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I ran the coil backwards on the AT pro I used to have and it made a difference. 
I didn’t think the equinox or legend were bad enough to do it. But it sure helped the pro so I would think it would make some difference. The coil doesn’t know it’s on backwards. lol

Nice review Captian Jeff! I would be interested in setting up that disc pattern you are using if you wouldn’t mind posting it. Thanks! Tom

1 hour ago, cjc said:

The tone (having extension) meter (not too "wild)" and the Ferrachec are a good combination to keep you off the iron and caps.  When you hear a broken tone and see big meter changes on the cross  sweep--the Ferrachec confirms it.  Maybe not definitive, but a good clue amongst the others.  I  think it's important to get a feel for how deep it goes though in that there's a point where using basic target testing skills become the go to.   There's also the "too wide a sweep" margin for error. 

cjc

cjc ,exactly! There are a lot of clues given that when you pick up on them will sure help out.

 You’re absolutely right about the to wide a sweep. When I’m working a target the sweep widths get smaller and smaller till I can zero in on the location of the target. The old minelab wiggle so to speak lol. Normally I like to wiggle off the target. There’s info there too when the coil comes off the target. You have to do that with the deus1 or you’ll dig a ton of bottle caps. 
Thanks for the info. Good luck and HH!

On 4/23/2022 at 3:45 PM, Jeff McClendon said:

I couldn’t agree more.

I also don’t understand the negativity aimed at the FerroCheck feature by some unless it is coming from a lack of time using the Legend.

It works very well within the limits that Nokta Makro set for it. Is it perfect…of course not. Is it reliable contrary to what a very famous YouTuber is claiming? It has been very reliable for me on iron targets, steel alloy targets and non-ferrous targets that are giving strong enough signals to be in range of this feature’s capabilities.

I have hunted trashy parks on purpose with the Legend for the past 3 weeks. My non-ferrous to mixed alloy/ferrous ratio of recovered targets per hunt is around 60 non-ferrous to 1 or 2 ferrous and those are usually deeper iffy targets that turn out to be rusted iron nails that were out of range anyway. I have dug 4 rusted bottle caps in 3 weeks of almost daily hunts that fooled me. That is out of more than 800 targets recovered with the Legend during that time in thick bottle cap/pull tab trashed areas.

Where I detect, that effective range is between 4 and 5” depth on coin sized objects which is plenty for the average steel crown bottle cap trashed sites around here. I have used several other detectors that cost up to double the price of the Legend that are not nearly as reliable for  distinguishing shallower steel alloy trash….

I have not been able to use it yet for gold prospecting or large iron relic hunting.

I expect FerroCheck will be even better with the user adjustable iron bias settings coming soon.

Well done Nokta Makro.

 That’s awesome Jeff! I’m really enjoying learning the Legend. I will most likely never use it on the beach or in the gold fields so for my hunting locations it’s proving to be a great machine. 

On 4/23/2022 at 10:10 PM, Tahts-a-dats-ago said:

I made it a point to pay attention to the ferro-check today. I went to what is probably my most difficult permission. This location has had human activity (not counting natives) dating back to the late 1600's. Over time there has been a glass house (glass slag all over the property), a blacksmith, a slaughterhouse, a timber mill, a feed mill, a junk yard, and a mechanic shop (he worked on boats and vehicles). The current owner (a friend) grew up on the property - his father had the mechanic shop and what was essentially a junk yard (scrap metal, vehicles, engines, etc..). That's the history that I am aware of.

The soil is fairly mild (2-3 bars on the Deus mineral meter) but so chock full of bits and pieces of various metals that I don't bother trying to ground balance. The metal pieces run the gamut - square nails, iron bits, brass, copper, tin, aluminum, etc.. There is so much trash in the ground that I don't believe I've ever dug a target that didn't have some sort of metal trash in the hole.

The area that I hunted today (maybe 15 X 30 feet) must have been a burn pile, or perhaps a building had burned down at some point in the past. Around 6 inches (give/take) down it is clear that everything was burned, and in sections there is a lot of what looks like lump charcoal (forget what it ID's at, but it gives a nice mid tone) 4+ inches below the surface. There is a heavy layer of fist-sized and smaller rocks ranging from 4-6 inches below the surface over most of that small area.

I never try for depth on this permission, because all the metal trash makes depth an impossible thing. 

I dug every target that gave a good tone (even 1-way)(provided the target isn't large) as I always do at this location. But this time I paid attention to the ferro-check. I never had a signal that didn't show at least 1 bar in the ferro-check meter, but that's because there was some sort of [ferrous] metal trash in with the "good" targets. I say "good" because a number of those "good" targets were brass, copper, or aluminum. I did dig some targets that the ferro-check filled halfway or better - all were ferrous junk. They were, at best, very iffy tones to begin with.

From what I saw today, the ferro-check is a pretty effective tool down to a depth of 5 inches or so. I didn't dig anything deeper so I can't really say just how deep the ferro-check can be effective.

I continue to be impressed with the capabilities of the Legend. In spite of the claims made by some, it does very well in trashy sites.

So why do I bother with a location that has that kind of metal trash?

There's silver in there. 

Today's take, after about 3 hours of hunting, was 3 Wheats, 2 copper memorials, and a Merc. I also dug a small compact that dates from 1920 - 1925. The brass and copper items were donated to a friend who saves that stuff for recycling at the local scrapyard.

