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39 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

41.7% gold, 58.3% something else like silver and/or copper.

Great find for sure.

TBH the fact that I thought it was junk ruined the moment initially! But now i'm quite happy with the find! I went back to the same park today, but this time it only gave up a stainless steel ring that is way too big for my fingers. It's a Spikes stainless steel ring. 

4 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

Yep, Schoolofhardnox is right. A 10k gold bracelet, you're a gold-finding detectorist now for sure. 👍 Congratulations! It's not engraved so you could put your name on it. 🤔

It's a baby bracelet so it wouldn't fit anywhere!
Still i'm surprised that I found this piece, it definitely took alot of effort to find due to all the trash. Though to be fair I found it in the field so it was more tolerable as there were less targets.
It also looks corroded in some places; mainly this one nub that looks like copper tarnishing. Also some parts of the chain looks like it was welded together and is also tarnishing? I could also be dirty cause I didn't clean it very well. The rest of the chain and center panel look fine though.

My first significant find at a trashed out park. Signals everywhere but most beeped from 26 to 36 indicating pulltab. 

This interesting piece ranged from 17 to 19 for the middle then 33 to 35 for the chain part. It's stamped with an unfamiliar numbers so I figured it was junk. Still a better find than what I normally find! (Clad)

Sadly that beach was a wash, no swimming allowed so nothing to find. Searched a park today and it's rough with all the trash. I definitely prefer beaches!

22 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

I like to detect as deep as possible with the detectors I have on hand. However, the most recent stuff is definitely near the surface in most of the parks I detect in. I actually find some of my best finds near sidewalk and path tear outs and anywhere that the ground has been cultivated for flower and shrub beds.

Anyway, right now in the Denver area, being able to dig 6" deep is a miracle due to the layer of perma frost just below that level.

The areas around where I live used to be heavily farm land, so the best i'd find deep down is big iron, even in parks. Ngl I envy the east coasters with their old lands and old finds.

11 hours ago, JCR said:

Jeff,   Thank you for the test comparison . There is a lot of good info in you observations. My East Texas iron ore based red dirt is not as bad as your soil. It is normally 3-4 bars on the Legend’s meter depending on moisture. 
 I use M3 often. In Park it is noticeably better dealing with Al trash than M1 or M2. Your multiple testing since getting your Legend bears this out. 
 What l have also noticed is that M3 is often the best choice in wet ground as Nokta stated due to it’s soil moisture subtraction. Where M3 seems to fail for me is depth in my higher mineral red dirt. M1 is noticeably deeper. I wonder if the soil moisture subtraction is the difference?  Take away the mineralization and M3 is a little deeper. It’s not the weighting, it’s the mineralization.

As Steve H reminds us, soil is what matters more often than not. Our own testing in our own dirt is the best gage but l learn from others too. Your well rounded efforts are appreciated.

To be honest you might not need a detector to go that deep depending on the parks you go to, so it might be better to be able to filter out some aluminum? Like most of the parks around me are about 60 years old and stuff doesn't get buried that deep in that amount of time. if extra depth is needed, then a bigger coil might do. Though pin pointing the target might be a bit more difficult due to the large coil!

1 hour ago, King-Of-Bling said:

Like I mentioned before , the guys that consistently kill it have 10 , 20 years or more pounding the surf. Not gonna happen in 2 or 3 years let alone a few months. But you are on your way. Study and research are key. By now , you should have figured out that your small beach is done. And you can't always wait for a storm to hit. Move on to another beach ! Be willing to explore and travel. GL

i'm about to, heading up this time perhaps tomorrow. Today is a holiday so people might have headed to the beach today!

17 hours ago, schoolofhardNox said:

I use a small spade for all dry and slope sand. Works great. I also have the Xtreme scoop and carbon fiber handle. Pricey for sure but built extremely well, but it is a lot heavier than the light gauge ones that seem to break at their seems. So if you are not into lugging a heavy scoop on your shoulders, then it may be better to buy a couple of light gauge ones and have your welder on speed dial 😉 Seriously, I have not tried to pry rocks with it, generally scoops don't handle that too well anyhow, but I have buried that scoop as deep as it goes and never had an issue with it. The only issue is being able to pull a full scoop of wet sand up and flip it. That can lead to a sore wrist pretty fast. Hope that gives you an idea of the Xtreme scoop.

 

I've already put a home depot iron rod on my currently broken scoop so it's probably 4-5 Lbs right now. I think that xtreme scoop would be an improvement!

