rod-pa

that large cent is a nice pull.  too bad copper comes out of the ground so poorly

It is a large cent, but I will try to pick at it once it soaks a bit.

I think F350 is right on the type though

18 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

I totally understand. It's a good trial though to try techniques other successful people use (I have seen your finds, wow... 👍). I want to get really good at this. I'm not asking for gospel, and don't take any suggestions as such. 🙂 The "fast track" is to listen and learn, and speculate every now and again so people will "kick" ya.

Does the pinpoint hold the real id - I sometimes try and "catch" the one that seems to be the average - when it's over something ? I know it doesn't change once selected so I try to hit the exact spot again once locked on. I am happy with that because it seems to work for me, but no idea. It would be great if ML could do that if not. 😀

when pinpointing on really deep targets, once i have it zeroed in on the highest strength spot, i usually glance at the TiD it is showing, then turn off pinpoint and wiggle that spot again to see how nice the tone sounds still.  if I am getting iron tones still, I am listening to how quiet they are compared to the ferrous tone as many times that is now just dirt feedback.  If the ferrous tones are still nice sounding, its getting dug.  In the areas that have Rev war activity, I am digging the lowest high tones also for pewter buttons.  Last two deep pewter buttons were small and registered only 5 and 7. 

I had a chance to get back to an old mill during lunch break this week.  I decided to work a steep bank that was partially man-made from cutting a more gradual ramp into the hillside for the wagons to pull the grains to the top of the mill around the back of the house.  Swinging on an angle like that..really weird.  I like flat and level, i have decided.  However...going to have to go back and keep working it.  Got a pair of wheats to start, then these two.  Also a thimble, but it was just brass, and homeowner took that one to clean up because she collects them.

And, i must say, when I saw the quarter was a 13, and could make out a mintmark on the back.....i was about to hyperventilate until I saw it was a D.  You guys in California dodged one again.

Happy Hunting

I am not sure i would say i "trust" turning the horseshoe off, F350.  I would more say it helps me focus on the fainter high tones, and once I think it sounds good, i most often switch horseshoe back on and make sure I still think i want to dig it.  When i pinpoint, i usually first swing a wide circle around it to hear if there are other targets around it that are strong enough to skew the tones I am hearing from my desired target.

Sometimes the pinpoint will show a strong iron target to one side (lets say to the right).  if it does, then i move to the left side of my hoped for "good" target, turn 90deg, back up a bit, and swing from further away until on the "good" target to make sure i am not just getting a ghost of that iron item.

Please don't take this as surefire stuff.  I have been skunked a lot of times at sites that i Know must have wonderful old stuff hiding, but I can say that working this way has helped me so much this year at finding the deeper older coins.  Also...resisting the urge to go fast, and swing really slow in crowded area.

if i was there...once i was in the spot where i KNEW the old farmhouse was....i would turn the all metal off for a while, so i could just focus on the quality of the quieter/deep high tones.  Forget the iron until you find your nice sweet quiet multiple direction tone.  I am sure when you pinpoint, those large can slaws will be screaming at you, and can pass them up.

with equinox, i find that turning off the iron will let me go slower and focus on the individual high tones better.  since you arent going to dig everything, might as well just try for the deepies.

wow, that one crushes all the brass ones i have found. 

I know I moan now and then about not having access to many of the S or D mint coins here in Pennsylvania, but this spring I have been on a number of new permissions that have really added quite a bit to the type set I have been building of my dug coins.  It does make me appreciate the wide range of mint years and coins in my area.  Yes, coppers come out pretty ragged some times, but since they aren't getting sold, its no matter.  These weren't all gotten this spring, but ill put an x next to those.  

x New Jersey Copper

Spanish period counterfeit copper

x Half cent Classic head 1809-29

Large cent Liberty Caps, including a 1795 lettered edge

Large cent Draped busts

Large cent Classic heads

Large cent Matron heads

x Large cent Braided hair

Flying eagle

a whole tribe of Indian cents

x Two Cent

Trimes

Shield Nickel - no rays

Liberty head nickels

herd of buffalos

war nickels

Liberty seated half dime

Liberty seated dime

Barber dimes

Mercurys

Barber Quarter

Standing Liberty Quarters

Walking Liberty Halves 

Franklin Half

Peace dollar

NON-US Mints

1786 Half Reale x2

x 1801 Reale

Canadian large cents

Canadian Bank Tokens

This is not a plug for the company or any sort of recommendation to buy stuff, but on libertycoinservice.com, they have a free PDF archive of type set documents that are really nice to summarize things if anyone is interested in type coins.

happy hunting, stay hydrated out there!

