, and I enjoyed using it and almost forgot how nice it felt on my arm. That's what it's all about isn't it? More people would get to experience a T2/F75 if the price was reasonable for the detector it is in today's market. I hope they release their high end detectors as low end detectors at some point like they did with the F19, the T2 and F75 would make good entry level machines, they'd be better off getting rid of a lot of the toys they sell and stick with selling these better detectors as competitive entry level machines. A T2, F75 and the Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro (F19) sit along side the competitors entry level machines nicely as decent entry level detectors, what puzzles me is why detecting companies haven't realized that if they make beginners detectors as enjoyable and easy as possible to use with good Target ID's and not segments they'll end up with more users and happier ones too. These detectors with a few discrimination segments and no Target ID's should all be discontinued. The last thing we want is a bunch of beginners using what are essentially dig all non-ferrous detectors digging holes all over the place to dig up a ton of junk, if they have good cherry picking Target ID detectors the parks and areas we detect won't be so badly dug up by people who know no better using their detector. Here where we have $1 and $2 coins people are quite content just digging their ID numbers, you can go home with a significant amount of money in coins from a quick hunt in a good spot. I rarely don't find enough on a days hunt to at least pay for a decent lunch, often enough to pay for lunch and dinner 🙂 The more ID information they get the less likely they'll dig so many holes. My usual field detecting spot this afternoon had messy holes dug on it and not even refilled so I spent my time fixing someone else's mess, they left some of their finds sitting in the holes and they were just a bunch of junk including some nails and rusty bottle tops, so they were digging it all. I've never stumbled across another detector user in my area so I assume someone got one for Christmas or it's someone from out of town. Either way, had they had a better detector and some education they'd likely not have dug holes all over the place for no reason. It really annoys me when companies make and sell detectors with no Target ID's targeting beginners, the people most likely to do the wrong thing digging holes. Releasing kids detectors with a happy face for non-ferrous and a sad one for ferrous is criminal! This is Bounty Hunters kids detector. It really pains me to see detectors like this being sold, imagine the holes a kid will be digging and you can bet the parents won't be letting them dig them in their own back yard. Why in this day and age do they need to sell something like this? Then if you go into their $200 USD and over models, it looks terrible for the price. https://www.detecting.com/bounty-hunter-serious-metal-detectors.htm#sharp I know absolutely nothing about Bounty hunter as they're not sold here and not generally a brand I'd be looking to buy a detector from but this is just incredible. The manufacturing cost of something like this Camo-LS detector would hardly be any different to a F75. Paying that price for something with 9 segments of ID. Surely they don't really sell them for these prices and the website must be so out of date with its pricing, well I certainly hope so. Anyway that's my rant over, I just don't think they should be selling detectors like this at all, their high end sales must be low enough now they can justify killing off all these low end toys and replace them with their better detectors and actually truly become competitive in the low end market with other manufacturers. Maybe I'm just grumpy as I spent so many hours cleaning up someone else's mess but the less target information a detector gives the more holes they will dig.
  3. To throw a spanner in the works there is a highly modified Equinox on the market in Russia, they seem to gut an Equinox and use it's electronics in their own housing and it is waterproof to 10 meters (32 feet). They incorporate 3 batteries to extend battery life in it too and use their own touchpad with what they say are better buttons. They also supply headphones with it they say are better than the Koss ones that Minelab sell. I've got the Koss ones although I've rarely used them ,they seem OK. this second video is in Russian but shows pictures of it a bit better The only reason I know about it is a guy I know in NZ bought one and it's just arrived. Here are the photos he shows of his one, good on Steve for giving it a shot though, if it works out for him he's now got himself a nice diving detector with an extended battery life. I'm considering getting it but now with the Deus 2 on the market is there really a point trying to improve the Equinox waterproofing? Maybe not, all comes down to the Deus 2 performance.