7 hours ago, TampaBayBrad said:

I don't know how many hours you have hunted in those 3 to 4 weeks, but 10 silver rings sounds like you have some good areas to hunt!

I picked up another one today! But the beaches are running dry. Most are sanded in now, and the beach that has given me a ring every trip is small. I'm pretty much having to thoroughly search it to find a ring IF i'm lucky! I need another storm to wipe out the sand so I can find more stuff.

36 minutes ago, The Seeker said:

If you’re finding silver you are really close to the gold. Most of the stuff I’ve found is on the wet part of the slope during low tides. I used to hunt the dry sand when I started the hobby. After a while I found out the dry sand gets hit pretty hard where I’m at so your chances are slim to find anything good. If you are new to the hobby I recommend doing some Google search, there’s a lot of great info out there. I spent lots of hours doing research, watching videos and going to the beach before I started getting some decent results. I am still rather new to the hobby so I have a lot more to learn. Good luck out there.

yeah i'm new too, 3-4 weeks in and i'm up 10 silver rings, maybe a gold earring but man i've not found any more gold after that. I've learned that stuff tends to consolidate in areas for quite a while until changes occur like sanding in, or even more erosion. You'll just keep finding more stuff in hot spots until they stop producing basically. Alot of my rings were discovered in generally the same areas.

here I thought these tools would be stronger than a rock. I guess i have to go for the easy pickin's as to not break them.

Also my other issue may be that I used the scoop as leverage to pull up heavier stuff. Sometimes it's rocks, but sometimes it's a lodged piece of big iron stuck in the sand. I also desire a wide enough scoop to get the object in 1 or two scoops cause other wise they just sink in muddy quicksand if the tide is up and it's partially sanded in.
Zincers? more like Sinkers

7 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

Ehhhh, I wouldn't try to move heavy rocks with a beach scoop. 😏 I also don't try to lift sunken pilings or trees. And I definitely wouldn't do it with a $600 Xtreme. 😬 Small gravel and wet sand are heavy enough, if you have those issues maybe a stainless crowbar? 🙂

https://www.steritool.com/stainless-steel-pry-bar.aspx

gravelly sands sometimes contains heavy rocks. I guess i just gotta move em by hand then.

1 hour ago, F350Platinum said:

I've had no problems over the last 2 years with a CooB Shark V10 stainless scoop, and I just bought a carbon fiber shaft from SteveG. Expect to pay upwards of $600 for an Xtreme, if that's too much look at what Serious Detecting offers. I recently bought a titanium scoop from them. Dune.

Most of the exotic metal scoops are from overseas countries that are currently having difficulties, but some US dealers have them in stock. In both cases with mine I'm very impressed by the welding, and CooB uses 2mm stainless. Dune uses 2mm titanium.

@PI-Man can tell you about the Xtreme titanium scoop. 🙂

how are the welds? Could they move heavy rocks with no problem? That was my main issue, sometimes there were heavy rocks in the way and I had to scoop them out. I reckon that's what caused it to fail completely too much weight putting strain on the top panel. 

you have more luck than I do! I'm only finding silver, but it's always a welcome surprised nonetheless! Did you find the gold on the wet?

Build quality of scoops from amazon are extremely poor. Xtremescoops has a 10 yr warranty on their scoops and I need something durable to last me more than 3 weeks of use. Main concerns are handle and weld quality.

lol i'm dumb, it's all one piece. Mb mb

Making fake rings to fake out detectorists

Small stuff doesn't seem to be a issue for these big name detectors. If you can find pickers you can find small jewelry. My legend can find small stuff too on a 13 in.

The sea always finds a way to provide. As long as the conditions of not being sanded in is met, and plenty of beach erosion to keep all heavy stuff in one spot. Stuff refreshes daily unless there's rocks blocking the waterline. So it might be worth doing multiple searches of the same area until it gives up!

4 hours ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Here are a couple of things I do.

I have two main turf coin/jewelry hunting strategies depending on how bad modern aluminum and iron/steel trash amounts are and just as important, where it is as in if it is mostly near the surface or scattered throughout the possible target depths.

