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  1. On 9/23/2019 at 1:07 PM, Steve Herschbach said:

    All you need is JRs login info Simon; he can change the password when you are done. I have high storage limits on my account (currently using 16 out of 60 gigs) and this site will never disappear unless I die, and even then there would be lots of warning as the account stays prepaid in advance by a substantial amount.

    Will this site pay for itself and provide some income to whomever is the administrator?  The site would always be open then for its content.  We would all hate to lose some of our own research and comments.

    I've had a couple of computers and phones crash and lost that data on my current devices but it is in some form of chip, backup or hard drive for most of it.  Some of it I have to upload to something other than Google photos, etc.

  2. One of the things I 'discovered' after I found the nugget was the nearby push.  (Gerry's instructors know about them over the last 20 years!)  It was a more recent push (which there have been many) but I didn't find it until I was further gridding the area.  I know some people go out there and look for the 'push areas' first.  I've done that too but not all pushes produced gold.

    Some pushes just pushed trash off the top.  (But they still pushed there for a reason)  It made it detectable.  You would have to be a pushee/pusher in order to know the results.  Some people like to hunt push piles.  I often times skip them but maybe I shouldn't?

    Another 'discovery' that I made while in that area of the nugget was my scooping technique may be faulty.  If I scoop a target into my scoop and wave it over the coil I hear it.  I reduce it by half and still hear a target so I keep going until I am left with just one target.  What occurred to me was ... 'what if I started with 3 nuggets in the scoop?'  If I still have a signal in the scoop, could there also be one or two in my hand?  Or if there are no nuggets in the scoop and I toss that portion away could there still be more than one nugget/target.  Of course there was because in this case I was dealing with can slaw.

    I haven't lost much sleep over tossing out nuggets but it could happen.  Someone who gets on multiple nuggets in a hole more often than I do will have to be careful with the discard technique.

    I'll try to remember if there was something else ... haha

  3. I have been to the burn barrel many times and hunted it without success many times also.  There is an adage that says 'no one gets it all' and that is true.  I also believe that some areas are effectively hunted out.  This means you can't go out and still find something in a reasonable amount of time.

    My advice is mix up your locations as you seem to be doing.  Look at your Google Maps and Earth, pick out some open ground and put some pins on it and when you get to Rye Patch ... hunt it.  When you leave you can say 'I hunted that section or area' and don't do it again the next trip!

    If quantity is important or necessary in your gold pursuit then I would say Rye Patch is a place you don't want to hunt.  If you want a 'trophy' Rye Patch nugget or look for a chevron then continue the hunt.

    I started going there in 2011 and I thought there was not much gold there then but a lot has been found.  Gerry continues to give lessons around the burn barrel and some gold is still found.  I've done outings there and seen the 2300 come along, the 7000 and some other innovations and people gridded in all directions from the burn barrel and found missed gold and some unseen gold.

    People that live closer than I do have been pushing and pulling at that dirt for a long time and when you hear their stories and you see the placers you know there were hundreds of ounces taken off of those flats.  I'm still at less than an ounce total for all my trips but I'm getting close.

    There are better people than me to ask about where to go.  They sometimes say something but most times don't.  At least they don't say anything to me!

    Mitchel

  4. Gerry,

    I hope you will have a good training session.  The very interesting part was that on the Friday when I got up the 2.37g nugget was my first target.  After my travels later on Friday, Saturday and Sunday (I needed to see what I was researching) I spent the night in the Eugenes.  I didn't find anything there from sun up until 9 AM so I took off for the burn barrel again.

    My first target when I got there (near where I found the other nugget but on the other side of the road) was that little nugget.

    I started Thursday with Lunk's settings with some adjustment to the sensitivity.  I didn't detect on the training hill but places near and also not on 20.  I kept those settings for most of Friday also.

    The Monday nugget was found with low smoothing.  I was beginning to experiment with Locate Patch on and normal/difficult because there were a couple of places with ground groan.  I was willing to let a little more noise get into my headphones as time went on.  Maybe I should have done that in Australia as well.

    Mitchel

  5. I hope you get the right information to catch them.  The need for immediate cash leaves a trail.

    Recently I had a locker broken into back in Florida.  It was one of many but the thieves were caught and they lived across the street from the facility.  They were after tools in that case too.

  6. This thread needs a bump and I was taking a couple of pictures so I could do that.  These pictures show a can at Rye Patch.  I approached the can and as soon as I could 'hear it' I stopped.  The distance from the top of the coil and the windings to the can is the same as the 14" coil.  When I hear targets with the 7000 like this I am like a moth drawn to a flame.

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    I held the coil up and pointed the bottom towards the can and the distances were very similar to the side fringe even tho there was more coil pointing at the can.

    Are these similar to everyone's observations?

    Mitchel

  7. Let me catch up on a couple of nugget pictures.

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    That is the bigger one weighed.  It is a nice little chunk and that is the other side of it.

    The second nugget I found was after traveling a few hundred miles, a couple of nights away and going back to the same general area where I found the first one.  I got out of the car and walked about 40 feet and heard a target.  It was this little nugget.  I gridded this area for the next three hours before the wind got me and didn't find any more.

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    That's it for the nuggets.  

    I'll include more about this trip and I have a couple of other threads I want to start or add to.

    This is a little nugget of something I found.  I'm going to get someone to shoot it with a XRF and see for sure.  It was found at a site that had both gold and silver.  I didn't find any gold.

