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On 3/13/2021 at 4:09 AM, relicmeister said:

I don’t use a shaft counterweight anymore with my 11” coil since trying this: ( and this would work with the 15”)

I have a homemade version of a detector buddy bungee harness. They are meant to attach to the shaft under the pod handle and run around your neck and you put your left arm into it. This actually forces the coil down and in which makes you have to compensate with excess wrist force. So I shortened the strap and have a hook at the elastic end and it grabs a U- loop zip tied to the top of the arm cuff strap. Now the bungee force is directly upward and you get the true weight reduction with a relaxed wrist. The difference was immediately noticeable. With a hook and loop it’s easy to detach the tether even to dig every target if you want. 
   It’s worth a try and if anyone wants pictures of the arrangement let me know and I’ll post them. 

Please do load some pictures if you can.

Cal, my wife would probably trade me for that bottle...she loves collecting Coke stuff.

I use the WM08 with my high quality wired headphones 99% of the time.  If the included bluetooth headphones had a much higher quality sound I would much rather use them to be rid of the wire.  The sound of the included ones is no where clear enough to hear the difference between faint clear tone and faint tone with iron crackles to my ears.

the 1% is on my beach (not in water) hunting during vacation where i dont care about tone quality, just the pitch.

The button on my 800 to pair the wireless devices is so hard to make work...i don't change it to experiment.

another trime...i love how many folks have found these.

pretty safe to say if you are able to pick those out, you work well with that detector, sheesh.

He gives her the Nox and maybe she starts staying out late....coming home with dirty fingernails and all...just keep her with the AT, sir.

just wow...some awesome old coins there !

75% of the silver halves i get from the bags is the 40% type.. depends, normally quantity is somewhere from 2 to a dozen in there.  yes..most are cupro-nickel.

Sorry GB, 

I re-read after your questions...i was pretty lousy on explanation.  Here is clarification.

1. When a customer has their coins rejected, they might try re-running the rejects through, but at whatever point they give up, many take the reject coins to the teller line and have them counted manually and added to the deposit amount.  The Teller puts them in their own cash drawer for the time being.  Some tellers are on the lookout for their own silver collection, some couldnt care less, etc.  Some just leave them separate if asked.  

1a. you mentioned junk like "Bobby pins, paper clips, gum wrappers".  The stuff that I have pulled out of the actual junk bins of them when i open the machines up due to issues or jams...add .45cal rounds, condom in original packaging, stud earring(fake), silver ring.  bizarre

2.  both.  (granted I work for this bank, but the tellers at various branches tell me about the coins they give to customers that have asked them...some for longer than I have been there...over 20 years.  There is a guy named Jack who has a bag sitting with his name on it at one of our branches that started collecting when he was like 10 yrs old.  The tellers always balance out anything they think he would like into that bag and he comes in once a month or so and pays for it..he is like 30 now.  It happens.

Back when i was a bored person before a family, I used to keep track of how many nickels, dimes, quarters, or halves I would get in a bag of non-rejects that had been brought in by customers.  Nickels have been the steadiest...average has been about 5 per bag of 200 nickels.  Quarters and dimes averaged less, 2.5 per bag, although usually $500 per dime or quarter bag means the qty of quarters per number of quarters in the bag is higher.  Halves...75 percent of halves found in bags were the 40% silver, not the 90% of 1964 and prior.

A couple bags really skewed the numbers because someone was getting rid of their silver coins collection so i left them out.  

The counting machines are hard to maintain for accuracy.  Ours get checked quarterly if they haven't had to be maintained for some issue like jamming, etc.  It is not common to find the wrong coins in different denomination bag, but it happens.  Wheats do get kicked out more than the other copper memorials, but I believe it has more to do with the wheats having more variety in their actual weight compared to the more modern copper ones.  I would usually get a couple dozen wheats in a bag of the cents.

Best individual coin out of a Halves bag....1924 3 Mark silver coin..go figure.

I also have quite a collection of proof coins  gotten out of the bags, but I suppose you could get them in rolls also.

hopefully that clarifies things...if not, let me know.

Rod

another note on the bank interactions...

It costs the bank money to send in their coins.  They go to clearing houses, not the Fed.  If you ask, your bank might be willing to sell you the filled bags of coins.  Mine does, and it is WAY higher percentage of finding silver in those bags, than coins you would buy in rolls or boxes from your bank, which have already been run through multiple machines, kicking out most of the silver.  Your best bet is bags of Halves, or nickels to get silver.  Halves are the largest coins on the chute, and are not affected by weight...anything bigger than small dollars goes into the Halves bag...no questions asked, including foreign coins.  Silver dimes and quarters have to be really worn usually to make it through a machine.

Also...Tellers HATE Eisenhower dollars.  Too big to go through the machines, and they have to normally package them up separately to be sent out, so it is a lot of time wasted for them.  Let your normal teller you talk to that you would love anything rejected by the coin machines, and you will even take Eisenhowers.  Great way to get silver and wheats, and your kids/grandkids will love the Eisenhowers.

have one on the way, i appreciate all the feedback.