Mostly, I like to hunt a "normal" modern trashed park with targets at various depths by hunting mostly with my ears. I set up a 6 tone custom audio program that is easy for me to remember tone wise (I am a professional musician.....) that corresponds to the Legends target IDs for Tone 1 (target IDs 3 to 10) - iron, T2 (target IDs 11 to 22) - small gold jewelry, T3 (target IDs 23-27)- modern nickels and medium sized gold jewelry, T4 (target IDs 28 to 42) - most pull tabs, aluminum screw caps, zinc pennies, huge gold rings, small silver jewelry, T5 (target IDs 43 to 47)- Indian Head pennies, Wheat pennies, Memorial pennies, clad dimes, Mercury dimes, Roosevelt dimes, medium sized silver jewelry, big pieces of aluminum, T6 ( target IDs 48 to 60)- quarters and anything bigger coin wise or aluminum wise. This can be used with Park, Field or Beach along any frequency setting.  However, at least where I detect in moderate to high mineralization, the Legend single frequency choices quickly lose all semblance of target ID accuracy on targets deeper than 3". Your results may definitely be different.

If the surface is totally trashed with aluminum and iron/steel trash I go nuclear with a 2 tone Pitch tones setup that accepts a little of the iron target ID range (IDs 5 to 10), the small gold and nickel range (IDs 14 to 27) and the zinc penny and up range (39 to 60). Sometimes I just want the copper penny and up range so I only accept 43 to 60. I am not after a lot of depth with this setup. I just want to find some decent targets amidst a ton of shallow trash so turning down sensitivity to a very comfortable 20 or less works just fine where I detect and causes less audio wackiness on surface targets since the Legend only uses DD coils.

Here is a photo of some of the gold targets that I have found in the last 2 years placed below their Legend target IDs along with the regularly occurring types of aluminum and steel trash. Random trash targets like the infinite variations of foil and can slaw are not included since they can appear anywhere due to size and depth. Both of the setups I detailed above are based on the tendencies shown in the photo. Due to the Legend's excellent multi frequency technology, the target IDs shown in the photo have been highly repeatable and consistent. They aren't perfect but they are good enough for me down to about 10" depth using the 11" coil which I use a lot.

 

 

When I look at a park, I think about what types of things are done in the park now and in the past. The number one thing I think about is where would people congregate the most, like where would people get drunk or stoned, where would people go for shade when its really hot and where would lost items be found during a game, etc. At least here in the Denver area, the park maintenance crews regularly use blowers to clear off the sidewalks. Dropping something on a sidewalk like a coin or ring will usually result in that object bouncing and maybe even rolling. Same with concrete courts. So I always hunt very carefully around sidewalks and basketball/tennis courts. Tot lots are also a great place to hunt.

I have something like five accessible freshwater beaches near me and hundreds of parks. I am a fairly practical person so I just do whatever is in front of me or easy to get to and don't fret about it. Since the Equinox 600/800 was released, I have been finding enough clad to pay for a new Equinox 800 or a Deus 2 Lite setup each year. I easily do the same or more in jewelry finds. I also have a 5 gallon bucket that is half full of pull tabs found in the last four years! 

Just a few ideas.

Great tips, thank you!

I am the same can't listen to the guy ramble for too long.

It seems like despite the sanding in affecting the main beach I visit, other beaches nearby aren't as affected, and still produce a decent amount. beaches that were especially eroded away now have some sand, and it's easier to detect on those beaches now. Also since not alot of sand was deposited on those beaches, they will still produce , compared to a beach that got 6-7 ft of sand. 
Found 2 silver rings and a silver dime at that beach today, and another silver ring at another beach that also wasn't as affected. Beaches tend to hold patterns to where they deposit their goodies. The first beach I went to was suggested by someone on youtube as they said they found a large amount of coins and 2 rings at a specific location after a major storm. That storm was well over a month ago, but when I checked it out; there was still stuff to be found. Further down the beach I found practically nothing/ light weight stuff like can slaw. The second beach still continues to deposit good stuff on the left side of that beach. Quarters mainly, but that confirms that more heavier stuff ends up on that side compared to the right side.  

Followed the same pattern for a the original park I hunted at, much better coin to trash ratio but still alot of trash as expected! I didn't cut out any targets as i wanted to hear it all and train my ears to the sounds of trash and treasure. Treasure is pretty rare, and i have still yet to compare sounds with what little gold I found on the beach and stuff I find at parks.
An interesting bit I discovered is that modern day pull tabs tend to make a high pitched sound like coins, but they double tap. That is you'll hear the initial beep but then a fainter but still high beep comes right after when you swing over multiple times. I'm guessing it's because of the pull tab holes that prompts the machine to make these noises. 

These guys sure like their china ceramics!