I agree, an exception, but I would give him his coins.  My comment was more the foot down, hasn't been touched since 1800s

the good part about finding 1800s and earlier coins....them folks is deceased

I can admit to starting any given detecting outing in southeast PA where I live, with the hope of seeing silver in the bottom of a deep hole.  It does happen often enough.  It is fairly common to find really old copper coins, but in our wet and clay soil...usually comes out pretty toasty so causes both satisfaction and an aw shucks.  I have a hard time getting excited about searching through pull tabs for shallow jewelry, although most of my nieces and my daughter proudly wear rings, bracelets, necklaces, anklets, and even a toe ring that I gave them.  They will always check out the one display case for any new items in it that might fit them.

I have been focusing my attention more on the travels of Washington's Continental army here, as he crisscrossed Bucks and Montgomery counties.  Finding an army button at a site they were camped at....that would be simply amazing.   

I am currently detecting a property which was a hotel used by the Doan gang repeatedly during the Revolutionary War.  Not expecting to find things signed by them, of course, but some of the old stuff i am finding could have been theirs, who knows.  If you want to read about some bad dudes, google them.  sheesh.

I always keep the silver dimes I find.  The common silver nickels, quarters  and halves get saved up and traded to my coin dealer for gold.  one day, though...maybe.

Happy Hunting

Rod

thanks, i obviously missed that...note to self to not read before coffee

Can anyone identify for me the case in the third picture?  I dig all kinds and sizes of them.

Thanks

I went out to an old farmhouse with ozzie today. Located on a ridge, made for strong wind and a cold cold rain.  A lot of the soil around the house seemed like modern, terribly junk laden fill...pull tabs and broken bolts at 8 inches, etc.

Equinox at 24 sense, disc off, recovery 3.

Down to my last half hour and feeling a bit bummed....finally had a soft soft but repeatable high tone.  Pinpoint could barely get it...low grunts mixed in, but everything was so faint it had to be dug. Dug a full shovel length plug.  Pinpointer was fully in the hole and buzzing in center....Great sign...carefully cut again into the dirt and could see the silver edge...too wide for a dime...

No complaints here!

1 reale, 1801, mexico mint

Happy hunting, all!

12 hours ago, Tom_in_CA said:

haha, great launching point for your post 😆   We have a HARD TIME matching you east coast guys on a date-by-dates basis.  So if I can even TIE any of you, I'll accept that, haha

 

And very few coppers of that era made it out here from the east, or up from Latin America, to Alta CA.  We get VERY few colonial coppers or fractional copper reales here.   We will get busts and early seateds, before we EVER get any LC's or colonial coppers.  The reason is, that since alta CA was at the remotest ends of the earth, in those days, that therefore, when anyone was getting ready to travel here (or send cargo, manufactured goods, etc...) , they had to be conscious of space & weight.  Therefore they tended to reach for a bust half, a gold coin, etc...  Instead of "50 LC's " or "500 LC's", etc....  when getting ready to move their life to the west coast.

yes, well you get all the "S" mint and "CC" mint drops.

Tom,

the soil you hunt in...i am so jealous.  copper gets eaten up in my clay.

I have a copy of the Whitman Encyclopedia of Colonial and Early American Coins.  a bunch of pages on the known varieties of the New Jersey Copper.  I got these pics from an auction site for this particular variety.  It is a Maris 48 - G.  The number is the obverse, and the G is the reverse, each for 1787, and they are the only ones that match the particulars on my coin.  Pretty cool how it works, and identifies the date 100%.

