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I would rather they have the new small coil for the GPZ. But I'm going to ask them about the Equinox update and ...
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Why couldn't I get one of those when I was there? haha (Just to break the thread a bit!)
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12 hours ago, mn90403 said:
I have been out every day since the update came. I've watched a few of the videos where it shows the iron ring being ignored with settings. That impressed me.
My 'results' of FE/FE2 adjusting amount to 'no change' in audio when it comes to bobby pins, iron screws, iron coins, paper clips or just about anything else including bottle caps. I hear all that stuff if I'm in all metal in dry and wet sand. I adjusted today with FE at 0 and FE2 at 1-9. I've had FE2 at 0 and FE and 1-9. Yesterday I used the 11 inch coil and today the 15 inch coil. I like to dig 95% of my targets on the beach. I'm surprised by what I find up to 10% of the time. It is not what I expect.
The thing I like about the update and I noticed it the first night I used it is that the targets sound better. That includes cheap rings and corroded pennies.
This afternoon I found 4 rings (top 4) and one 13g silver chain with the 15 inch coil. (I really like chains now more than rings!) I did have to dig some falsing holes with the 15 and sometimes a coin will completely disappear. It is why I call the 15 a finicky coil. Most of the targets are the result of some wave energy finally coming with some wind to push these targets into an area where I detect.
The 4 rings at the bottom were found with the 11' coil in the same general beach. On that hunt I also found many more coins. The total time for the two hunts is about 6 hours. I'll go back in the morning.
I went back to my spot this morning and there were already two detectorists on it. No more goodies this time.
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4 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:
Is this experience independent of whether you're using FE or FE2 settings?
Yes
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I have been out every day since the update came. I've watched a few of the videos where it shows the iron ring being ignored with settings. That impressed me.
My 'results' of FE/FE2 adjusting amount to 'no change' in audio when it comes to bobby pins, iron screws, iron coins, paper clips or just about anything else including bottle caps. I hear all that stuff if I'm in all metal in dry and wet sand. I adjusted today with FE at 0 and FE2 at 1-9. I've had FE2 at 0 and FE and 1-9. Yesterday I used the 11 inch coil and today the 15 inch coil. I like to dig 95% of my targets on the beach. I'm surprised by what I find up to 10% of the time. It is not what I expect.
The thing I like about the update and I noticed it the first night I used it is that the targets sound better. That includes cheap rings and corroded pennies.
This afternoon I found 4 rings (top 4) and one 13g silver chain with the 15 inch coil. (I really like chains now more than rings!) I did have to dig some falsing holes with the 15 and sometimes a coin will completely disappear. It is why I call the 15 a finicky coil. Most of the targets are the result of some wave energy finally coming with some wind to push these targets into an area where I detect.
The 4 rings at the bottom were found with the 11' coil in the same general beach. On that hunt I also found many more coins. The total time for the two hunts is about 6 hours. I'll go back in the morning.
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Tim,
I have the same feeling about the 15" coil on my Southern California beaches. I don't want to miss the odd sound or subtle sounds and the 15 has 'too much information' for some of my beaches. I get plenty of depth with my 11. It is my preferred coil but there are times for the 15.
I've not used the 15 with the new update. I'll try it in the next couple of days because the waves have been small and the targets are far between also.
Mitchel
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10 hours ago, phrunt said:
Rohan replied and that it is an official coil to be released in October, the photo was from a Russian reseller of them. That's a big EVO, pretty cool.
Why do Russian dealers always have these things so early in the cycle? Are they finding lots of gold in Russia? Where are the pictures and posts of nuggets from Russia?
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This just makes for a long Indian summer!
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Adam,
Much of Chris's book came from articles he wrote at ICMJ. https://www.icmj.com/
If you are a subscriber you can look at all previous issues back to 1999 online. There is one additional issue for 1931 (the first year of publication) online also. I don't see a link to other years but maybe you could ask.
Save yourself the money on buying the book. Chris is going to be speaking at the Comstock Gold Prospectors ( https://cgpgold.org/ ) on October 22 in Reno. If you come over to the meeting I'll buy you a book!
Mitchel
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8 hours ago, 2Valen said:
I have to learn what I have now before I start updating. I am still learning the 800 and want to know it before I mess it up with a update.
I disagree. Don't learn what you don't need to know. Go with the update and learn that. If they would have issued the Equinox with these updates then they would have field tested and lab tested away its problems.
We had lots of complaints about the old versions ... that is why it got changed. Now it is the best Nox it can be until the next update.
This is much preferable than someone telling you the Vanquish is a gotta have detector. It is better than the Equinox. That is what they said when the Equinox came out for it to replace the 3030 for many of us. I think they should issue a software update for the 3030. It has a computer connection.
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Simon,
Get out to the goldfields with this new update and find a nugget!
Mitchel
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8 hours ago, cjc said:
The sense I get with this upgrade is that you could draw two "bias curves". The F--is lower and flatter--not quite beginning to break up the range of caps--but there are fewer consequences. It also attempts to bring them into the center of the ID scale for a more defined ID. F2 is a steeper curve that does get the entire range of caps but carries with it your typical high bias tradeoff--sluggishness around iron and alloys as all this filtering takes place in software. At the higher levels Recovery Speed does not seem to do nearly as much. While its pretty good at higher levels on "clean" metals such as high kt gold, just as with any "power curve" there is still a loss of overall effectiveness at the higher ranges--where the audio becomes a bit corrupted--the bias takes up a lot of the machine's "work" capacity. Where you are trying to tame diverse fq's to begin with--adding the muting of a scattered type of target (caps) has got to involve "dialing back" the machine's ability to detect all targets. I think the way to get the most from this upgrade is to run a low setting but then--practice speeding up the sweep to knock out a higher range of caps and iron. It's great to have this additional tool to run extreme high bias but there are for sure some tradeoffs to be managed.
cjc
My ears have learned a lot since my first usage of the 800. I can still remembered how I didn't understand it so much I thought I was going to hate it.
