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I have attempted to contact Makro's online Technical Support Unit but keep getting a " 500-Internal Server Error"  and the message fails to transmit. So I just sent Nokta/Makro a PM.  See what happens.

Thanks for the info AU. I sent Makro an email, this MGR is approximately 11 months  old perhaps they have a fix by now. 

Operating the Makro Gold Racer with 5.5x10 coil in All Metal Mode, ground balance 60 to 70; sensitivity 60 to 75; threshold 22; isat 6; tracking 0; low tune: freq shift 3; Sun Ray Pro Gold 150 ohm head phones; fully charged batteries; removed & cleaned coil scuff plate. Ground is wet from recent rain, on level and sloped terrain, no water. When running the scoop over the coil without touching the coil (with the detector on the ground or elevated with coil at angle to ground surface) get a rolling chatter in headset, on two occasions the detector shutoff. With the detector setting on the ground and the coil placed flat on the ground surface the chatter stops. Wrapping my hand around the shaft and coil cable lessens the chatter. Same issue with the stock Makro 35 ohm headset.  When the head phones are unplugged the rolling chatter stops. No other problems with detecting detects boot tacks, lead shot, small lead fragments or small gold. 

What is going on, anyone else had this issue and found the fix?

Mr. H.H.,

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Thank you again for your interest,

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Does bumper dumper offer any optional bucket classifier inserts? 

Steve,

Like it. How about new MD equipment and new detectors posts, do you want to break them out into a separate forum? 

Lemony Snicket ! That sure beats a couple of lumps of coal. For some reason Jolly Old Saint Nick is known to monitor this forum.  We are all sure you meant to  say... decided to treat all my heirs in the spirit of Christmas... Been contemplating putting my non-detectable coal-lump collection from Christmases past up for trade for any advise on how to get oneself off the top of this naughty list?

Meri Christmas from the colonies.

Landmatters has a video tutorial for their Mining Claims Maps. They list the claims by state; with the number of current placer & lodes claims by section. They link diectly to the LR2000 Claims Reports plus provide a county recorder contact. The annual mining assessment date is 1 September of each year but BLM does not update the "open"and "closed" claims status until well into the following year.  To my knowledge patented claims are not listed by BLM but a good topo map, BLM or Forest Service map will indicate the patented claims within their boundaries; the county recorder will have the owner(s) information on file. BLM is also back-logged on current claims so many claims are not staked. 

Here is a 4 –18 khz variable frequency VLF metal detector that may find a niche in the States: the Rutus Alter 71.

Ziggy Jinx Detector Testing (Facebook: Ziggy Jinx Metal Detecting) is currently testing the Rutus Alter 71 in the UK. MD-Hunter also has a write up (Rutus Alter 71 test. New 2016) which includes several non-translated videos. The Alter 71 was apparently released in the autumn of 2016 but apparently is not yet available in the US. I am not familiar with either the Rutus MD’s or of any US dealers. Non-verified & non-translated video(s) indicate the box may include both  11” DD and 9” concentric coils, control box and housing covers and a 6 cell AA battery pack similar to the Garrett AT series. Battery life is approximately 20 to 50 hours depending on the frequency settings; estimated price US $725 plus; the menu appears to allow you to toggle over to English. The battery door upper insert tabs may eventually break off with use.

Ziggy Metal Detecting posted the following on another forum:

The New Rutus Alter 71
[  Website here to show some pictureswww.rutus.com.pl]

…“Some Information here on the Alter 71 I've gathered below.
At the turn of October and November will release a new detector. The name "Alter 71" - from the Latin "other" and the number 71 represents the number of available frequencies.
Alter 71 is probably the world's first metal detector continuously tunable as a function of frequency. The detector is tunable from 4.4 kHz to 18.4 kHz increments of 0.2 kHz - without the need to replace the probe. I know of no current market detector is not possible. The detector is equipped with a radio transmitter digital data allowing such cooperation. With handsets or "wireless headphone jack." Digital transmission has been specially designed for this purpose - does not introduce any delays. 6 hours of battery life "toes" depends on the frequency and ranges from 20 to 50 hours. The detector has the ability to work in a static mode, dynamic or so. mix - the dynamics of the "mixa" can go smoothly depending on the needs.
Graphic display, ID - 120 points, discrimination classical and selective, chart depending on the phase of the signal, automatically tuning to the ground speed control filters ground in a very wide range, the possibility of programming your own sounds, ranges, speed, separation and many other features make the it is a detector at the world level.
The detector has a completely new mechanical design and is lighter than our existing detectors over 200 g.
For the detector probe will be available both DD and concentric.