 

Very nice write up Tahts!  Looking forward to hearing about more of your ferro check thoughts and thoughts in general using the information the legend is providing. 
Thanks!

Really cool find! Congrats!!

What I’m really wanting to see is someone else post where they’ve found something good with a little two way wiggle one spot ferro check nonferrous signal. I’m starting to loose count and liking the Legend more every time I dig one. 

21 minutes ago, JCR said:

Congratulations! Those are all very nice. The Legend seems to really like mid conductors.

Thanks! I think it likes non ferrous. lol  Only two barber dimes so far but a lot of wheats. Indians are kinda a higher mid conductor and it’s found me a handful of those. I’m hoping for something gold but I’ve not found much of that anyway… but I’m at least digging more possible gold signals now. 🤔 maybe I’ll get lucky!😁

I finally made it to the park here in town where the last fighting was done before the Union headed on to the next town by night fall back in 1861. It’s given up a lot of relics over the years but finding one there now is a rarity. Today was a special day for me and although it’s not much the guys who still hunt it know what kind of day I had. 
 I’m gonna say it again that ferro check is awesome!! Found the carbine bullet first then the Buffalo. Little farther along under a big rock out comes the round ball. Heading back towards the car and it was one of those only in one spot signals but the ferro check said non ferrous so I dug it and wow! A nice eagle button! I was stoked! Three civil war relics and a Buffalo. Happy day for me.😁

Prayers for your wife and you. 

I also would like to say that one bullet I remember for sure was a deeper target that I could not get a four way hit on and there was no ferro check reading. I simply used the same thought process of the sounds  and numbers that I had heard earlier with the ferro check reading. I think learning that sounds/numbers correlation helped in making the decision to dig the target. Which in this case was another bullet. 
 I have also dug a lot of the other but the ferro check has certainly helped the learning process along a bunch!

I’ve got the six inch coil ordered but the eleven inch is doing very good for now. 
It’s funny why we chose to hunt a certain location over and over. I know going in that I probably won’t find much but I know there’s stuff there but I’ll have to work for it. The one I’ve been hunting pretty hard is an old house site that’s a hay field now and it’s getting close to a wait till they cut the hay. I’m thinking about maybe letting it cool off till next year.
  I’ve spent a lot of time there with the legend. It seemed a good place to learn the machine. A lot of iron in places and a lot of junk everywhere. lol Its where I really learned what the legend could pick out of iron. I’ve got some good finds there but a lot of what I’m digging are the mid tones. Shot gun head stamps, broken pieces of you name it but they were non ferrous and that’s what I’m looking for. I keep thinking maybe just maybe I’ll find a gold ring or something gold anyway. Hasn’t happened…yet! lol

At least four of these bullets would only hit good in one spot as I circled the target but in that spot the ferro check said non ferrous. I went to an old church that I’ve dug a lot of deeper targets. I didn’t get any deeper targets but did dig two wheats that were the same way as the bullets and they were both over five inches.  There are tells when digging a target like that. Watch for the wrap around numbers and the sound when you’ve  found a target like that. Both will alert you that it’s not good. There’s a difference trying to make a two way only target out to be good and actually getting the right sounds and numbers for it to say dig me. The Legend does very well at giving you the information to make that decision. With some trial and error(a lot of holes) you’ll see and hear what I’m referring to. 

I would like to say that the ferro check is a great feature on the legend. I have found it to be very accurate in recognizing a nonferrous target mixed in with iron. I’ve been running the legend on a recovery speed of only three and it’s ability to locate good targets mixed in with iron is quite impressive. 
 
 

Rick, I always ran my equinox in five tones but have run the legend in sixty tones and I’m really liking it. I especially like the sound you get on a deep coin with recovery set on three. HH! Tom

Sweet! A lot of good finds makes for a really fun hunt. Congrats!

Awesome find! Congratulations!!

Nice finds ands cool pics!

2 hours ago, Suncoast Kid said:

I really like it too, probably more than some of my others. I think it has potential, but I will be glad to get past all these updates, and when the bugs get worked out. Seems it was released too early. 

I know what ya mean but I remember getting updates for my equinox and the deus1 has had a bunch over the years then there’s the deus2 that had one that didn’t work right and had to have another to fix it. I’m just glad they are able to update the newer machines to fix things. lol 

It kept mine. 

Strick,

    I retired from the park and rec dept. and let me just say I’ve seen that sight so many times in the twenty five plus years I worked there. People can be…well, just imagine what I’m thinking and you’re probably right. lol  (hint: it’s not good) Good luck!

Really liking the legend! Good depth and separation!

Done, now just need to go hunt. The glitch I was having is gone!

4 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

You are probably aware of this and already investigated, but just in case -- there was an overdate (8/7) from Denver that year.  If you haven't investigated, the PCGS website should have plenty of photos for comparison.  The Cherrypickers' Guide estimates 250 or fewer survive (PCGS also has the number they've certified and survival estimates although the latter doesn't seem to make sense sometimes).  It's a longshot, but occasionally those hit. 

GB,

   I did check it out and I couldn’t see any evidence of the overdate. Thanks for the heads up. Tom

Just the settings icons more visible 

perhaps a low value light that comes on when you push the settings button and goes off when you exit the settings menu would help