I mostly All Metal my beaches around 23 on sensitivity. Then I make sure it is balanced, the targets are loud and then I'll adjust recovery speed as necessary. The bias has not been much of a concern as I tend to dig it all and lately the negative iffys can be a good 'odd' target or deep one. If I don't here it then I can't decided to dig or not to dig in combination with the screen info.
Yesterday I had a long beach session and tried the FE and FE2 at 4. I don't know what I didn't hear but I dug 100 targets (4 junk rings including a stainless steel that had surface numbers of 1, 12, 14, 20 and 2 of them were negative before I dug them) and learned a bit of the new sound. More will be revealed.
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I have been out the last couple of nights on the West Coast. I grew up near Daytona but haven't detected it. Most of the time we have a shorter beach here and it can have a significant slope.
My very first night I noticed the tones were clearer. I didn't adjust the FE2 because I was holding the accept/reject button in and not just pushing it. Today I adjusted it twice. It seems when I started FE6/FE26 was the way I went. I was on a dead beach so I didn't have much result but when I crossed a jetty that beach had targets.
I dug a total of 100 targets for $6.26 in change. ($4.25 quarters, $1.30 dimes, $.40 in pennies and some nickels) I had a little trash but none was tops. I also got 4 cheap rings. One came in at 1, another at 14, one at 17 and one at 20. I know two of those rings started negative. I have sensitivity at 23, speed at 6 and I use all metal. Today I dug everything (including a few deep bobby pins) for my 100 targets.
Last night I didn't find much in the low tide except a foreign coin spill. There were 4 Canadian coins, 2 Ecuador coins, 3 Nicaragua coins, a one pound arab coin or token, a 20 Euro that all come in with some iron sound!
How is an 800 or a 600 used in these countries or anywhere in South America? The coins sound scratchy, irony and not clear.
Mitchel
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Your coin with the hole reminds me of Chinese coins. Are you near a tea port? haha
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Ah, I see you have the 2.0 for next time. I had to read your full posting.
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I think Steve said he was using 16 GB on a 60 GB account. You probably don't need everything but I don't know how you pick and choose.
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GB,
I'm speaking of the business model. Key individuals and personalities can never be replaced but it is certainly comforting to be able to access the content no matter the situation with the writer. We can all envision an absentee owner business. I'm grateful for all the work Steve has put into this site. Many of us will reach the point of being virtual prospectors one day.
Steve has created a site and preserved its history in such a way that it is not a drain on his resources. We should all be so focused in not wasting more time and money than is necessary. Content is king in the internet site business. It provides SEO ranking and a value proposition to any potential advertiser. Without value to the site and only a labor of love so to speak, it would make all of our comments, quibbles, finds and hopes come to a sudden end.
We know that Google tracks us in everything we do online. I spend a fair amount of time here when I have the computer on. I hope it does help to pay for the site. Click through on some of the ads. The website gets a referral fee that offsets costs and it can promote our interests. Some of the other clubs and sites that I am on in this metal detecting business charge a fee so they stay online.
There have been many sites where the administrator/owner has been unwilling to make the upgrades necessary because it was costing them money and time they didn't have. They shut down. That is the loss of good information and valuable content.
Mitchel
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When I ask about natural I mean a nugget formed by natural causes. This natural nugget would not be formed as a result of mining activity spillage or the heating of the ground as the result of a fire.
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Oh, my first attempt at the upgrade using my Chromebook did not work. I had to use my Windows machine.
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I set the settings a little different than before. I turned the threshold way down and the target volume way up. My beach tonight didn't have as much black sand as normal but I do think I set it up so the targets didn't have to be as interrogated as much as I normally do. There were a couple of targets together in a hole and I didn't hear them both distinctly but I did hear them as odd.
I wish I would have tried the cap reject feature.
I used Beach 1 on the wet sand and I thought it was good. When I went to the dry sand I switched to Park 1 which I don't normally use. Most of these bottle caps came it at 16 if new but the rusty ones would go as low as 10.
I noticed last night that my pennies had jumped up recently to many of them being in the 25-26 range. That happened a couple of times tonight but the few pennies were mostly around 20.
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I went out after the update. It is not a very good beach for us right now as there are no patches to find. There are just a few random items out on the negative tide. I left the wet sand and went to the volleyball courts. Before I got there I went around a cafe area and got most of the quarters there. As you can see I still got lots of bottle caps in the upgraded version. I didn't use the bottle cap rejection feature. (I didn't know how to turn it on.) My observation is that the targets were a bit cleaner. Even some of the bottle caps didn't crackle. I adjusted the FE but didn't hit the accept/reject to try the next level. At least I know if it is not on the upgrade didn't change the detector.
The detector didn't help me find this:
There were several other offerings of fruit on the beach tonight also. I left them there. I picked this up because the cleaning truck will plow over this in a few hours.
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I just downloaded and will go to my beach low tide.
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Here are a few more pictures and a bit more information.
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Info:
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Oh, I almost forgot ... that odd nugget I found at Placeritas was mostly lead but it showed 1% platinum. I still don't know if that would be natural or not.
Black Hills Gold
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Has anyone got any nuggets from these hills/mountains that they put in their collection?
A company here is taking a bet on finding more. They said the largest nugget taken was 22 ounces!
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dakota-territory-corp-announces-acquisition-141500469.html