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    Looking for Gold Nuggets and Silver coins.
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    GPZ/X-Coils, Algoforce, Garrett 24k, GPX5k, CTX3030, ATGold, Ace300i, Nox800, Manticore, Vanquish540, GPX 6000, Sphinx 03, Carrot Gear Not Used: Simplex+, NF Z-Search, GBP, GB2, GM, T2, Deus, Mi4

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  1. Because I've been using it lately for coins and jewellery, 87 coiins so far, 32 of which were silver. I tried bigger coils, and found I was able to achieve similar depth with a 12" coil, as I could with a 15" coil on a coin The different modes such as normal gold and large gold do provide depth benefits over using the Ultra fine and Fine gold modes using these bigger coils, but there comes a point where putting on a bigger coil doesn't provide any benefit. What I'm saying is pointless is throwing something like a 20" coil on it and expecting to get dramatic depth increases over using something like a 15" coil. It's just not that sort of detector. I was going to do a post on it as a coin detector, but perhaps it's not worth it as clearly giving information can be unappreciated.
  2. I think the best thing someone could do in this instance so they can understand for themselves how a detector will perform with different coils is to bury something like a larger nugget if they have one or even a lump of lead sinker from a fishing line, and see how deep they get it with a smaller coil, and then a larger coil and compare to other detectors. It's very easy and quick to see the depth differences on offer with different detectors. For me the GPZ and GPX 5000 provide greater depth advantages with larger coils than others, including the Algoforce. I'd love to be able to say I have seen the results with gold, sadly that's not the case as I don't find big gold, however I will say I've found a 4-gram nugget with the 8" Coil on the GPZ deeper than I can pick the same nugget up with the Algoforce with a 12" round coil on it. I found the QED a good example of this, by having adjustable pulse rates you could adjust it to pick up small gold well, but it suffered with deeper targets as a result, adjust it up for the deeper targets and small targets suffered.
  3. If you can pick out which episode it is let me know. Episodes | Gold Rush: Dave Turin's Lost Mine | Discovery You can click where it says Season 4 to go back through the older seasons episode lists.
  4. Was it this show? Dave Turns Lost Mines I would have access to it if I knew the episode.
  5. JW kindly passed on a few photos, his total gold from the day plus a photo of me detecting a slope, no gold on this one though ๐Ÿ™‚ I circled me in the photo. He found the smaller bits, that little 10x5" coil is a powerhouse.
  6. Yep, 11" stock, great coil except a bit noisy and reliability issues which seem resolved. Not often I'd recommend a Minelab GPX stock coil ๐Ÿ™‚ but the 6000 one is really good when you have a good one.
  7. I have a 15" prototype X-coil Concentric and while it doesn't calibrate it appears to work fine. These coils were designed for detectors with DD Coil support which they need to run as a Concentric. They can run as a Mono in mono mode on the GPX 5000, in my case the 15" CC X-coil runs in mono mode on the Algoforce, although it won't calibrate it seems to work pretty good. The naming of the coils like 18x18 is more for your benefit to know which coil, it makes no difference to the detector, you could do a 1x1 on a 20x20, makes no difference. I would wait and see what happens with firmware updates to the Algoforce, they may improve coil support for unusual coils, but really, the detector was designed around mono coils.
  8. I'd rather a 6.5 x 3.5 solid coil like the Legend now has from Nel with the Nel Snake coil. NEL Snake for Nokta & Makro: The Legend - Search coils NEL (nel-coils.com) Put this coil on the Mantcore and you likely have one of the best if not the best gold prospecting VLF's ever made for tiny gold. Combine that with the existing super sensitive coils like the M8 and 11", even the 15x12" is really good on small gold. This Manticore has so much potential to be the best there is, it's missing this one coil size to top it off.