Steve,

Top large cent looks like matron head, so 1816 to 1839, lower one looks like coronet so 1839 to 57

thanks guys

putting this here, because not sure where it fits best....

I have a huge bag of lousy shape coins I want to clean up...or rather have my kids clean up.  I want to get some sort of tumbler that is sturdy and won't wear out with a lot of use.  Anyone have specific models/brands they like, or models to stay away from?

Thanks.

On 6/1/2020 at 1:16 AM, Jeff McClendon said:

Five Golden Rings in the month of May with the Equinox 600 in Park 2 with no special settings or tweaks. The Nox sounds really nice on gold targets just like other quality detectors and the numbers are very solid. I only wish they could have all been diamonds and 14K. Why am I complaining........they're gold!!!!

Everybody here in the USA stay safe and be careful out there.

Jeff

ok Jeff,

So I grabbed a screwdriver with a skinny shaft, ground the end down so it is nice and round on the point, and went probing last night in a  baseball outfield.  i know, it is steel and not brass..oh well.  even though the shaft is about 9 inches, it was obvious with as thin a shaft as the one i picked, there was no way in this dry dirt I would ever get down to 7 or 8 inches of depth.  Do you use thicker and longer shaft screwdrivers/probes for when it is dry?  how often do you snap them off?

i set the Nox to only 15 as I wasnt going to be digging deep targets anyway.  yes, the 14s with the double beeps i have learned to skip after pulling half a dozen tabs.  grabbed a couple coins, and did get a nice heavy sterling silver pendant, so pretty stoked to my new probing career 🙂 .  there was a distinct difference in EMI chatter between park1 and park2, so left it on park1.

I did dig most of the non-clean targets last night just to get the probing practice...using my index finger on left hand as the fulcrum point isnt going to be a great long term strategy.  I will go watch the videos again to see how others are doing it with a bit more detail now.

i was thinking of taking a heftier screwdriver with a wide blade, and cutting the end out to be a hook.  anyone already try that and have advice?

thanks.

how were the tones on those various items....cleaner on the round ones, or couldnt tell a difference until you dug them up?  Did you get fooled much by iron, and how much junk did you dig to get those?

Thanks.

flat out awesome!  I have yet to get a half older than 1917.  perfect way for you to break into 1800s.

Jeff,

Thanks for your explanation.  gonna go borrow my wife's rings, bury them and get used to the sound

regardless, that is a really nice button!

Just wanted to say I received a complete Steve's Equinox detector rod with the extension tonight.  Couldnt wait so converted to it tonight already.  Quite impressed with build, and fit of the Minelab parts into the holes, etc.  Only bad part was my daughter was not happy i chose not to get the red color.  Oh well.

I half filled the counterweight with the .22 lead fired bullets I have dug.  Plenty more to fill it the rest of the way if needed.  It was the best form of payback I could think of for all those holes dug for what turned out to be lead.

Thanks Steve !!

i am having fun experimenting with Equinox settings, but ever learning the tones, and feeling a bit more confident.  Late 1700s farm house with tons of modern trash gave up the 1901 Barber dime, sterling watch back, and Philadelphia & Reading railroad button.  the rings and Rosie were from a natural spring swimming area.  The 1905 Barber dime i got yesterday from a large field I have been hunting for about 7 years.  Two Barbers within 2 weeks is rare for me....then topped them all off today with this 1853 half dime.  My first one of those, and so nice to fill another slot in my Type book of dug US coins.  been a really sweet year with finding coins.   thanks for looking.  HH

3 hours ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

Congratulations on the Flowing Hair LG Cent.  I've only found one (1798 Cracked Die Reverse) in my 40+ yrs of detecting.  It was found over 20 yrs ago in NC.  Now that you have that one checked off the list, what is your next target coin?

Great dig.

Thanks Gerry,

Bust Silver anything.  only have dug silvers back to Seated.

For coppers, i want a half cent 1700s 

I went with Ozzie this afternoon to a county park near us.  Steep hillside with a boatload of old iron amongst the worst rock-clogged ground.  He warned me, but i should have taken a full blown pick instead of my shovel.  Spent 2 hrs there, working on getting used to the equinox.  He said it has been hunted a lot over quite a few years.  only one really good tone that screamed dig me...length of the carrot deep...1795  liberty cap, le ttered edg  e large cent.  my oldest US Mint coin to date, previously held by a 1797.  Copper just doesnt hold up in our soil, but oh well.  Still way cool.  The edge is supposed to say One Hundred, but although i can tell it is lettering...cant make it out, really.

anyone here have any personal experience using a professional to restore old one-piece stamped buttons?  I have a couple revolutionary war, pre-revolutionary war, and very early 1800s buttons i would like to try to have restored...not having much look so far.

actually, thats a lot of work.  Just take one to a coin show, and toss it when no one is looking into the crowd...see how long it takes to sort that out !