Regulatory elements:
Discrimination
tenderness
Dyskrymincja selective 120 points
Operating frequency of 4.4 kHz to 18.4 kHz jump 0.2
magnetic stones
Response filters (groundwater) - 8 speeds to choose from
Masking 7 levels
The signal level leading
Ton leading signal
Sensitivity leading signal - regulation allowing for a smooth transition from pure dynamic work to "mix-a"
Strengthening Audio - regulation allows to change the sound characteristics of a dynamic channel and switch it off completely (we obtain in this way the work of a purely static)
Volume
Tony - three sound profiles to search for coins, three to "relics, and three freely programmable by the user
Wireless nature - off, Channel 1, Channel 2
Backlight - 29 adjustable levels
Type of ID - true (depending on frequency), converted to 6kHz, converted to 12 kHz
Hold time - adjustable display time information about an object on the LCD.
Detector has 7 default programs: a deep, deep, large silver, basic, coins, fast, very fast. Factory programs offer a fairly wide cross-section of the possibility of the detector in search of various objects in different conditions. Each factory program can be modified to suit your needs - and the changes are saved when the power is turned off. In case the modifications do not meet user expectations - it is possible to reset each program to factory settings.”

The Alter 71 target may be only coin and relic hunting. Provided the MD does not demonstrate a frequency preference, the higher frequencies up to 18.4khz puts this MD tin he small nugget range on ground within the VLF limits.  Perhaps this will excite future development of a variable frequency MD with fixed steps with a 3kHz to 48khz range.

Shelton recently posted that he is also testing the Rutus Alter 71 and provided the following link: http://www.rutus.com.pl/page/19/alter-71.  Hopefully, he will provide future updates on his testing & review.

For now I'm hanging on to the MLX705; other than wait and see; any thoughts on variable frequency VLF MD’s for coin, relics and nuggets?

Chris, Rob,

Your advise is slowly sinking in.  It doesn't hurt to have an over view in your head of the major fault systems in a region. I remember looking out into a basin one evening from what I took as a pediment.  If there was an epithermal deposit under all that sediment I did not have the means to reach it. Nor reach any deposits directly beneath. My frame of reference filtered what I was observing. My limited experience is of gold moving via liquification throught loosen gravel downward towards bedrock or hard pan.  Until I get the book in my hands I am assuming differing rainfall amounts and perhaps tighter soils in both Arizona and Nevada change both gold's the downward path and surface distribution. No doubt l'll step up in metal detectors & training once I get a handle. I'll take view of some of your videos. Thanks for the info.

Enjoy your trip, keep us posted. 

VA,

Put another log on the fire, not so cold but wet. You might want to give this website a look http://www.americanminingrights.com. They have several videos on the site along with five claims in Arizona. EndRun in Stanton GPS 34.162822, -112.723410 or Saquatch1 GPS 34.561309, -113.350902 might be to your liking.  

Grandma's family is from Grunty County; 4th Tennessee then out to Erath, Texas in 1870 then up into the territories anticipating Oklahoma would some day need a name for college football team. Blown westward in the 30's, still waiting for the winds to die down.  Been up to Plumas & Sierra  County a few times prospecting.  You make it out this way get in touch; more than willing to demonstrate how to avoid the gold in these brush covered hills.   Take care cuz

Tboykin & Geotech,

Over on the "Impact of the New Nokta Three Frequency" post, the Turks are putting on a feed for your "market shares". Gossip is the door prize is an proto-type varible frequency MD with a bunch coils in the 3 to 56 Khz range.

On 12/4/2016 at 8:39 AM, vanursepaul said:

More "cold gold" adventures NOW over in the Nevada high desert!

 

A note about Macro's customer service that we have become accustomed to hearing.

Problem: MGRacer has an intermittent issue. Sometimes the coil is working, others times not. Merton and I checked it out against his and decided it was the control box...coils were fine.

One little thing is the jam nut ..the inner plastic tab has a tendency you snap off. It is on the inside and small, so if you have old man eyes like me it is hard to spot. Merton showed me where it was.

Fix: Wrote Dilek an email.... That email was answered almost immediately.

Then I got another from a tech backing her letter up with instructions on his to proceed... 

Outcome: Pleased

PS I really like the big 15x13 coil !!!!

Back to the desert today to play...

VA,

"Weather Report" from over here on the orange belt of the Sierra Nevada west slope. Up from the mid 20's to high 40's today with rain, snow on the way. My shower this morning was a little to hot for my liking. Apparently, I should have read through this post earlier. I have a used dealer Makro Gold Racer still under warranty due in Saturday. Plan to used it to scrub some stock piles I don't care to haul off site for motorized processing. Don't expect anything above grain. I have the big stuff in my poke next the gold coins.  Folks sure are tight lipped when it comes to Northern Nevada gold detecting, making me take the long way around. Sorry don't know anything regarding MD Arizona other than it's supposed be warm. The little woman has family in Melbourne and Broken Hill. Unfortunately, they have already meet me. Need to go wrap the oranges, know where I get my hand some some extra foil, preferably gold in color? The accent that Quincy, Ca or Quincy, OK, sounds to soft for Texas. When operating, how's the MG Racer working for you?

Semper fi doc

Smitty says "hey "and thanks you fer detectin' that metal in his buttock.

I just asked an uninformed question over on the "Impact of the New Nokta Three Frequency" post. 