  9. Yes, there are massive lakes in the area, I drive half an hour at about 62 mph along the side of one to get to this spot, and that's not even half the lake length, it's called the Lakes district ๐Ÿ™‚ It had glaciers all over the place, still does have some but much smaller ones now, this area we were detecting in was a big glacier at one point. From Bing search. "An inventory of South Island glaciers compiled in the 1980s indicated there are about 3,155 glaciers with an area of at least one hectare (2.5 acres). Approximately one sixth of these glaciers covered more than 10 hectares." It does indeed have little lines all going the same direction through the smooth surface, it looks like it's wet it's that shiny but it's not. I can't get a good photo of it, well one that shows how it really looks. Tilt it on an angle to show the sheen of it and it gets too glossy to see, and straight on doesn't show the shine. We aren't called the Shaky Isles for nothing, no shortage of earthquakes and faulting here. The 10x5" would be a better choice in the area due to it being deeper on smaller gold, which seems to be the gold we are finding in the area. I don't like to use the term more sensitive as much with the 6000 as the 11" will hit gold as small as the 10x5", so it's not so much sensitivity, it's depth on the sizes of gold and the smaller coils seem to hit the tiny bits deeper, which you would expect. I'm betting the 10x5" would give a better response to the piece of gold I was quite disappointed in the performance of the 6000 with, something I'd like to see, I can't do like I did with the Algoforce and just turn it on in my house and try it out though as the GPX just makes all crazy sounds ๐Ÿ˜› Only the Algo can be tested in a house like that.
  10. Yep, it's very unrealistic, the shows' primary purpose is going to be selling prospecting equipment to new comers that think they'll strike it rich. They were using Minelab detectors, one guy the GPZ and Dave Turin had a brand spanking new Gold Monster, so white was its coil it near blinded me, that things never touched the soil and no doubt at the end of the episode they could put it back in the box and sell it as new. Notice something missing? Dave doesn't even have anything to dig a hole, no digging equipment at all, just some gloves in his pocket so maybe he's going to dig by hand. Like all of these shows they're for entertainment purposes, and very unrealistic. They make it all sound so easy and if you spend a few bucks and get a detector you'll have fistfuls of gold in no time. Nothing in the credits about thanks to Minelab or anything though, and Dave does wear a Garrett hat later in the episode, and the hat looks like it's been around for a while, so not handed to him for the show like the Gold Monster was ๐Ÿ™‚ It was quite good to watch to see a bit of America, it seems strange pulling nuggets out of that grass paddock like that though, wish we could have nice flat grass paddocks like that here to detect ๐Ÿ™‚
  11. Yep, I like the 10x5" and 11" best out of my GPX 6000 coils, which are the 10x5" Coiltek, 12x7" NF, 11" and 14x9" Coiltek.
  12. A new TV Series has just started, Americas Backyard Gold. It has Dave Turin from Gold Rush with the idea being teaching people how to find gold with sluices, pans, metal detectors and the like. "In recent years, new gold has been uncovered in California due to heavy storms and flooding. From picking nuggets out of rivers, to metal detecting rare gold worth millions, Dave Turin shows you how and where everyday miners can find it." I've seen the first episode so far and I guess the metal detector manufacturers and those selling prospecting equipment are going to love it, it's going to bring in new to prospecting people in big numbers to the USA just like Aussie Gold Hunters did in Australia. A little rundown video of it. They sure make it sound and look easy in the episode.
  13. I'm guessing as it's a detector geared towards finding the smaller nuggets there is little point running a 17 or 20" round mono on it, much like the SDC with larger coils, a pointless exercise. If you want big deep gold with big coils, it's not the right detector to use. Even the 6000 is a small coil detector and bigger coils like a 17" round or 20" round are pointless, its biggest is the Minelab 17x13" so 13" wide, the NF was going to be a 16x10" so in theory the stock 11" could likely beat it for depth on some targets. These sort of detectors are just not the choice for big deep gold with big coils, if the Algoforce E2500 comes out, maybe it will be the big deeper gold detector for larger coils. They would recommend larger coils if you're chasing that as you'll have more hope than with smaller coils, I'd say ๐Ÿ™‚ Unlike the GPX 6000 they can't limit the sizes you can throw on it, there are just so many GPX 5000 coils available. If anything, the statement they added above should give you a clear indication this is a detector based upon finding smaller gold or shallower big gold and that's exactly what it is.
  14. Most of us are used to the waits with Minelab VLF's, waiting a year for them to get stock of detectors and coils isn't even unusual with them, I believe people are still trying to get coils that were released a long time ago now for the Manticore as they trickle them out to dealers in batches of 3 ๐Ÿ˜› I don't think Algoforce expected the popularity, although it was an untapped market, a cheaper good performing PI detector, but something people have been banging on about for years was needed, the first to do it reaps the rewards, plenty of people don't want to allocate the Minelab pricing for a fun hobby, those not overly serious about prospecting who don't think they'd get value out of the significant investment in a GPX or GPZ.
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