bigtim1973

I would get the deus 2. I have not had or ever used the eq 900 but have used the first generation eq600. 

The ergonomics and recovery speed of the deus 2 to me makes it worth it. 

It is very light weight and goes deep. 

As far as coil size goes the XP 9 inch coil can keep up with the best of them and goes very deep. 

The large display if the eq series is very nice. 

I like the 0 to 99 tid numbering system if the xp units. 

i am not sure if the new eq 700 and eq 900 do that. 

It just makes it a little easier to cherry pick and sich with a broader number spectrum.

With all of this being said......i sm sure you would be happy with either one of them. 

I like Nokta and Minelab. The xterra when it first hit the scene was one of the first units to just offer a number ID only readout that was large and easy to see. 

I found some of my favorite finds with the xterra 50. 

I am looking forward to the new xterra and will be purchasing one. 

I liked the eq series as well but when I had one of those I used it in SF mode only for the most part. 

I think for what the new xterra offers....it will put a pretty good smack on a lot of the competition.

And from what I have saw on youtube....the lucky fellows who has tried one out already on the beach....it seems to run pretty stable on the wet sand. 

For a cool unit under 300 bucks.....I think i would rather have that than just about anything out there in the same price range.

Coil it be iron falsing?

 

I encountered the same thing yesterday but I knew it was iron falsing.

 

Try the sane place in single frequency deus mono and see what happens

I started out with it to get a feel of the unit and get used to the machines responses and all. 

 

 

Worked good but now mostly use a modified  program 4 fast. 

 

I just like the way program 4 responds and so far I have discovered it is fairly deep as well. 

 

 

First signal I dug with my deus 2 on general was a nickel on edge about 6 inches deep. 

 

 

It locked on good and proved itself on that first dig. 

 

 

Like I mentioned now though....I use program 4 with full tones and the square audio. 

 

Have set the recovery to 2.5. 

 

 

Will go lower when needed. 

 

No disc or notch settings. 

 

Love it.

On 9/17/2022 at 3:50 AM, Wayfarer said:

I still think the V3i is the best advanced SMF detector ever made, primarily because of this ability.  The newer detectors all do their analyzing via a “black box” of secret algorithms while the V3i gives the power over to the user and lets the user decide.  For example, I love how you can identify multiple closely spaced targets by watching how the response of each frequency changes in all metal pinpoint mode as you slowly sweep the target.  Subsequent designs dumb this down and try to do everything within the “black box.” Good for beginner users who don’t care to bother to understand the underlying tech.  The V3i demands more from its user but the reward is worth it.   That said, my MXT is still a great performer and is single freq.
 

It was a sad day when White’s killed further development of the V3i.  

I agree with the mxt but I did not have as good of experience with the v3i units I had...my regular deus performed much better than my v3i units did.

I wanted to like it very much because I loved the screen and the xy graphic but it just couldn't cut the mustard. 

However I never tried the 6x10dd coil on it....I am sure it would have had a narrower foot print signal over the d2 coil. 

1 hour ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

I think the WS6 Master rig was intended to offer a functional lower cost Deus 2 unit to compete with the cheaper SMF detectors. I think XP pulled it off and it does offer a surprising amount of features for the price. That's more than I would have expected.

Especially since the eq 600 and eq 800 prices have gone up since their debute...the ws6 master offers way more adjustments to save and is priced right between those eq models. 

 

It was a good move by xp.

1 hour ago, midalake said:

Try to take that puck in and around water............

It can go in that bag they sell  around you neck and with your own headphones should be good to go. 

 

But one thing I think people are missing out on is the fact that the ws6 deus 2 lite master set up was never intended to be the do everything   the deus 2 does and it isn't going to either. 

 

 

Even though everyone wants it to....why would xp do that with their flagship unit?

 

 

To me it is more like the ultimate lite weight turn on and go unit. 

 

Even though it saves settings and all......you cannot name the saved program on the ws6 but it still saves your settings....plus have all of the audio options as well. 

 

 

I think the deus lite and the new deus master units were designed more for guys who search open fields for relics and old settlements who do not nessarily want to worry about notch, target ID numbers or graphic screens. 

 

 

But so far I find it to be a great set up.

 

 

 

The puck set up is a great little set up. 

 

 

It offers a very good range of features for what it does....smf in a small package and with the large tid numbers available now being similar in size as the deus 1 numbers were....it is much larger than the deus 1 lite ws4 ID screen. 

It does everything I need it to for my detecting needs.

 

 

I do not use notch at all hardly and as far as the xy screen goes....i would rather use that in the full remote.

 

However  after reading the comments posted....I can see where individual notching numbers would be a good idea. 

 

An xy screen on the ws6.......I guess if your vision is great it might work ok. 

 

I bought the deus 2 for the large id numbers in the .71 upgrade 

 

 

Here I am fiddling with the ws6 master set up too with the wsaii backphones....it really works great for the type of detecting I do for relic hunting. 

 

 

Around old home sites and such.....I want the full remote. 

 

 

In a park environment the upgraded notch would come in handy for the jewelry hunters....but I do not think XP is going to offer every available option on the ws6.

 

 

It is a lower price point machine. 

 

 

I would take it over many other units out there in a heart beat myself.

 

 

 

Nothing....... you can set it to whatever you wish. 

 

 

Now if there is a lot of small pieces of iron and all then you may want to raise it some to get rid of the small grunts in a high trash area. 