  4. I guess if anything this demonstrates why brand loyalty by dealers and customers may not be in the customers best interest. It's why I prefer dealers that sell more than one brand. If a dealer sold the 24k, and also sold the Gold Monster which would they recommend, especially in the US where pricing is similar. I don't know much about the US market and the only dealer in the US I've purchased from is Serious Detecting but they list the 24k at $697 and the GM1000 at $899, granted the GM comes with some extras like the second coil and a cheap garden shovel. It's a shame they're sold out of the 6" Concentric coils for the 24k as it is listed at $138, so even with adding on a second coil with the Concentric coil the 24k comes out cheaper than the GM1000 at $817. Garrett need to hurry and get their version of the concentric coil to market. This is obviously just based off one dealer in the USA's pricing. I know which option I would prefer to have. The 24k price in the USA is very competitive. I didn't pay all that much attention to the Whites 24k as it was too hard to get one. If I had read too much on it I'd end up wanting one 🙂
  5. Similar results to what I saw Jeff, although the #9 lead was within 1 cm of the coil, which is virtually having to touch the coil to get a good response over the noisy threshold, if that and that was in manual 10 and auto+. I think it'd be very rare you'd find a #9 lead pellet with the GPX unless you're a real coil scrubber with very flat ground with no stones or grass to lift the coil off the ground. It'd have to be a fresh landed shot as it doesn't take much for a pellet to sink down 1cm, however in NZ most modern shot is steel which gives a much better response than lead, the lead shot are the older pellets and they tend to be in the soil, not on top of it.
  6. I've only had access to one GPX 6000 and it only detected my #9 lead shot on a stick when it was touching the coil and then only just and only on certain locations of the coil on the left side from memory. The pellet fell off the stick and was lost during this testing so unfortunately it ended there and I was unable to do the recorded video test like I've done with other coils. I need to find another #9 lead shot and start again with every coil as I don't trust all lead shot to react the same. The ones on a stick were sent to me by Geotech for testing purposes so I was very disappointed to lose the #9 off the stick.
  7. I've no doubt the Monster is a good seller around the world, especially in Africa. I was a bit surprised by it being a good seller in Australia as its the butt of a lot of jokes from many Aussies on social media that use PI's, they act like its a kids toy due to not handling the ground very well. I guess it's like anything the squeaky wheel gets the oil, and the happy users have little to complain about so you never hear from them. Garrett need to find a way to lower their pricing in Australasia, there has to be some link in the chain that is adding a significant amount to the cost that can be reduced. It's currently hindering them from being competitive. Now is probably the worst time to try and reduce the price of a product though as International shipping is extremely expensive, even bulk containers the costs have increased significantly. Often in cases like this for certain countries you just can't make the profit you can in others while you work out the kinks. The 24k has made it to the Australian market now, it's $1449 AUD with 44 in stock at the Garrett dealer, the recommended retail for the GM seems to be $1399 AUD but almost all dealers are selling it for around $1100 AUD. So the 24k ended up coming in around the RRP for the GM which would be reasonable, but almost nobody sells it for that price. Given the GM comes with two coils the 24k will struggle to sell at that price. The 24k still has still not made it into NZ but unless the price can be adjusted there is not much point doing so as we generally pay more than Australia for everything being a smaller market with higher shipping costs so it'll be even more expensive by the time it hits here. If the GM and 24k were the same price and the GM had two coils, I'd still personally pick the 24k, it's the significant price difference that's making it hard to take off. It's a shame Minelab owns the market to such a degree people think of them and nobody else, making it difficult for even a better detector to break through as its the end users that end up missing out in the end in a situation like this. I guess for Garrett they need to break into the US prospecting market with it before worrying about the rest of the world, if they can start to gain some traction there it'd help if they do decide to try and grow. They could also start by doing the obvious which I'm sure has been pointed out to them many times and that is working on a more modern light weight PI using their ATX as a starting point. If they sold that at the right price point it would give them a decent boost into the prospecting detector market. Sometimes it's not all about high profit, they need to get it in at the right price, not make a whole lot on it if that's going to cause it to be overpriced as they're trying to gain momentum, at least development costs shouldn't be too high, the electronics is already there. The high profit comes further down the line once they're established in the market, look at Minelab's astronomical profit on their gold detectors, well deserved of course. Someone is going to take over the lower end prospecting PI market soon, at the moment it's a slot that is open for the taking, and some are biting at it's heels, first to the post will likely be the one to reap the rewards. Garrett have an opportunity and a head start.
  8. Did he even catch the ferry across to the island? 🙂 I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Deus 2.
  9. I have a Simplex and just tested it on small targets, yes the vibration goes off on smaller targets, the bigger the target the more it vibrates of course.
  10. A good coil, very sensitive edges unlike the new spiral coils. You can't even buy this coil anymore or any of the advantage series and all the new Nugget Finders except the Sadie are spiral and don't have sensitive edges. So if someone is after a coil with nice sensitive edges for up against rocks and so on, this is a bargain buy.
