Sirius

Took to a nearby park for 3 hours today, and learned about listening to the beeps of my machine. It was quite the enlightening experience because being able to hear the difference between a coin and a rusty bottle cap is monumental. Coins are sharp and won't tone break when swung over multiple times, whereas bottle caps will tone break when swung over along with producing a not so sharp sound. The target ID helps with identifying what it could be 45-46 tend to be memorial pennies, while 50+ are either quarters, silver or (Lead)? Beaver tails/pull tabs are within the gold and nickel range and have to be dug up if you wanna find gold. I also dig low tones too but those 15-16 tend to be foil. I'll definitely need to put more time into it, but so far so good! Also yeah I need to check high traffic areas, more drops there.

ah I see thanks!

When I checked through the sub menus it only had GS. Gold field mode is also missing ST. I think it would be great to have the ability to modify these settings through all of the modes rather than just beach and park mode only, that is unless they're still working on it.

They do say that if you want gold, you gotta dig up the pull tabs/ beaver tails and nickels. If there's no avoiding that then i'd just have to shift my main focus! Don't have to necessarily dig up every target, just those pull tabs/pennies. Probably more pull tabs than anything since it's closer to the gold range.

11 hours ago, Badger-NH said:

The half-dollar really isn't as worn as it looks. The coin is 90% silver and 10% copper. Saltwater causes the copper to leach out onto the surface bringing with it a certain amount of silver. Under this coating is usually a perfectly good coin. If you remove the black, the oxidized silver coating still remains covering up all the detail. This silver coating is much softer than the coin underneath it. It's soft enough to mar with a fingernail. 

I've tried every possible coin-cleaning method I can think of and nothing will remove this soft silver coating without damaging the coin below it. It is permanently bonded to the coin.

Coins made of pure silver do not have this problem as much. That's why 400-year-old shipwreck coins often look better than 100-year-old coins found at the beach.

 

Yeah ngl the coin lost 5g of its original weight probably from that loss of copper and some silver.

1 hour ago, nebulanoodle said:

What would be some pros and cons of running a GPX 5000 with a dd coil at the beach?

I’d say cons are:

- Not waterproof

- Heavy

- Deep digs

- EMI???

Got another hunt in as well. Trying to detect the wet and as close to the water as possible. But the beach is so steep and washed off that it’s been too much of a challenge for my well being to try and dig targets in the rolling tide. Bad timing today too, the tide was coming up.

 

Yeah it's best to check when the tide is headed back down. Also I didn't know that the gpx5000 was not waterproof! The ability to be near and in the water helps alot with searching for coin lines that end up consolidating in the wet. Coin lines = potential heavy stuff.

3 minutes ago, Digalicious said:

Well, you have to decide if you want to cherry pick only the coin signals OR go for gold as well. As you know, if you want gold, then you'll have to dig massive amounts of foil, pulltabs, and bottle caps.

tbh the gold might have to come from the beach for the most part; somehow less trash at the beach than trashy parks. I'm not much of a park detector anyhow but it would be nice to learn when high tides prevent me from going to beaches.

It would be helpful to run some tests to hear for the differences between gold rings and beaver tails. That being said, no luck on finding gold rings on the beach yet, so I don't really have a sample to work with!

24 minutes ago, JCR said:

The LG35 is a great coil and can be used in a Park setting effectively running Pitch tone, just not in the thick trash. Keep getting out there & posting.

Maybe your scoop has a decent warranty.

apparently no warrenty, should not have skimped out on paying premiums and should have done research on good scoops. CKG seems to work well for some people so that might be my next purchase when the current scoop kicks the bucket.

22 minutes ago, Digalicious said:

Sirius,

I think I'd rather stick toothpicks under my fingernails than use a coil as large as the LG35 on a trashy site 😁

Definitely get the 6" on, and notch out the tab range if you're cherry picking coins. The tab range can very depending on a few factors, but in general it's normally around the 28-32 range. Maybe notch in nickels, then notch out the numbers right above nickel and up to around 35?

