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Hey Lunk, great post! I appreciate your honest settings and tips after many, many hours in the NV gold fields with the ZED. I'll try to use them during the RP training session with Gerry and his team later this month. Hope to see you there,
Bill
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Jason, great gold from RP! It's interesting how the different settings can reduce EMI and the ground noise. How deep were the bits and did you notice any major loss of depth when using the High Audio Smoothing? I see you're still running the Sens at 18!
Bill
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Steve, what a fantastic post...that's why I visit this forum daily. I printed the PDF out, so this old dog can learn some new tricks.
Bill
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Rob, great nugget and thanks for the video. The GPZ can really punch deep on the larger nuggets!
Bill
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Rob mentioned he was bringing some in, just not sure what they will cover and look like. The Aussies products seem to do a better job of protecting everything which is important to me to protect my new investment! Jason, I'm looking for something also...let me know if you find something. Steve's idea is made in USA and priced reasonably...just needs some mods.
Bill
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Lunk, I also just got off the phone with Gerry and we discussed your finds in NV. Great gold Lunk. Maybe we can meet up later to find some of that beautiful chevron gold with the GPZ!
Bill
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JP, I just purchased the B & Z Model SE-10.1 for my SDC 2300. Can I use that booster on my new GPZ-7000? Thanks for all your help and we know you're busy finding some amazing gold with the GPZ!
Bill
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Great thoughts on the GPZ 7000 Old Sandy. Your comments and professional opinions are welcomed here. I only wish the Aussie forums could come around and have a more positive conversation on the GPZ.
Bill
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Found this on another forum....Jen found the 51 grammer.
Bill
http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t20985-had-doubts-but-not-anymore
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There is a signal from the GPX - JP mentions it himself in the video. But it is extremely weak.
The problem with video of course is people see what they want to see. If the desire is to see proof the GPZ is better, that is what you see. If you are skeptical of the GPZ, you see a dozen reasons why the GPX could have done better. It is one big reason I am not very excited about doing video myself.
For instance if you want to go down the rabbit hole you can just go with the possibility that maybe all the GPX needed was a 16" mono. The GPZ has no coil options at this time. Or if the GPZ hits a small specimen, you can mention that the GPX may have hit it with a small coil. Or different timings.
What gets overlooked is that the GPZ is doing what the GPX can do with a bigger coil, or a smaller coil, or different timings, all at once with one setting and one coil. Yeah, I think the GPX in multiple passes with multiple coils and different settings can give a GPZ with a single setting and coil a run for the money in many cases. As long as you have time to hit the same ground multiple times. And even then, the GPZ will hit some gold a GPX just can't hit.
Any light bulbs?
For me pounding old patches is fine and dandy, but my personal use of the GPX is going to be for patch hunting and knowing that I have the best shot first time no matter what in a single pass of getting what is there. I am going to spend most of my time this summer detecting on ground that has hopefully never seen a coil, and it will see mine just once.
Honestly though, if you have a GPX 5000 and a bunch of coils and know which timings to use and a SDC 2300 and the time to apply it all in various combinations, then you are pretty well set, and no burning need to get a GPZ 7000.
Steve, great indepth thoughts about JPs video (Happy Birthday JP). I came to the same conclusion indirectly 2 weeks ago:
"Honestly though, if you have a GPX 5000 and a bunch of coils and know which timings to use and a SDC 2300 and the time to apply it all in various combinations, then you are pretty well set, and no burning need to get a GPZ 7000."
When I go out detecting I usually only have 1 - 3 days in a large area and don't have the time and knowledge it takes to apply all the timings in various combinations. So my decision was easy and JP answered my only open question....I sold the GPX with 11 coils and have ordered the GPZ!
Bill
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Once again Steve does an outstanding job explaining all the details on a new detector! Looking forward to more field tests and results from areas pounded by other detectors. Convinced me to sell my GPX-5000 and order a GPZ-7000.