Tom_in_CA, you beat me to 1787 !.  but no matter.  Hunting an old site on lunch break today.  Since the original log cabin was torn down in about 1807, everything here is pretty old, and deep.  I had sens at 24, all metal.  any high tones get mixed with grunts because of the depth...and tons of nails.  got this about halfway through my break.

I got to cross another coin off the bucket list today, rough shape though it is. 

Annyway, here is the New Jersey Copper....although the date isnt readable for sure...it"looks" like two tops of 7s where the date should be, so I'm gonna go with that. 

Wow, Tom.  that 2 Reale is awesome and in better condition than a lot of dug silver as thin as those.

that is an awesome dig!!  might drive to VA just to have you rub my Nox coils.

22 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

That is a great coin! Usually you will find either holes or tooth marks in them 😀 I've never had one ID at anything over 22 with similar settings, yours might be better silver.

I'd like to see a pic of the token you dug.

found the token, or at least i cannot see a difference between it and the lettering on the one i dug.

6 hours ago, Tom_in_CA said:

Wow, based on the description of the site (the modern junk you had to wade through) :  You have a LOT of patience !

No Tom, I do not have patience.  I have to chop things up into very manageable mental sizes....around this tree....around that side of old foundation, etc, or i see large areas and feel the need to detect it all as fast as possible.

49 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said:

Haha... I think I know that breed from my own adventures!  Awesome Silver amongst all the pitfalls you had to navigate Rod! 

So even in that heavy trash, you found the recovery 3 was able to keep up?  Interesting... I usually run recovery 4, but have been thinking about toying with lower recovery numbers based on some comments.  I usually bump up the recovery in high trash... just learning as I go here.  ~Tim.

I do vary the recovery setting sometimes.  When I am looking for deep targets in the trash, I swing really really slow, in the belief/hope/feeling I am reaching deeper, keeping recovery as slow as I can.  I will also switch to pinpoint mode and cast a wider ring around a questionable target to map the targets close to it, getting pictures of size and depth of the area around my target. Helps most when I have a nice one-way, when I can tell there is a large iron off to the opposite side.  Have gotten nice one way items that way.

1 hour ago, F350Platinum said:

That is a great coin! Usually you will find either holes or tooth marks in them 😀 I've never had one ID at anything over 22 with similar settings, yours might be better silver.

I'd like to see a pic of the token you dug.

Here are the pictures so far.  i really don't want to mess with it too much.  The obverse ill call the building.  Above the building, it says Merchant.

on the reverse, i can make out some letters, but no words, yet.  i really have no idea if it is actually very old, with the highly varied sink rates.  copper sure doesnt do well in that soil, though.

I received permission to a new site which was a hotel from the late 1700s to the early 1900s along a main travel route from Philadelphia to Bethlehem.  It is currently split up into a bunch of long term apartments.  Tin and aluminum scraps all over the place from maintenance over the years.  It is located in a swamp with huge boulders.  The sink rate in most areas is crazy..i was digging clad dimes in some places at 10 inches, and square nails and 1800s refuse feet away.  bad attitude dogs of the tenants so far have included a rottweiler, 2 huge bulldogs of some sort, and something that looked like a cross between a black lab and an elephant.  Dodging their refuse, and two attempts at being jumped while working a hole...made things interesting today for sure.

I went under an old hemlock, where the sink rate would be less. got a wheat, then some sort of large token i now have soaking.  I thought it was a large cent at first because it was deep, but no dice there.  

got a nice signal near the token.  a bit broken.  circling it ranged mostly from 27 to 35.  I saw it was silver, and thought i could make out pillars without wiping it.  stuck it in the pocket and rinsed it off when i got home.  Thin silver takes a beating, but can read enough from both sides to know it is a Carolus III, 1786 half reale, Mexico mint.

Equinox was on 50 tone, fe2-0, recovery 3.  I want to say it was at 7 inches or so, give or take.  really hard to tell where in the clod it was.  

I didnt get any Spanish silver last year, so this is a great way to start 2021.

Good luck, all.  HH