EDIT...and of course notch out everything below nickels 🙂

Nickels are in the gold range 20ish to 25 so it would keep in a good amount of gold but also beaver tails seem to be in the same area. I'll need to check again.

I didn't know how to set the C settings until I watched this vid, could be very useful for notching out trash but you'd miss gold for the most part.

On 2/8/2023 at 3:46 PM, glacialgold said:

Very interesting. Dude has ALOT of energy...his recovery speed is impressive, to say the least.

This is a understatement, he moves like he's on speed most of the time. Especially for digging in the dirt which can be rough. 

11 hours ago, JCR said:

You have been given very solid advise in all of the previous posts. Dirtfisher also knows what he is talking about. I use a very similar C Disc pattern in 4 kHz Park that works very well. My Tab notch is 29 -34.  High coins can down average to 35 if close to Al trash so you have to dig by tone not TID. Lower Sensitivity to mid 20s, Recovery 6 or 7. Use the 6 inch coil if you have it. Get the new LG24 if you can. Scan slow. Screw caps just have to get dug. Large can slaw sounds too big. Lift your coil up to tell on it.  2 tone would be easiest to start with.

 

yeah i was using a LG35 coil and was hitting beavers 7 inches down. Trying to use my beach settings for parks did not work out so well, so I do appreciate the info about proper park settings. I bought the pro pack so I could use the 6 in coil. I'm in need of a new beach scoop as mine fell apart within 2 weeks of purchase, so i'll have to hold out on the LG24 for now. Current beach scoop is being held together by a hose clamps due to poor welds and I replaced the handle with a iron pipe.

you can custom disc certain numbers on the legend its pretty neat. i've set my settings to this and might check it out sometime later. 

3 minutes ago, Digalicious said:

Hmmm.

Yes, the caveat to using such a low frequency, does mean that aluminum can ID very high. In my experience though, it didn't happen very often.

This is a good thing though, if it's reading that high I tend to ignore such numbers same when it reads 60 on the beach. Someone I met at the beach said anything higher than 35 or so is most likely to be trash, but he was using a nox so the target ids are definitely going to be different.

38 minutes ago, Digalicious said:

To add to the excellent advice from GB and Geezer:

Try using Park mode's new M3 from V1.10. It's weighted lower than M1 and will unmask coins from nonferrous trash notably better than M1. Then again, 4khz will do it even better than the new M3.

If you only want to dig coins from a trashy park, you can either ignore or notch out anything but the coin IDs. You will miss some coins when you cherry pick like that, but you'll dig a lot less junk (very little junk if you do it right). On second thought, by cherry picking, you'll save a massive amount of time because you're digging very little trash. That means much more time is spent digging the coin IDs. So you'll actually dig more coins by cherry picking 🙂

 

I was using M3 today, and man it was still all beaver tails. 4khz seems to cause targets to change their target Id's something like nonferrous trash would hit 50-60 which is the max for the legend. Not sure how that works so i'll have to do some testing later.

It astounds me how much trash we humans leave behind. But occasionally we also leave treasures behind as well! I often find umc shotgun shell bases by the coast and I always wonder: How'd they even end up there to begin with? So much history, yet we don't know a thing about it cause the people who dropped that coin or shot the gun are long gone now.

The main park I wanted to go to was closed today due to storm damage, so I went to another park down south. Turns out it was trashed so bad that every step I took ended with me finding a beaver tail and barely any coins. I also found a ton of crushed cans and various other junk. I've mostly stuck to beaches and had tremendous luck there, but with parks it's a whole other game that requires more investigation. Luckily I pulled a bunch of trash today that i'll be using to test my detector on. Hopefully i'll figure out a way to distinguish between trash and coins with enough testing. Anybody got any tips on hunting parks?