As opposed to a multi-frequency metal detector, has there ever then a varible frequency MD with the varible adjustment on the control box?

As oppose to a multi-frequency MD, has there ever been anything regarding a "varible frequency" MD with the varible adjustment on the control box ? hey I'm new, I resent that thought.

I'm one those read...see...do folks. After reading goldbrick's post in the research section "1893 Pocket Hunting Treatise" and in Jim Straight's book Advanced Prospecting & Detecting a description of "supergene enrichment of sulphide deposit" I see a common process. I have seen pockets on this side of the mountains. Personally what I am looking for are local eyes on in Nevada.  I realize this is a detecting prospecting forum but the detector to me is just another tool. I am a late blooming prospector with no desire to become a miner beyond the limits of my prospects. My better half is withholding Chris's book until Xmas. I' ll do my homework over the winter then make the decision on whether to spend my money on gas or consultation. I agree gold is where you find it but now days that usually is where someone else hasn't. Most of us are searching for something more than gold but a way of life that we refuse to acknowledge may be gone so we dig deeper. 

Cobill,

 Thanks for the link... great.

4 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

I found my largest nugget with the TDI and 12" coil in brush so thick I could barely force myself through it. If your machine is giving false signals from being lifted or tilted the machine is either not properly ground balanced, or the coil may be bad.

Steve,

There's an abandoned claim nearby with the same ground conditions only level with broken contours. I test the TDI 12" coil there to see if it is lifting/tilting, the ground dropping away from under the coil or operator error. 

The recent post on "Lode Claims" discuss a interesting and important subject on involving lode & placer mining claims and access. Beside the good information it demonstrates just how serious miners are about their claims holdings.  So make sure you get "express written permission" from the mining claim owner(s) before entering onto their claims to prospect and/or detect.

A word of advice leave your pets and firearms at home and take your trash out with you.  If you agree to share a portion of your finds with the owner(s) keep your word.  Don't close the door for the next person.

So how do you contact a claim owner(s) to get permission to prospect/detect on a open active mining claim. There are several members far more update on these BLM websites than me and will fill in most of my mistakes and omissions. This should at least get us headed down the road.

Using Foxfire as the browser ( these websites are not user friendly so use the BLM Tutorial and type in information exactly as indicated per the LR2000 samples; use all Caps.

For overall claim filing information and location description (lode & placer); Booklet

http://www.BLM.gov

On the left margin click on "What we do" then hit "more"; scroll down to the following two topics: Mining and Mineral; Mining Claims and Sites on Federal Lands.

https://navigator.blm.gov/home

Click on the "Inactive map" located in the upper center of the page; you will see a tool bar along the top of the map for zooming in & out and panning.

On the right margin click the "PLSS" button for bring up meridian, township, range, section grid on the inactive map; click on the +zoom in then click on the ma to move to the area (state) you want; write down the "median, township, range and section" numbers.

http://www.BLM.gov/lr2000

Located on the left margin click through  and read  “Tutorial”, “Help Guides”, “Reference Codes”

Click on “Run Reports”.  Scroll down to “Public Mining Claims Reports”

Click on “Pub MC Geo Index”

Click the “Meridian Township Range Section *” and ” County” buttons;

Click “Select Criteria” at the bottom 

The “Mandatory Criteria” window will pop up.

Click on the “Set” button for each criteria then the “Close” after selecting or entering the information requested.

“Admin State” select a state from the scroll down window; Close

In “Case Disposition” select “Active”; Close

The “Meridian Town Range Section” (MTRS) window has a MTRS Format sample located on the upper left; use all Caps; enter the information in the box just below “Clear Above Valves” then hit the check button. You can run more the MTRS at a time; click the “Select All” button; Close

“County” select a county from the scroll down window; Close

click “Run Report”

Confirm your selections then click” OK”

The report will include claim names, number, location by MTRS down to the NW, NE, SW, SE corner of the section per page# 10 of the BLM booklet “Mining Claims & Site on Federal Lands”.

Clicking a  “claim number” of any individual claims will bring the claim document; the claim owner(s) are listed by name, address and zip code; including the claim size in acres.

The county “Recorders Office” of the county where the claim is located will have copy on file of the claim owner(s), address, claim size, type, and specific location in the section (booklet page#10 sample: 20 acre Placer Claim E 1/2 NE 1/4 NE 1/4 per section, township, range, meridian.)

or you can just join a prospecting and/or detecting club in your area of interest.

Good Luck

Will do...thanks

Chris,

 I assume this would also applied to tertiary stream deposits. A discovery on  a placer claim cannot be used to confirm a tertiary lode deposit even though both deposit were originally placer. In such a case can a lode claim be filed within the boundary of a valid placer claim?

I agree with AU, the TDI Sl is light and easy to swing. For me the "S" shape handles weight distribution just fine. I like the concept of the dual field coil. The problem I have with the 12" DF is not the coil but the steep brushy terrain. It is too large to maneuver in thick brush without lifting and tilting the coil resulting false signals. I would like to hear comments from member who have experience using the 12" dual field coil.