  11. The GPZ 7000 for me can't detect #9 shot with the standard coil, and can only just detect it near touching the coil when using a smaller coil like an 8" Coil. In a real world situation you wouldn't find much #9 shot, although it will detect it with the smaller coils. Here is how the GPZ responds on a number #4 and #6 lead shot with the standard coil, the GPX 6000 with 11" coil easily beats this. This is with the GPZ settings maxed out which I show in the video. This is how the GPZ responds on the same lead shot pellets when using a much smaller 8" coil, the difference is very noticeable. I've tested every coil I own in the same way and generally the smaller the coil the more sensitive to the smaller pellets, the exception is concentric coils where a 15" coil is very competitive with a 10" coil on small pellets and I believe this is because it has a central receive winding that's quite small giving it good sensitivity. Modern steel shot gives a much better response on every coil than this lead shot does.
  12. I think they'd benefit from a gold detectorist in Australia, that's a market they need to make some headway in, if indeed the GM is a good seller in Australia the 24k should be the better seller if it had the exposure it deserves. Aureous would be my choice, he's done extremely well with his 24k in Australia and has been using one for a long time. Some of his previous posts over the years on here demonstrate how well you can do with a 24k in Australian soil. Although it takes a certain type of person to be a "youtube" personality, I'm not that type of person. I have no interest in doing anything like that.
  13. it looks like you're clenching your mouth shut in those photos Gerry, and you've got a tasty treat in your hands, I can see you were struggling not to fill your yapper! Some serious willpower there.
  14. The problem with new prospecting VLF's is everyone already has a VLF they're reasonably happy with, they're used to using it and it finds them gold. They see little reason to get another. The other problem is they've all been so similar, they'll all find gold to about the same size, micro flakes you have no hope of picking up with your fingers. Usually the reason you'd get a different one is it has features that suit you. Detectors like the Equinox have also made dedicated VLF's for prospecting less necessary and you can get by without even having one and do very well. Where the 24k to me is different is it's handling of the hot rocks, and while I don't have all that difficult ground I can imagine because it handles the hot rocks here better it would handle difficult ground better too? It sounds like from the limited number of users so far in hotter ground that this is the case. Whites struggled to gain any ground with it as the writing was on the wall with them, people expected them to collapse and perhaps were worried about warranty? I wonder if many even thought Whites was capable of a cutting edge detector anymore. Whites never really did much in the way of marketing and promotion of it. It was released and just blended in to existing detectors, there wasn't a flurry of information about it and a bunch of people using it showing people what it's capable of. Garrett has made some changes to the electronics since the Whites design, I'm not sure what they changed and I've never used the Whites version of it but one thing is for sure their coils will likely be better if for no other reason the way they're manufactured would improve them. Tboykin said he cringed when he went into the coil assembly area at Whites, very dated. What Garrett needs to do is let people know whats different about it over the competition, why they should buy it. The ground balance is the obvious difference to me that even in my mild ground have found to be fantastic, the way it works and the fact you can lock it. It has a gold meter up the top of the screen to tell iron and possible gold targets and also has target ID, although the Target ID scale is different to that of a coin machine but still goes up to 99, I guess adjusted for gold targets. The vSAT is also a good feature that I'm experimenting with at the moment, it can boost the sensitivity even higher. It has non-motion pinpoint, adjustable threshold, Ground grab and ground balance lock, adjustable discrimination and a Tone ID mode, and all of that and you don't really need to use any of it as a beginner, you can just turn it on and use it like a Gold Monster, but if you need settings you've got them. Having the battery box like it does makes for a quite well balanced detector too. They really need to focus on the lack of bump sensitivity with the 24k, as the Minelab's are plagued with that, the 24k is not. Sure you can lower the sensitivity and fiddle around to lower the bump sensitivity on the Minelabs but you can run the 24k flat out and have virtually no bump sensitivity. That's a huge plus as each time you set the detector off by bumping the coil you're potentially missing gold, they're like false signals and if you get enough of them you expect them and occasionally one of the false signals may have been a nugget and you dismissed it as just another bump. Another big plus to the 24k is the coils, at the moment the range isn't all that big, and those lucky enough to get Whites coils have the 6.5" Concentric which is a brilliant coil, there was also the 4x6" DD and 8x14" DD, I wish I had those two coils, I could put that 8x14"DD to use straight away. Garrett just has the 6x10" DD so far, great coil too, no bump sensitivity and a nice solid design. Nel has also indicated they're making coils for it, although they're already overdue, but that seems normal for Nel.
  15. Love the stable Target ID's on the Deus, the Nokta was jumpy as I expected after my Simplex experience. The Deus ID's look to be as stable as the Nox. Very promising. I like what I see.
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