4 hours ago, schoolofhardNox said:

Beach hunt # 23 was at a beach I have not done in years. This is an area that I wanted to try out the Manticore to weed through the junk and also try the GPX to hit targets below the vast amount of cobble that lay exposed in one section of the beach. But as we all know, things don’t always go as expected. First thing I noticed was that the bulldozer was at work and there were many big piles waiting to be spread out on the beach. Sounds like a win-win situation, as that sand must have been removed from somewhere else on the beach. I pulled out the Manticore and started hunting around the big piles. Unfortunately there was a lot of broken wire from the slat type fences they use to keep that sand banks in place. They work well but get busted up quite a bit from big storms. Also, the beach had exposed black sand on its surface. There were older copper cents at 2-3” deep, so I knew there would be better targets there. Unfortunately, the Manticore (like the Equinox) does not do well in exposed black sand. 2-3” on a coin was all I could get. Bummer ☹️  I messed with some of the settings but soon gave up. I don’t know if Minelab is holding back on some of the technology that can make their newest detectors work in black sand or if it’s not possible for Multi IQ and Multi IQ+ to work if black sand is present. Either way, I abandoned the Manticore and quickly fired up the GPX. I went back to the same area and started popping coins all over. Now there are drawbacks to the GPX, since I also started to hit pull tabs at 10+” as well. I figured there must be a gold ring somewhere, but not today. I thought I struck gold twice today, once in a hoop earring and the other was a stunning 5 heart stone earring. Too good to be true. Both were bling and no amount of close scrutiny would put the letter K on either of them. I did get a silver Mercury and Roosevelt, along with a silver ring and earring, so all was not lost. You can clearly see the difference in the amount of coins and jewelry between the Manticore and GPX when conditions get harsher.  😉 The beach has potential, so I may hit it again with the pulse. Now if I can just stop people from asking me if I watch “The Detectorist” comedy series. 🙄

Two people asked me the same question 2 days ago, I just told them I don't watch TV :) 
It also seems like you pull up a ton of trash with the GPX, but it's hitting those good targets too! Is it difficult to discriminate between ferrous and non ferrous with that detector? Cause I noticed you picked up a ton of iron.
 

1 hour ago, Jim in ma said:

I my self do not clean them,  By the time they look like that value is minimal.When they are clean and shiney they look just like the clad that I am tired of digging in my older beaches or my pocket .

When I look in my box of black and gray cookies they remind me of all the times I looked in the scoop to see them lying on the bottom.   These black cookies are becoming harder to come by.

The condition that this coin was originally in made it impossible to identify without a thorough cleaning. It couldn't be helped. I've left my other coins alone though.

I'm also in the same camp as you. Gold is incredibly rare or maybe i'm just not lucky for gold. Lucky for silver maybe got a number of silver jewelry and coins but very little gold. Gold rings are just non existent for me and the only gold object I found is a earring. Though I have found a gold colored ring of some sort, but It seems heavily plated if anything; it lacks the luster and smoothness that the earring has and has areas where copper is exposed? At least one area has copper colored metal used to seal a crack. Though strangely enough despite having been in the water for so long (as you can tell from the pockmarks), there's no tarnishing on the copper areas, or tarnishing in general.

18 minutes ago, nebulanoodle said:

I thought it was nickels I wanted to find! And that was a bracelet, just string.

 

Mostly beach. I put the location under each photo.

the wet or the dry?

The legend is my first detector and it's pretty solid so far for the wet. The only menu that is not in it's own category is the iron filter/bottlecap rejection/ ground stability menus. It's under the recovery speed menu, just have that pulled up and press the bottom middle button (pinpointer button) then navigate with the right arrow key. Other than that it's straight forward once you play around with the settings some.

where are you searching btw. beaches or parks?

21 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

Out of likes today, but 👍. I'm sure it's about the best you can do with sea crusted coins like that! Nice job.

Could be my mind , but it looks like a 1941. 🙂

That was a really lucky break y'all got there, I went to look at one of my river beaches today and it was sanded in more than I've ever seen. Of course that might mean the water would have something... 🤔

it's a a very cool piece even though it's really worn down, cleaned up quite nicely as well!