7 hours ago, relicmeister said:

Glad you like the Deus 2, Tim. I’ve pared-down to just the Deus 2 and it is serving me well. I’ve also made good finds at sites that stopped producing, some of them being great finds. My preferred programs are sensitive full and I’m increasingly using fast. I’m looking for ideas for custom relic programs, as of present I have one- using sensitive FT and the XY screen. Good luck as you use it more and at good sites 

Sent you a pm 

On 9/8/2022 at 9:29 PM, ByTheLake said:

Congratulations on your Deus 2 purchase.  I am enjoying mine, and the machine has performed quite well any place I take it, including under water.  I currently have it with me while travelling in Peru.

I added the WSA2 headphones to allow me to use the WS6 puck as the master remote.  I've tested it but haven't actually hunted with it yet, but wow, it's quite light in that configuration.

Enjoy your D2.

What type of relics and coins are you digging up in peru

I have sae the same from a dealer online. 

So I called him and he told me the units he has like that were unregistered returns that the customer decided they didn't want. 

So yes it can be a great deal for sure. 

Surprised to see all of the responses!!

Well I was looking to get another unit and found one today at my local pawn shop. 

Tesoro silver Sabre umax!!

I cannot believe they even had a detector to begin with.

i used to swing the silver Sabre umax with the 6 inch white coil pretty regularly. 

Sold it to a friend several years back and always wanted another one. 

So I started this thread for some ideas. Was looking at analog machines again for a back up.....primarily at the deeptech Vista line. 

But since I came across this one today....I guess I will hold onto it for a while. 

So now primarily xp deus 2 and my back up is the silver Sabre umax!!!

Kind of a strange combo!!

I primarily purchased the deus 2 for the large target ID option on the .71 update. 

 

 

The one I received did not have that installed. 

 

 

I installed it and it went like a piece of cake. 

 

 

Started out just using program 1 the general. 

 

 

Just to get a feel for it. 

 

 

It did very well and I dug up several coins at my mother on laws backyard. 

 

Have swung a tion of units back there. Just your typical 1970s house. 

 

 

I did it to see if there was anything left. 

 

 

Found about 8 coins and a hot wheels car right off the bat. 

 

Found several nickels back there too. First one was on edge and it locked on 61 with no varying tid numbers. 

 

Was about 8 inches deep 

 

 

Power lines near by and it ran very quiet. 

 

 

There is a little spot with lots of small bits of iron. 

 

 

It went off on iron with some false halos on the edge of the coil but no where near as what an equinox would do. 

 

 

I switched over to fast and I found that it is deeper than the deus 1 fast. 

 

 

Found a 1950s wheat at my old farm house yesterday. 

 

Small spot right off of the front step where I have swung over 10 different machines including some friends who have swung theirs there too. 

 

 

I know i walked over that wheat several times before.....and none of them ever sounded off on it. 

 

 

Was about 7 inches deep in hard packed ground where cars are parked since 1949. 

 

 

Very pleased with the deus 2. 

 

 

Have let go of my deus 1 and now only have the deus 2. 

 

Due to family circumstances....I am not able to take it out on a regular hunt for the time being. 

Cannot wait until I take it out on a real site. 

Excellent  machine!!

 

 

So like the topic goes....if you use one machine for the most part and have a backup unit....which one do you use and why???

Curious at what older machines may pop up.

That is a great first run with your ws6 set up.

 

How did you find the depth compared to the original deus??

 

 

Did you buy this set up as a lite configuration or did you get the full deus set up with the ws6 backphones??

 

Are you in the UK??

 

The deus package I purchased was with the wsii wireless backphones. 

 

 

I was initially wanting a deus 2 lite and was going to keep my deus 1 but since they did not offer that configuration yet here for sale....I just bought the package i mentioned. 

 

Am now selling my deus 1. 

 

I have used program 1 general and program 4 fast. 

 

 

i find the fast program on the deus 2 deeper than on the original deus 1.

 

 

i like the full tone option with square audio. 

 

I find it more pleasant to the ears. 

 

Pm sent

Saw on the XP facebook page a new banner with the ws6 lite package on the lite style control handle. 

 

 

There was a detector rally in the UK with the xp booth introducing the ws6 slave set up. 

 

 

I tried to contact xp metal detectors but their auto reply info sends a link to a local dealer in my area. He doesn't know when it will be available either. 

 

 

Has anyone got a clue on when it will be available for purchase here in the sates??

When I am in iron.....I dig everything above iron.

I do not particularly worry about vdi numbers....due to the fact a coin next to iron will not always give correct tone id. 

So ......for the most part in trashy iron areas....I just dig all the good signals.....whether they turn out to be good or not......it is all just a crap shoot.

If you ask me it means more emi interference for sure. 

Just listen to the thing when they turn it on in this video. 

Sounds like a flock of robotic chickens to me. 

https://youtu.be/i1CkFKAAJqk

Have you got an original deus shaft set up?

 

I am not sire either as I do not have my scale here where I am

Jeff I am sorry to hear about your foot. Hope you are better soon. 

.I have always enjoyed reading your experiences. 

It didn't really matter to me which one you chose to keep.....however I enjoy reading why someone decided to go with one over the other. 

That to me is what the forums are for .....expressing real world experience with real world proof. 

I personally am a big fan of the nokta makro line. 

I have not decided against one completely  however at this time for me I do not really have enough time to merit getting used to another unit since I am already familiar with the ones I have. 

But it is still fun to read how things go for others. 

So how much lighter is this gonna make the shaft when complete?

i have decided to go with what I am used to for the past few years on my new unit.

 

I appreciate all of your input.

 

 

I no longer have the eq 600.

However still have my XP Deus.  Will be keeping that one.

I am leaning toward the legend here in a couple of weeks I hope if all goes well.