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  8. 8 hours ago, phrunt said:

    I'm pleased you managed to make your patch lead and all credit to you for giving it another go, it must of been scary doing the snip again! Great to see you back in action... fingers crossed you find a big nugget to pay for the misadventure.

    Gotta love those Davsgold picks, looks like you'd need it for that ground.

    Yeah!  No more blanks ... you're all patched up.  You are more potent than ever.  Watch out old patches a Condor is on the prowl.

  9. Thanks everyone for your likes.  You know who you are.  😊

    Ok, I got blown off of Rye Patch today about noon to one sort of thing.  This was after finding another little one of .26g before the wind started.  I had a chance to weigh the first one and it is 2.37g.  It's late because a semi truck went over the side of the road north of Hawthorne/Walker Lake and we had to sit and wait for 3 hours!

    More on that and other parts of the trip when I return.

  10. I began this Rye Patch trip on Thursday morning about 2 AM.  It was time to go meet Dig It and see how he was doing there.  This time it was a normal trip without the burning satellite re-entry I saw on one trip before.  I was treated with a full moon on my way up 395, 6, 95 and I80.

    We met up without a problem and I headed out to places where I wanted to look and some places where I had found nuggets in the past.  I'd say at least half of my trips to Rye Patch get me on a nugget and the other half don't.  This is my first trip up here since Australia so I'm wondering what I gained from all that swinging.  Anyway, it was good to meet up with Ken, have a chat about his escapades and try to help him understand what little I know about Rye Patch.

    We parted and I expected to see him again the next day.  I have a bit of an open schedule and he warned me that it was going to be warmer than we planned.  I went on to near the burn barrel and spent one of those glorious nights of sleep I get after doing an all nighter.  I had no sleep the previous night and I can stretch out in the 4Runner and enjoy a night of no city or neighbor noise!  Planes are constantly landing at LAX and if they are from Asia they fly over Santa Monica.  No planes at Rye Patch.  haha

    I went to bed at dark, watching the sunset out the front and watching the moon rise in the back!  I captured the sunrise the next morning.

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    Rye Patch is full.  I've been here many times when all of that area was dry.  It was a nice, clear, cool morning.  Time to get going.

    I headed in a direction to take advantage of the morning.

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    Before I got to my spot I had my first target of the day.

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    I dug around and in the early light with my sunglasses on and dirt on the target I thought it was lead.  There's lots of trash in the area as I found out later.  I looked and looked and finally gave it a mouth wash and I saw the color!  Yeeee haaaa ... a nice nugget.

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    I've cleaned it up by soaking it in vinegar.  I don't know the weight yet.  I'll edit this post when I find out.  I think it is my best Rye Patch nugget. 

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    Lucky Friday the 13th full moon nugget.  I gridded that area for half the day and only found trash.  I don't think I would have that nugget now if it had been in the reverse order.  I found the clue early and gridded.  If I would have found trash, trash, trash without a clue I probably would have moved on.  I discovered a couple of things while looking for more in that area but they will be put into another post.

    It is my only nugget of the 3 days so far but I'm seeing some new to me patches.  More travel tomorrow while the temperature is up.

    Mitchel

  11. 2 hours ago, vanursepaul said:

    Well I’m back in the States

    Down in Destin FL at Eglin Air Force Base

    Beautiful beaches and water 

    I’m not missing OZ yet, but as soon as Trent posts up some gold I’m sure I will relapse and my fever will be back again. 

     

    What a great experience every trip over has been. People are A one

     

     

    Paul,

    I'm in your neck of the woods tonight in Winnemucca!  Last night I was in Placeratas.  The night before that Rye Patch.

    You need to do some fishing while you are there.  If you don't get a chance to do that the seafood restaurants are some of the best in the world.  They are much better than LA on average.

    Mitchel

  12. Jim,

    We were going lean and mean.  You wanted to carry enough water and snacks to get up and back but we were told we could fill our bottles at a couple of places along the way.  At the time I was doing this it was just about running and trail running.  I hadn't hunted for any gold yet.  That didn't come until 2010.

    I still don't have a clue about most of the goldfields on the way up there.  I'm driving that route again tonight.  It will be good with the full moon to light the way.

    Rye Patch in the morning and maybe Downieville on Monday.

  13. DetectorPro, the headphone company also makes detectors!  That is news to me.  I saw a guy in the dry sand with one of these waterproof detectors the other day.

    https://detectorpro.com/headhunter-12-underwater-metal-detector/

    I kept looking and chatting with him and there was no control module on his belt or on the shaft!  I looked at the waterproof headphones and there are extra knobs.  Imagine that, a headphone company puts the detector module in the headphones.

    Ok, I probably missed when these came out and the other models.

    How do they do?  Who has given a review?

    https://detectorpro.com/all-metal-detectors-2/

    Mitchel

  14. I looked at the eyes of the bear with a loop the other day and one is perfectly round ... like a stain.  It would be hard in my opinion to get something that round.  The other eye had a bit of a 'bleed over' or slight imperfection so it is just another clue.

    I have some ivory on my cue sticks.  I compared it but I still could not come to a conclusion on the material of the bear.

    The prohibition on ivory is enforced.  Someone I know who makes cue sticks had to pay a hefty fine for using ivory even tho the ivory was purchased many years ago.

     

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