Bill
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Steve, just read your Treasure Talk post...excellent test and review! Can't wait to hear more.
Bill
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I thought I would only have to sell a couple of my detectors...may have to clear out the closet and keep only 3 units(All ML).
Bill
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Jason, from what I've seen with my own eyes and my SDC, and heard from the Pros...the SDC 2300 does have better performance on tiny, spongy, and specimen types of gold. The GPX 5000 with an 8" mono or 8" x 6" Sadie coil will find many small bits...but the SDC 2300 has a performance gain and sometimes the GPX cannot even see the gold! I'm a believer in the SDC 2300 and looking forward to the GPZ 7000. ML continues to impress me,
Bill
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Steve, what is the larger coil you're going to use on your new F75 Ltd2 in the trashy tailings and cobble piles? I'm curious as I may have to get one larger than the 11" DD stock coil also!
Bill
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Any idea of when the black and gold F19 will be available...I might want to wait on this sharp unit!
Bill
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Steve, I didn't mean to tease you with the F19, but this looks like a hot prospecting machine! Now I want one too.
Bill
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Steve, I just watched Keith Southern's video on the F19:
That unit is a definite performer at 19 kHZ, great V-break, hot with a 5 x 10" DD coil and good air sensitivity. When will you be getting one for gold prospecting?
Bill
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Congrats Steve you deserve it! Can't wait to read the story, again, makes me want to head North. Looks like it's time for Steve to head up a group outing...anybody else in?
Bill
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This is just the kind of discussion I was interested in and many of my questions have been answered. I really appreciate Steve's insight and knowledge of iron volume, V-break, "to dig or not to dig" thoughts, etc. Most of us just do what the detector tells us to do...it's just not that simple! So we just keep buying the latest and greatest detector as a magic bullet to calm down our gold fever. I'm going to "nominate" Steve as our detector tester/reviewer and make purchasing decisions based on his detailed analysis. Do I hear a second?
Bill
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"I am seeing similar situations here down south, especially in California. Places where 150 years of mining has left ferrous trash galore. What I am looking for is a way to narrow things down a bit in some situations. The idea in some places with unknown potential is to scout first with the VLF, and then, if any gold is found, to switch to a PI and hammer the spot.."
I had the same thoughts while working a trashy tailing pile in AK this summer...what is the best way to work an area where the GPX-5000 finds tons of targets and they are mostly deep ferrous targets. I was worn out digging railroad spikes at 18"- 24". I tried a VLF, but got frustrated very quickly. Is there a basic setup for VLFs or one superior VLF that can be used to make it easier for searching trashy areas?
The only basic setting I've heard of are to adjust the discrimination to just allow a nickel to be heard. Other ideas are to just set the discrimination to a certain number and dig everything that comes through. My test nugget was no help!
Steve, I'm sure you have a better system that we could all use.
Bill
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Steve, once again you have provided the detecting world with your professional, unbiased, indepth reporting. Minelab is a great company that spends millions on R&D. Their results can be found on many of the forums, not just some gold, but lots of it all over the world. Sure they don't have the cheapest metal detectors available, but sometimes you just have to go big or go home. When I went to Alaska this year, Minelab detectors beat everything else being used during the week! I don't buy any detector without first reading your reviews.
I also just wanted to say Thank You! for providing us with the best knowledge based writing on real metal detecting adventures. Your Wade Creek stories of 2013 - 2014 are just amazing with lots of pictures and historical information. I felt like was sitting in the passenger seat for all 11,519 miles of your 2014 trip. Thanks to your story, I just bought an SDC 2300. Keep up the great work.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to you and your family.
Bill Moore
Laporte, CO.
A Bit Over An Ounce Of GPZ Yellow
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Jason, great looking gold...save some for me! Keep stretching and excercising your back so you can get back out there. I'll be there on the 23rd. Save a piece of good looking gold for me to buy. Get well soon,
Bill